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  • allodial
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    • May 2011
    • 2866

    #1

    Important Answers About Ownership of Federal Land

    Ownership of Federal Land: Answers Suggested by the Bundy Standoff
    Tenth Amendment Center
    {The limitations the Federal Government has within the several states might be quite different in its territories or it might be just as well restricted there. The distinction is very important to note.}{NOTE: Yosemite National Park was established AFTER the Civil War in 1890. Yosemite Valley and osemite Valley and Mariposa Grove went to California under California state law. The powers exercised by United States Government were likely with respect to territorial government.}is subject to state law. Contrary to current Supreme Court doctrine, when the federal government owns non-enclave land, the federal government usually should be treated like any other landowner, so long as the state respects the discharge of legitimate federal functions.

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  • shikamaru
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    • Mar 2011
    • 1630

    #2
    Originally, claims to land were ceded to the government of the United States by the several States (13 colonies).

    Also, government of the United States was formed, in part, to assume the war debts of the 13 colonies.

    The land and claims ceded, supposedly, were held in trust of "The People".

    The tyranny of corporations becomes more apparent with each passing day.
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    • allodial
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      • May 2011
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      #3
      Originally posted by shikamaru View Post
      Originally, claims to land were ceded to the government of the United States by the several States (13 colonies).

      Also, government of the United States was formed, in part, to assume the war debts of the 13 colonies.

      The land and claims ceded, supposedly, were held in trust of "The People".

      The tyranny of corporations becomes more apparent with each passing day.
      They ceded their territories to the confederacy specifically named "The United States of America" ("The" does not operate as 'the' in that context--"The" is part of the name). The Northwest Ordinance and the related series of laws between 1785 and 1788 or so were rules for handling the territories. The non-imperial nature of The United states of America (i.e. the singular confederacy) and of the United states of America (i.e. the several states) seems to be apparent in that all territories were to become states rather than remain territories or possessions. Such may have changed with time and it seems mainly with the Civil War and the assassination of William McKinley (which some suggest to have been a coup). The French ceded the Sovereignty and Domain of Louisiana over to the United States with certain stipulations. In any case, the U.S. government like any trustee would be in breech of trust if it failed to adhere to the implicit or express terms of the trust agreement. In the case of large size of Federal land holdings out West, it might have something to do with the fact those States were formed after the Civil War. If the U.S. was operating only in its "Article I" or "Article II" capacity or capacities only after 1862 perhaps it could only offer limited services after that point like a food shop with certain equipment inoperable?

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      Relevance of the Royal Proclamation of 1763 to U.S.A. land history.

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      Relevance of Treaty of Cession of 1803 (i.e. Lousiana Purchase) to the U.S.A. land history.


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      Under the Treaty of 1818, this would be a joint British-American area for at least 10 years.

      The Treaty of 1818 set the boundary between the United States and British North America along the 49th parallel of north latitude from Minnesota to the "Stony Mountains"[2] (now known as the Rocky Mountains). West of those mountains was known to the Americans as the Oregon Country and to the British as the Columbia Department or Columbia District of the Hudson's Bay Company. (Also included in the region was the southern portion of another fur district, New Caledonia.) The treaty provided for joint control of that land for ten years. Both countries could claim land and both were guaranteed free navigation throughout. Source: Wikipedia
      Consider land in Alaska as a case in point. Washington and Oregon were part of an area that was a "joint" between the UK or Great Britain and the United States. California (i.e. Alta California or Upper California or even Nueva California) itself was a territory of Mexico at some point before it became under the United States. Maybe the Government of the United States (i.e. the Executive) was able to rename Mt. McKinley because of this.

      Keep in mind that the BLM was formed in 1946.

      Related:
      Our Hidden History of Corporations In the United States
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      "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
      "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
      Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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      • Michael Joseph
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        • Mar 2011
        • 1596

        #4
        When one looks carefully at the notes in circulation we see in uppercase letters THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. And if one looks even more carefully one will see that Public Trustees have signed the notes.

        Treasurer of the United States and Secretary of the Treasury

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        • David Merrill
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          • Mar 2011
          • 5949

          #5
          Also, the Approbation to the Declaration of Independence might help explain my heritage as Patroon. And I am not saying that I am special. - Just that by having the genome I seem to have become aware of this earlier than some of the people around me.


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          • David Merrill
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            • Mar 2011
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            #6
            So who owns the federal land? I do. I created it.
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            • allodial
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              • May 2011
              • 2866

              #7
              Originally posted by David Merrill
              This should shed some light - the US Government is like a church; as in 501(C)(3) as the tax-exempt status is simply that one pays taxes to the government, in the name of the denomination, usually Christianity (Paul's dual citizenship with Rome). This is why tithing to the government through Paul's Roman church (read Pragmatism) can be deducted from income taxes.
              You mean, the United States, Washington, D.C. District of Columbia Act of 1871 is a builder's society, a fraternal society (church), an 'incorporated society' or a homeowner's association for those who want to live under the law of the sea (on the Potomac) and in that think, flaky, territorial 'alternate reality' outside of the several states of America?
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              "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
              "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
              Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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              • David Merrill
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                • Mar 2011
                • 5949

                #8
                Originally posted by allodial View Post
                You mean, the United States, Washington, D.C. District of Columbia Act of 1871 is a builder's society, a fraternal society (church), an 'incorporated society' or a homeowner's association for those who want to live under the law of the sea (on the Potomac) and in that think, flaky, territorial 'alternate reality' outside of the several states of America?


                Something like that...



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                The proceedings went from St. John's Lodge to St. Paul's Cathedral. This definitely smacks of religion in formation. You might find some interesting tidbits in the 1871 municipal actions.

                Better than a zip file - Municipal Act of 1871 in .pdf.
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                • allodial
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                  • May 2011
                  • 2866

                  #9
                  So Paul has two identities - Roman/Benjamite Jew subject to the government and owing God; and Paul the Son of God with Jesus co-creating... Life or Debt, choose?
                  Because Paul confessed to being a Roman citizen and was a Judean, Israelite (house of Benjamin--sons of the right hand) member of the Christ's lawful assembly? Makes sense.

                  Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                  The proceedings went from St. John's Lodge to St. Paul's Cathedral. This definitely smacks of religion in formation.
                  Likely something to do with Scottish Rite Freemasonry ala Albert Pike whose writings reveal him to have been a Roman Catholic yielded to the Bishop of Rome. In order for that kind of liege to cross the sea, Admiralty is required thus the formed their HOA in a city "on the Potomac".

                  Originally posted by David Merrill
                  State's interest is $0, in fact No land is associated with this parcel. That is interesting because in I Chronicles chapter 6 we find that the Levite priests have no territorial claim. Their claim is METRO organization; or the cities and their suburbs. ... So let's go one more parcel north showing this parcel is surrounded on three sides by San Isabel National Forest. ... And so let's view the state's interest in the national forest land too: ... And so there you have it. No land is associated with the National Forest.....
                  No land, because they are on {in rather than upon} the Potomac...in admiralty...underwater cities?

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                  Have we finally found New Atlantis?
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                  "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                  "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                  Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                  • David Merrill
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                    • Mar 2011
                    • 5949

                    #10
                    Nice Find; whatever it is... Atlantis? Might that be COLUMBIAN CODE?


                    I organized the pages into a .pdf - Municipal Code of 1871. You deserve it. You have really shared some amazing insight around here over the years!
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                    • David Merrill
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                      • Mar 2011
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                      #11
                      P.S. What might be more interesting yet is that this seems law/God in action rather than the whims of men, regardless of how organized they be.

                      I heard something weird; - That viewing the Nile Delta as a cerebral cortex one can find a very convincing image of human anatomy. But if you try looking at where the pineal gland is located, that part of the geography is blocked from the general public to view it?
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                      • allodial
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                        • May 2011
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                        Might that be COLUMBIAN CODE?
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                        I've long wanted to post a youtube link to a scene in the Percy (Perseus son of Poseidon, "god of the sea") Jackson movie series. There is a scene in the second movie where the people associated with the ancient times of Zeus are traveling and happen upon the U.S. Capitol Building and Washington, D.C. and make an immediate connection with....

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                        (KA/HA/C)OLYMP(B)US(IA)--Olympus. What a "coincidence" that the capital of Washington state is OLYMPIA. Ultimately Olympus, in the movie, is on the 600th floor of the Empire State Building on Manhattan Island (Dutch-Lenape land). I read "Columbia" (ha'Olympia) as code for "Olympus" or "Olympia" as in "Behold ('ha'), Olympia". Interestingly enough, the 600th floor would definitely be above the high tide mark, wouldn't it?

                        Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                        I organized the pages into a .pdf - Municipal Code of 1871. You deserve it. You have really shared some amazing insight around here over the years!
                        Thank you.

                        Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                        P.S. What might be more interesting yet is that this seems law/God in action rather than the whims of men, regardless of how organized they be.
                        "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." Matthew 28:18.


                        Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                        I heard something weird; - That viewing the Nile Delta as a cerebral cortex one can find a very convincing image of human anatomy. But if you try looking at where the pineal gland is located, that part of the geography is blocked from the general public to view it?
                        Goro Adachi's Time Rivers might be even weirder. However, you might find interest in The Temple In Man by R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz .

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                        (Note should read The Temple In Man... "of" is Orwellian "time travel" revision.)

                        Related:

                        Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters (Chapter 8 starts with the DC scene)
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                        "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                        "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                        Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                        • Michael Joseph
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                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1596

                          #13
                          Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                          P.S. What might be more interesting yet is that this seems law/God in action rather than the whims of men, regardless of how organized they be.

                          I heard something weird; - That viewing the Nile Delta as a cerebral cortex one can find a very convincing image of human anatomy. But if you try looking at where the pineal gland is located, that part of the geography is blocked from the general public to view it?
                          Danny Wilten has done some fantastic work on this very subject. One such work - Click Here

                          I love the left brain mathematics/geometry. Especially the use of Metatron's Cube and the correlations to Egypt and Orion. Many refuse to look up even though their Holy Book tells them to do so.

                          This ties nicely into the Cave of Luz - as well.
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                          • David Merrill
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                            • Mar 2011
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                            #14
                            Thank you MJ;


                            That would be reference to a book by David Joel BAKST. Rabbi Joel correlates DMT with the Bible parable rather well.
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                            • Michael Joseph
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                              Thank you MJ;


                              That would be reference to a book by David Joel BAKST. Rabbi Joel correlates DMT with the Bible parable rather well.
                              More good stuff
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