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  • reticulating splines
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 5

    #1

    Torn from all sides - Colorado State Income Tax

    Hello

    This is my first post so bear with me. I owe Colorado state back income tax. I made an arrangement for 50.00 per month. I am now unemployed with zero income. I tried to get them to defer payments for a little while until I get a job but having no mercy they wouldn't do it. I paid 25.00 on the Dec 2012 payment which was short but I was down to my last 60.00 so I felt at least I was making an effort. Now it looks like they have turned me over to a collections agency called integrated recoveries who called me on Monday 12/31. I haven't called them back yet but did enough research to know that's what it's about. My question is so what authority do they have besides harassing the crap out of me? Can they seize my bank account, garnish my wages when I get a job? What can they do and if anyone has suggestions (please be kind) on what I can do to deal or not deal with them I would appreciate it.

    I mean for crying out loud I'm in a struggle to survive and I'm being harassed by creditors on all ends, calls every hour from 8am to 9pm everyday. I'm looking for a job and I don't even want to answer the phone. Not to mention the battle with the mortgage company. I am sorry I don't mean to sound like a whiner but I really could use some advise if someone can please help me. Thanks
  • David Merrill
    Administrator
    • Mar 2011
    • 5955

    #2
    Originally posted by reticulating splines View Post
    Hello

    This is my first post so bear with me. I owe Colorado state back income tax. I made an arrangement for 50.00 per month. I am now unemployed with zero income. I tried to get them to defer payments for a little while until I get a job but having no mercy they wouldn't do it. I paid 25.00 on the Dec 2012 payment which was short but I was down to my last 60.00 so I felt at least I was making an effort. Now it looks like they have turned me over to a collections agency called integrated recoveries who called me on Monday 12/31. I haven't called them back yet but did enough research to know that's what it's about. My question is so what authority do they have besides harassing the crap out of me? Can they seize my bank account, garnish my wages when I get a job? What can they do and if anyone has suggestions (please be kind) on what I can do to deal or not deal with them I would appreciate it.

    I mean for crying out loud I'm in a struggle to survive and I'm being harassed by creditors on all ends, calls every hour from 8am to 9pm everyday. I'm looking for a job and I don't even want to answer the phone. Not to mention the battle with the mortgage company. I am sorry I don't mean to sound like a whiner but I really could use some advise if someone can please help me. Thanks
    Welcome to the forum Reticulating Splines.

    I would suggest that you tell them not to call again so that you can clear up your phone line and get back to work. I am living in Colorado and know of how cruel the DoR can be to those who endorse. Sorry to hear about that.

    If you redeem lawful money then you stay outside that contract nexus with the Fed. However there is quite a bit of credit generated on your prior endorsements and the IRS/DoR would seem to be calling us on the Fraud by Omission bluff we had going for a few years now.
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    • Chex
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 1032

      #3
      Can they seize my bank account? Great question reticulating splines.

      The Transfer, Withdrawal, Release and Indemnity agreement says it all.

      Set in the files I have was the case from http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/im....complaint.pdf

      You want know what they can do, familiarize yourself with this:

      Terms and Conditions & Required Disclosures https://www.principal.com/bank/pdfs/tac.pdf
      "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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      • JohnnyCash

        #4
        Originally posted by reticulating splines View Post
        Can they seize my bank account, garnish my wages when I get a job?
        Hello

        This is my 148th post so please bare with me. If you put their money in your bank account they sho nuf can. As has been suggested, your first step should be to stop endorsing private credit. I wouldn't worry much about bank rules, here's an example of a corporation that was notified of impending bank levy/seizure: http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showt...h-Lawful-Money but the company then showed proof that bank account contained LAWFUL MONEY and the IRS backed off - total forgiveness - unless of course you believe it was the argument about golden geese & unicorns that did it.

        Since the source of our oppression is central banking, don't feel bad about a little payback. I stopped paying the mortgage long ago and just like Jerome Daly, they haven't kicked me out (remember the bank was paid in full with new currency the day you signed the note). As for collection agencies, several strategies come to mind: R4C, laugh at 'em, ignore them (caller ID helps), or my favorite, breath heavily and ask the rep what they're wearing; then respond with: I ain't wearin nuthin!
        Last edited by Guest; 01-04-13, 09:21 PM.

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        • David Merrill
          Administrator
          • Mar 2011
          • 5955

          #5
          Of course the sooner you get started the sooner you end the problems associated with endorsing private credit from the Fed.
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          www.bishopcastle.us
          www.bishopcastle.mobi

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          • Chex
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 1032

            #6
            this
            "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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            • shikamaru
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 1630

              #7
              Originally posted by Chex View Post
              Keep your affairs of estate private.
              Keep it out of probate court.
              Last edited by shikamaru; 01-05-13, 03:36 PM.

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              • Chex
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 1032

                #8
                "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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                • shikamaru
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1630

                  #9
                  The gift could be placed in an inter vivos trust.

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                  • Treefarmer
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 473

                    #10
                    Originally posted by reticulating splines View Post
                    Hello

                    This is my first post so bear with me. I owe Colorado state back income tax. I made an arrangement for 50.00 per month. I am now unemployed with zero income. I tried to get them to defer payments for a little while until I get a job but having no mercy they wouldn't do it. I paid 25.00 on the Dec 2012 payment which was short but I was down to my last 60.00 so I felt at least I was making an effort. Now it looks like they have turned me over to a collections agency called integrated recoveries who called me on Monday 12/31. I haven't called them back yet but did enough research to know that's what it's about. My question is so what authority do they have besides harassing the crap out of me? Can they seize my bank account, garnish my wages when I get a job? What can they do and if anyone has suggestions (please be kind) on what I can do to deal or not deal with them I would appreciate it.

                    I mean for crying out loud I'm in a struggle to survive and I'm being harassed by creditors on all ends, calls every hour from 8am to 9pm everyday. I'm looking for a job and I don't even want to answer the phone. Not to mention the battle with the mortgage company. I am sorry I don't mean to sound like a whiner but I really could use some advise if someone can please help me. Thanks
                    Hello reticulating splines, welcome to the forum.

                    Have you asked your debt collection sharks to "cease and desist" from calling you on the phone?
                    You can ask them to handle all debt collection matters via written correspondence.

                    If the debt involves STATE taxes, wage garnishment should be expected.
                    Unfortunately, US citizenship makes it nearly impossible to work for a living anymore, if one utilizes the FIRST M LAST, DOB, SSN account entity.
                    The taxes, wage garnishments and other debt payments are often greater than the "income", especially for people who are "self employed", and have mortgages and/or student loan payments.

                    One of the most useful employments left these days for the FIRST M LAST, IMO, is welfare and foodstamps.
                    Since we all have to pay hundreds of different taxes, there's no harm in making a small part of that revenue stream benefit us occasionally.
                    Treefarmer

                    There is power in the blood of Jesus

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                    • reticulating splines
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 5

                      #11

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                      • reticulating splines
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 5

                        #12
                        Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                        Welcome to the forum Reticulating Splines.

                        I would suggest that you tell them not to call again so that you can clear up your phone line and get back to work. I am living in Colorado and know of how cruel the DoR can be to those who endorse. Sorry to hear about that.

                        If you redeem lawful money then you stay outside that contract nexus with the Fed. However there is quite a bit of credit generated on your prior endorsements and the IRS/DoR would seem to be calling us on the Fraud by Omission bluff we had going for a few years now.

                        Thank you David. Colorado Dept of Revenue is brutal. What I initially owed has grown by hundreds of dollars with the penalties and interest. I was really making an effort to get it paid down for a while but it was going the wrong way. Finally I called and asked why I owed more so much more than I started with when I was making payments for almost a year. I was told that the extra penalties would be stopping after about a year.

                        I owe the Fed too but at least they deferred me making a payment for a year, not that the interest won't stop.

                        Now my latest issue with Wastewater, Denver Storm & Drainage service annual fee. It went up by 30.00 and I haven't made it a priority with my circumstances so I just got a certified letter they are going to give notice to the Manager of Finance to process a lien against my house for 108.00 by the end of Jan if it's not paid in full plus interest and filing fees. It's not a lot to pay but I've hit some hard times. Going through this has opened my eyes in many ways. I feel for some of the senior citizens on limited incomes who have their property taxes, insurance and all these other money making loopholes heaved on them to the point where they can't afford their homes even if it's paid off. Seems like the vulnerable are their favorite targets. . At least we have TABOR, HA in your face with TABOR you thieving bums. It can only go so far before people finally say enough is enough you greedy sob's. I want to learn how to put up a fight where I can and or they just mow you over with their self proclaimed authority.
                        Last edited by reticulating splines; 01-17-13, 10:24 AM. Reason: typo

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                        • David Merrill
                          Administrator
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 5955

                          #13
                          Originally posted by reticulating splines View Post
                          Thank you David. Colorado Dept of Revenue is brutal. What I initially owed has grown by hundreds of dollars with the penalties and interest. I was really making an effort to get it paid down for a while but it was going the wrong way. Finally I called and asked why I owed more so much more than I started with when I was making payments for almost a year. I was told that the extra penalties would be stopping after about a year. I owe the Fed too but at least they deferred me making a payment for a year, not that the interest won't stop.

                          Now my latest issue with Wastewater, Denver Storm & Drainage service annual fee. It went up by 30.00 and I haven't made it a priority with my circumstances so I just got a certified letter they are going to give notice to the Manager of Finance to process a lien against my house for 108.00 by the end of Jan if it's not paid in full plus interest and filing fees. It's not a lot to pay but I've hit some hard times. Going through this has opened my eyes in many ways. I feel for some of the senior citizens on limited incomes who have their property taxes, insurance and all these other money making loopholes heaved on them to the point where they can't afford their homes even if it's paid off. It can only go so far before people finally say enough is enough you greedy sob's. I want to learn how to put up a fight where I can and or they just mow you over with their self proclaimed authority.
                          these coins to be worth about $300M. They are located in a Treasury vault on the SE corner of the Golden Rectangle in Colorado Springs. That is an interesting survey. My suspicion is this is the value of the US notes still "circulating" in FR Banks. They are kept "circulating" in vaults to prevent them wearing out by handling since 1971.

                          I removed Secretary RUBIN for Temple Desecration quite some time ago by and large by using the US Geodetic Survey to prove that I am on dry land. I used Mount Herman for that. Interestingly Mount Herman is on the Rectangle survey:




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                          • John Howard
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 118

                            #14
                            Originally posted by David Merrill View Post

                            I am still hoping that somebody will explain how that can be honest and honorable.
                            That can not be.

                            Perhaps we need to think outside the box they would have us dwell in. Let's say that we actually have two "dollars", not one. We have the Federal Resrerve Accounting Unit Dollar, the FRAUD, and the Real Dollar, which is 412.5 grains of standard silver per the Coinage Act of 1792. Anything less than a Real Dollar is a FRAUD. Then let the two compete in the free market, recognizing that one is not the other. Over time FRAUD denominated accounts could be emptied and Real Dollar accounts could take their place. It would be confusing at first, but where there's a will there's a way.
                            Blessed is he who keeps from stumbling over me.

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                            • Franco
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                              • Jan 2013
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