Deposit Your Pledge Into a Bank and Freely Elect to be Bankrupt and Insolvent

[Anthony Joseph]

FB , listen to what you are typing here.. please.

You have 83 posts I am seeing right now and this will make 189 for me and you say I am not giving background information? take the blinders off, what have you done here to add to anything worth using yourself? Both you and Anthony have done nothing but bash other people because of what you do not have, well what have you given?

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

You have to find truth for yourself, I cannot give it to you.
If you have no difficulties in your life then why are you here? If your not going to produce anything then at least stop bickering about what you have not been given.

We here simply expect those who offer what is presented as a reproducible "method" or "way" of success, when dealing with the STATE in any of its forms, to provide the documentation and be forthright with full disclosure about what process they used and deem as "successful" with supporting law and history to show why. This is the model we are used to and I think it is reasonable.

David Merrill has been frustrated with you of late regarding the same idea of providing documentation and yet it is only Frederick and I who are "bashing" you? Is that how you define bashing; being diligent regarding our request for doucmentation when someone touts a specific "method" or "way" which is claimed as successful and reproducible?

We have high expectations and standards when someone purposely, openly and overtly touts a successful method or process. You initiated these expectations and standards by your willful expression of your "CoreSource" method or way as a successful "solution".

If you wish to consider it "bashing", that is your choice.

P.S. In case you missed my thread regarding a "DRIVER NOT BELTED" presentment which I refused for cause and plan to document fully on this site... here it is:

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?146-DL-was-NOT-provided-or-used-as-ID

[motla68]

I have heard echo from a couple people who do not believe in Private Law, but we do it all the time, but break it as well. Someone shares with you an amicable agreement in private, now that is law, somehow in your dealing with each other you cannot not agree on a particular thing so you bring it to a third party, you could have chose one man in confidence as a mediator in private, BUT you bring it into a Public Court instead. When private matters are brought into the public it is telling the court that you are not competent enough to settle this in private so now you are here and have to deal with our rules of how this will turnout.

I always insist on handling things in the private first and I let them (the DA and court know it), before coming down to meet the appointment of summons I announce my visit and for what purpose I am there by notice through the mail, then when I arrive it is just then a simple matter of doing what I said i was going to do in asking them to settle honorably " in private " before it is brought into public where they could be exposed to public scrutiny as well as i. If you really operate as a peaceful inhabitant and have this intent, things go much more smoothly.
So none of this has to do with public court room rules or procedures, it is a private amicable
agreement settled in private for some ticket a dumb ass cop made a public matter to put it bluntly.

PRIVATE. Not general, as a private act of the legislature; not in office;
as, a private person, as well as an officer, may arrest a felon; individual,
as your private interest; not public, as a private way, a private nuisance.
- 1856 Bouviers Dictionary

I cannot show you what i had wrapped in that paper, but I can tell you about it again.

- Robin-egg blue paper, wrapped 4 fold.

- Inside what was wrapped:

1. printout from online showing the certified mail previously delivered by notice of my visit and purpose for me being there.

2. copy of presentment (ticket) that had CS language written upon it that was sent in with the notice by certified mail.

3. copy of instrument printed out from the DMV that the vehicle was registered with the state.
( nothing i wrote on it)

4. copy of Birth Certificate

- All 4 sheets were stapled together.

The CS language written on the presentment is mentioned several times in the audio files on our talkshoe group, go there to hear "why" you would put this on the presentment.

Does this help any at all? If not then I guess we are done.

[motla68]

P.S. In case you missed my thread regarding a "DRIVER NOT BELTED" presentment which I refused for cause and plan to document fully on this site... here it is:

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showt...-or-used-as-ID

Anthony, in your own words of expectation you have shown me nothing here, anybody can put a presentment up with some written language on it, you have not provided any recording, you have not shown that any of this actually worked and settled the matter. You have only shown your typed words as I have done, but yet you expect more out of me. Yes, I first said success but then took it out of that category and corrected the mistake, yet you still hold it over my head because some freaken EGO you got about what originally happened, get over it. I know I have said this before.

We have butted heads in other forums before, i am tired of going through the same dance with you so it is probably best that you do not comment on my posts and I will not comment on yours.

[Frederick Burrell]

Molta

I guess we are done if that is your response to my above post. Did you read it. You made no mention of reading it. So I will await your affirmation that you have read and choose not to reply. If you don not reply within a reasonable time I will assume you choose not to respond and we are finished. fB

[motla68]

Molta

I think you are doing your best to share the information you think everyone should follow for altruistic motives. You presume to much though. You assume from the way you address people that you have all the answers and we are just dumb stumble bums. I had listened to Batman 6 month before meeting you. I like most of what he had to say, I say most. I never had to chance to question him. I did have the chance to ask you some questions all of which you side stepped in my opinion. Specifically I asked about the back ground info on what you perceived the presidents role in having remorse and trying to set things right. From what I heard you and batman expressing you believe the government trust, corp is doing the right thing by us, but we are the one's messing it up. I have pointed out many, what I perceive as flaws in your logic what you have not addressed. One being your stance on money.

I pointed out your weren't born with money, clothes, a house. Why do you single out money as the only thing that is evil and must be eliminated from our lives to be right with God, whatever you perceive that to be, when we have many things in our lives we did not receive when we took bodies on this plane. Either get rid of them all or use them all as they were meant to be used. I hope this helps you see my frustration in dealing with you. I have heard many stories about your method, tape recording of it being used in court etc. I like many parts of it. I would just like a little more background info on how you came to some of the beliefs you came to. You are very Idealistic, I just want to bring your Idealism into a level of reality that works for me. Getting rid of all my money, clothes, house, etc. just does not work for me. Its all or nothing. I do not see money as the great Satan. Or money as a master I must reject in favor of God or vise versa. If you do that is fine. But don't expect me to go along with what I would consider foolishness at best. PS you need to get rid of that condescending attitude also. You do not know me but assume because I do not agree with you that I have not been given any thing, any truth. . Why is it that so many people in the sovereignty movement get such a self rightous aditude and believe they are the only one's doing it right. So if you would like to continue this relationship you need to be more considerate and less self assuming. fB

FB, Ok, let me just ask this then, is this your first time being on a Internet forum?
If it is then I apologize for the assumptions.
If not then your just making excuses for everything so you do not have to do anything and just want to always complain about what you do not have, these we call Trolls. If this is the case you are getting the information on this forum FREE so it is time to step up to the plate and do your part so your not identified as such.

" No money, no clothes " , no, no no. Hundreds of years ago before money was created we lived in pure equity, wheat for olive oil, wash your feet for a garment e.t.c. No, I am not asking you to wash my feet but if someone was in a bad situation and had to do something like that I would surely give them a garment for washing my feet.
Wouldn't you like to be doing things you love to do rather then doing things you had to do to pay bills, make the next payment, live in the rat race that we live in?

Example: Recently Belgium had a change over in government, between the were without a government for over 250 days, what did they do? They partied, celebrated, took care of each other, there was no violence, everyone had plenty to eat and they were left with nothing but the wonder of why they needed government in the first place.

Can you make any connection with the example above? If not then I guess we are done.

[Anthony Joseph]

Anthony, in your own words of expectation you have shown me nothing here, anybody can put a presentment up with some written language on it, you have not provided any recording, you have not shown that any of this actually worked and settled the matter. You have only shown your typed words as I have done, but yet you expect more out of me. Yes, I first said success but then took it out of that category and corrected the mistake, yet you still hold it over my head because some freaken EGO you got about what originally happened, get over it. I know I have said this before.

We have butted heads in other forums before, i am tired of going through the same dance with you so it is probably best that you do not comment on my posts and I will not comment on yours.

What I have shown is the actual presentment received which initiates the beginning of the process I am implementing. I did not tout this as the "Anthony Method" nor have I made any claims except what my intentions are and how I will deal with the presentment. This event just happened recently and I provided the santized presentment refused for cause and the clerk instruction for recording my process. These are the only things I have to present here as of yet. I also explained in detail what my actions will be upon any further presentments relating to this matter. My plan is to fully document and share this process to the end here as it is the first "CITATION" I received since learning how to present the DL card. I will let the others here decide if our offerings compare with each other.

You define all this as "butting heads" or some kind of "dance". I don't know of anyone else here who shares your sentiments on this issue.

Where have we "butted heads" on other forums? Perhaps you have me confused with someone else? On which forums did we converse and what was your Username so I can either confirm or rebut that claim.

[Frederick Burrell]

No one can be that dense. bye bye. fB

[David Merrill]

I have heard echo from a couple people who do not believe in Private Law, but we do it all the time, but break it as well. Someone shares with you an amicable agreement in private, now that is law, somehow in your dealing with each other you cannot not agree on a particular thing so you bring it to a third party, you could have chose one man in confidence as a mediator in private, BUT you bring it into a Public Court instead. When private matters are brought into the public it is telling the court that you are not competent enough to settle this in private so now you are here and have to deal with our rules of how this will turnout.

I always insist on handling things in the private first and I let them (the DA and court know it), before coming down to meet the appointment of summons I announce my visit and for what purpose I am there by notice through the mail, then when I arrive it is just then a simple matter of doing what I said i was going to do in asking them to settle honorably " in private " before it is brought into public where they could be exposed to public scrutiny as well as i. If you really operate as a peaceful inhabitant and have this intent, things go much more smoothly.
So none of this has to do with public court room rules or procedures, it is a private amicable
agreement settled in private for some ticket a dumb ass cop made a public matter to put it bluntly.

PRIVATE. Not general, as a private act of the legislature; not in office;
as, a private person, as well as an officer, may arrest a felon; individual,
as your private interest; not public, as a private way, a private nuisance.
- 1856 Bouviers Dictionary

I cannot show you what i had wrapped in that paper, but I can tell you about it again.

- Robin-egg blue paper, wrapped 4 fold.

- Inside what was wrapped:

1. printout from online showing the certified mail previously delivered by notice of my visit and purpose for me being there.

2. copy of presentment (ticket) that had CS language written upon it that was sent in with the notice by certified mail.

3. copy of instrument printed out from the DMV that the vehicle was registered with the state.
( nothing i wrote on it)

4. copy of Birth Certificate

- All 4 sheets were stapled together.

The CS language written on the presentment is mentioned several times in the audio files on our talkshoe group, go there to hear "why" you would put this on the presentment.

Does this help any at all? If not then I guess we are done.

From reading Page 2 I gather I am quoting Motla68's 190th Post, and he still has not shown us anything, only excuses why he will not show us anything. To put it bluntly, you are making no sense when you say you cannot share a generic template of your 'private agreement' that you wrap in robin-egg blue paper. Instead you have distorted what I said about private law. It does not affect me unless I am party to the contract. I think the Bar is entirely private, as people reading my posts know.

It is not a dishonor for you to show us a generic template of the arrangement you make with any private judicial officer.

The amazing thing is after 190 posts you finally start to comply, by describing what we have been waiting for and then you start accusing somebody you have been keeping waiting for 189 posts of being a troll?

If not then your just making excuses for everything so you do not have to do anything and just want to always complain about what you do not have, these we call Trolls.

You could have told us a long time back that your process is secret and you cannot show us any of it because that would be dishonor! Wasting everybody's time like that Motla68, that sounds like a troll to me!

You came onto the forum whining to begin with, complaining about how we like you to show us when you make assertions. Not that the Quatlosers are peers but you caused this post. After you thought about your behavior you requested for Admin to clean up after your mess - you started a whole bunch of threads and then went through them and deleted your posts - remember? I suppose 20-30 of your 190 Posts are counted in there too, huh?

I just think you are so arrogant to think that you are justified in calling others "troll" around here while you completely ignore your own behavior as being justified because you know all the Secrets of the Sanctuary or whatever. Esoteric. That is exactly what it is. How much does it cost? How much did it cost you before somebody finally showed you the template?

If I was a good disciple and really, really want to know the Coresource Solution how long and how much? Would I have to praise any ignoramus priestcrafters like you along the way?

I lost interest a while ago but it gets me a bit angry that you come onto a forum named 'Saving to Suitors' Club and start calling Suitors trolls because they have developed Rules of Evidence that functions in the Real World. I am not talking about success stories; I am talking about a simple request that you show us, and after 190 posts all you have done is managed to describe in detail nonsense about why you cannot.



Regards,

David Merrill.



P.S. It is the Deposited for Credit on Account verbiage that does it - redemption of lawful money by demand.

[motla68]

There you go taking things out of context again, I did not directly call anyone "Troll" . I said if his intent was this and that it met the requirements of being identified as a troll, that was up to who I replied to for correcting the mistake. Are you now claiming to know what his thoughts and intents are?

P.S. It is the Deposited for Credit on Account verbiage that does it - redemption of lawful money by demand.

Are you saying all along you had it in your mind what made it work, but decided to torcher me anyway acting like you did not know?
Sounds like priestcrafter work to me as well. Also NO i did not pay anything for it, I earned it by experiencing it and living it.

Fine, no more Coresource stuff, act like I do not know about it either since it seems to be what you are all suggesting. All I can do is encourage those who are willing to put in the effort to earn it. Although it is simple and some people who have attempted to earn it instead of insisting to be shown everything have been spot on on things so I tried to speak words of encouragement. Anthony see's this has playing games.. oh well.

[David Merrill]

There you go taking things out of context again, I did not directly call anyone "Troll" . I said if his intent was this and that it met the requirements of being identified as a troll, that was up to who I replied to for correcting the mistake. Are you now claiming to know what his thoughts and intents are?



Are you saying all along you had it in your mind what made it work, but decided to torcher me anyway acting like you did not know?
Sounds like priestcrafter work to me as well. Also NO i did not pay anything for it, I earned it by experiencing it and living it.

Fine, no more Coresource stuff, act like I do not know about it either since it seems to be what you are all suggesting. All I can do is encourage those who are willing to put in the effort to earn it. Although it is simple and some people who have attempted to earn it instead of insisting to be shown everything have been spot on on things so I tried to speak words of encouragement. Anthony see's this has playing games.. oh well.

You came on showing us the Coresource Solution, then you deleted all your posts. Now you are saying you cannot show us because it is wrapped in special blue paper? I have never met a teacher who behaves like you.

[motla68]

You came on showing us the Coresource Solution, then you deleted all your posts. Now you are saying you cannot show us because it is wrapped in special blue paper? I have never met a teacher who behaves like you.

Yes, because it was in the wrong category to begin with. No, not hiding the original text, it is on that blog in plane site for everyone to see.

[shikamaru]

There is distinction between insolvency and bankruptcy.
Insolvency is the inability for one to service their debt.
Bankruptcy is a vestiture granted by a court to a penitent absolving (discharging) them of their debts.
Bankruptcy is a court granted status.

[Sovereignty]

I wonder if anyone can summarize the Coresource Solution methodology?


Just a cursory reading over Motla68's posts I get the sense that this is a path I don't need to follow?


i.e., I don't want to spend my time finding that out...so if someone could please elaborate?

[John Booth]

question everything, believe nothing, do your due diligence and research, and decide your path.

[David Merrill]

No one can be that dense. bye bye. fB