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  • motla68
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 752

    #46
    Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
    There you go yes, the election! This is all good stuff I will probably put this in the Coresource Library. Where did you get it from?

    This video last words spoken sort of helps me understand why Onlashuk had interpreted our camps as I called it to that of sanctuary.
    Last edited by motla68; 04-02-11, 05:13 PM.
    "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
    be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

    ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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    • Anthony Joseph

      #47
      Originally posted by Frederick Burrell View Post
      Wow, long read. I have no problem paying property taxes, supporting the local infrastructure.

      What I object to is the confiscation of your property for not paying do to financial inability.

      In Thailand their is no property tax, only a one time tax when transferring the title, and they would seem to have a working police, fire and rescue system.

      As far as not paying land taxes that is not a problem. Rent to a church non-profit. Of course the church is one you started. I have not used this on my own home and property, and I have not objected to the small amount of taxes I was asked to pay. But I did own a commercial building that I purchased for the use of the church, my church. I did not claim the whole commercial building as being used by the church only about 30%. Yes someone from the tax department did come out and survey the situation.

      As a church you can provide a home for the ministers etc. The land on which the minister resides can be paid for by the church and the owner of the land gets a tax reduction based on the percentage used. All nice and legal, lawful. It costs about $50 to start a church in Hawaii. I had the same church in Oregon before I moved to Hawaii. Just an approach some my find useful.
      The way the system is set up, there is no way around it if you respond the way they lead you or if you ignore them entirely. The "other" available option is never revealed for obvious reasons. Like a traffic citation; there are three options offered by the way they lead you respond. The "other" option is not disclosed... R4C; even though it IS available for those that choose to employ the method honorably and competently.

      That is why I suggest that the provided and available coupon attached to the "tax bill" be sent back with instructions for them to settle their own account utilizing that valid instrument which they provided, and are BOUND to accept, according to the law they operate from and are under. Seems to be as simple an "option" as R4C'ing a Traffic Citiation; utilize whatever instrument, tool or mechanism available in order to assist them in settling their account internally and to keep the peace. Their is NO disruption or challenge of the "system" on our part other than our justly and rightfully declared immunity from it and superiority over it. Any disruption of the peace or initiated "action" will be by them from a position of dishonor if they fail to, or refuse to, recoginize the character and standing of the man or woman who exercises his/her inherent and Divine right of avoidance from being "ruled" or re-venued by men and/or their creations.

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      • Frederick Burrell
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 238

        #48
        So your taking the 4 corner method and applying it to taxes. Sounds like to me. fB

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        • Anthony Joseph

          #49
          Originally posted by Frederick Burrell View Post
          So your taking the 4 corner method and applying it to taxes. Sounds like to me. fB
          I may be dense... but what is the "4 corner" method?

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          • motla68
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 752

            #50
            The 4 corner method has it's pros and cons, this comes from Batman's field of play. Since the court of the dead cannot hear voice from spirit, can only hear the paper I am not totally convinced this is solid and practical myself.
            "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
            be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

            ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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            • Frederick Burrell
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 238

              #51
              It is basically as you have pointed allowing them to settle the matter honorable. You have provided the instruments. Now get out of way and let them do their job.

              4 corners is basically for court appearance

              I am here about the matter (peace full inhabitant
              there has been a mistake (my mistake, like trespass on the NAME)
              there was no proper notification (meeting of the minds)
              I want to settle this honorably (its basically their paper work, trust etc.) Let them do what they need to do to settle the matter honorably,

              I think some where in this forum David had an outline of it as a attachment.

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              • Anthony Joseph

                #52
                Originally posted by Frederick Burrell View Post
                It is basically as you have pointed allowing them to settle the matter honorable. You have provided the instruments. Now get out of way and let them do their job.

                4 corners is basically for court appearance

                I am here about the matter (peace full inhabitant
                there has been a mistake (my mistake, like trespass on the NAME)
                there was no proper notification (meeting of the minds)
                I want to settle this honorably (its basically their paper work, trust etc.) Let them do what they need to do to settle the matter honorably,

                I think some where in this forum David had an outline of it as a attachment.
                I never heard of that being described as the "4 corners" method. If it is deemed by me to be necessary and prudent (depends on their actions), I will be present at any court hearing regarding this matter in the capacity of special visitation only. They may utilize, for their benefit only, the "Rule E(8) appearance" as their recognizable law in order to define my presence there. I will be sure to present any unprovided materials (certified copies of R4Cs) required of the accusing party in order to stay in honor to the judge.

                I will also suggest, if necessary, that they settle their own account internally since they are absent a willing volunteer to take on that burden for them.

                I will be there for the sole purpose of preventing fraud upon the court and to assist them, as a peaceable friend, in settling their cause and account honorably.

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                • Frederick Burrell
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 238

                  #53
                  It would seem to be part of the coresource info. including the paper work in light blue paper presented to the courts upon making an appearance. It would seem however there is a split occuring in ranks of that movement. To many chiefs I would suppose. oh well. fB

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                  • Frederick Burrell
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 238

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Anthony Joseph View Post
                    I never heard of that being described as the "4 corners" method. If it is deemed by me to be necessary and prudent (depends on their actions), I will be present at any court hearing regarding this matter in the capacity of special visitation only. They may utilize, for their benefit only, the "Rule E(8) appearance" as their recognizable law in order to define my presence there. I will be sure to present any unprovided materials (certified copies of R4Cs) required of the accusing party in order to stay in honor to the judge.

                    I will also suggest, if necessary, that they settle their own account internally since they are absent a willing volunteer to take on that burden for them.

                    I will be there for the sole purpose of preventing fraud upon the court and to assist them, as a peaceable friend, in settling their cause and account honorably.
                    Yep you got it. Thats the one. Seems you know it well and it might work for taxes. Let me know how it works for you. You seem to have added a few twists and turns to it though. fB
                    Last edited by Frederick Burrell; 04-02-11, 06:07 PM.

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                    • motla68
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 752

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Frederick Burrell View Post
                      It is basically as you have pointed allowing them to settle the matter honorable. You have provided the instruments. Now get out of way and let them do their job.

                      4 corners is basically for court appearance

                      I am here about the matter (peace full inhabitant
                      there has been a mistake (my mistake, like trespass on the NAME)
                      there was no proper notification (meeting of the minds)
                      I want to settle this honorably (its basically their paper work, trust etc.) Let them do what they need to do to settle the matter honorably,

                      I think some where in this forum David had an outline of it as a attachment.
                      I had basically did the same thing on the second most recent ticket, accept this was done on a notepad and note given to asst. DA, no different then a sticky note reminder.

                      " special appearance " as Envoy.
                      "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
                      be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

                      ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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                      • Frederick Burrell
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 238

                        #56
                        I will have to check my notes. Somewhere I believe I have the info that you write on the paper work to give to the courts wrapped in light blue paper. its been a while but I can find it again. fB

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                        • Frederick Burrell
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 238

                          #57
                          TalkShoe - Call - Coresource Solution - Look in the mirror - Mar 27
                          We start you out with some basics then you can look into how to handle yourself in court, check out Batman's Talkshoe:

                          Looks like someone else is teaching four corners and Coresource solution. hmmmmm

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                          • motla68
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 752

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Frederick Burrell View Post
                            I will have to check my notes. Somewhere I believe I have the info that you write on the paper work to give to the courts wrapped in light blue paper. its been a while but I can find it again. fB
                            Yes, that too as well. The wrapped blue paper is in the private, but the note from the notepad that is in the public in which I act in the capacity of Envoy.
                            "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
                            be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

                            ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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                            • motla68
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 752

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Frederick Burrell View Post
                              TalkShoe - Call - Coresource Solution - Look in the mirror - Mar 27
                              We start you out with some basics then you can look into how to handle yourself in court, check out Batman's Talkshoe:

                              Looks like someone else is teaching four corners and Coresource solution. hmmmmm
                              What is the episode # and year on that post?
                              Through this project I have put myself in various positions to show others in our local group here that a mistake can be corrected at any time. We take little tid bits of information from many resources, we never follow any one particular gurus process other then our own completely. The finding of making election has only been a topic of interest in the past month and it was just in the past couple weeks that anybody actually did anything with the authentication received.
                              "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
                              be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

                              ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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                              • Treefarmer
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 473

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Michael Joseph View Post
                                Property Taxes are paid by the Registered Owner by and thru an a priori agreement.

                                Again what is Property? Property is Right of Use. The Registered Owner has the Right of Use via Agreement. The Trustee has the management of the Right of Use. And the tax is collected on the RIGHT OF USE.

                                Something tells me if I look at a Deed of Trust I am going to find an agreement within that says the Borrower agrees to pay the Property Taxes.....let me see if I can find one now....

                                [ATTACH=CONFIG]151[/ATTACH]

                                Well now, look at that. It is indeed found within a pre-existing agreement. Wherein that agreement has made known a new term BORROWER and the BORROWER is exactly the same as LEGAL M. NAME or cestui que trust.

                                And i will wager that the Grantor is lawfully siezed of the estate - therefore the Property never leaves the State. Starting to see why SR#62 is not required to be Public Law?

                                For those playing catchup at Heinz field, Property is Right of Use. The Deed incorporated by reference a Survey and the Survey is Recorded on a Plat and the Plat is located on a Book of Maps and the Book of Maps is Registered at a book and page WITHIN a Trust Asset Registry known as Register of Deeds or County Clerk and Recorder.

                                And that agreement does not say the Borrower will repay in Pesos. It says the Borrower will repay with the money of the STATE.

                                The State is concerned with their Property. So now I ask, what again is Property. If you have not seen it yet. Go to the Top and read again.

                                But read this first


                                Plus something tells me the agreement is Probated - Dead Hand - irrevocable Trust Agreement. The Grant cannot be undone.

                                [ATTACH=CONFIG]152[/ATTACH]


                                One thing to consider is what Registry will the Property - and the Agreements that govern the Property - be Registered? Under who's Law Form?
                                This may be a dumb question, but it's been on my mind for a while now:
                                Why is title split up into legal and equitable?

                                You said in your other above referenced post (But read this first) "The Legal Title manages the Rights of Use or manages the Property. And the Equitable Title Uses the Right of Use or Uses the Property. "

                                Why can a man or woman not hold both legal and equitable title?
                                Seems like they go together; or should anyways. Isn't that the essence of true ownership?

                                When did title first get split up into legal and equitable?

                                It seems to me that allodial ownership (without taxation at gunpoint on pain of dispossession) cannot exist until legal and equitable title are united into one, under the control of the owner who is also the manager and the user of the property.
                                Treefarmer

                                There is power in the blood of Jesus

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