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  • allodial
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 2866

    #16
    Originally posted by Chex View Post
    The largest note ever printed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing was the $100,000 Gold Certificate, Series 1934. These notes were printed from December 18, 1934 through January 9, 1935 and were issued by the Treasurer of the United States to Federal Reserve Banks only against an equal amount of gold bullion held by the Treasury. These notes were used for transactions between FRBs and were not circulated among the general public. http://nutmegcollector.blogspot.com/...1_archive.html
    However, promissory notes are issued most every single time someone sits down to make a 'car loan' or a 'mortgage'. Major companies issue billion dollar notes occasionally. In order for the U.S. Treasury or w/e to issue ____ in coins, it might just require someone to put something of value before they give something of value in return. Money exists for facilitating exchange of services and assets and for payment of taxes rather than for its own sake. What the government can or cannot do is one thing. What the private side can do is another.
    Last edited by allodial; 11-11-13, 10:26 PM.
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    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    • allodial
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 2866

      #17
      Originally posted by Chex View Post
      The FSIA was passed to provide remedy ...
      The FSIA's relevance is very much so. Fixation on gold ore or silver or wood or paper distracts from getting to the heart of what money is. Sure, just weights and balances are important. Lawful money preferred over clearinghouse certificates (FRNs).

      Originally posted by Chex View Post
      In essence, when Parliament passed and later tried to enforce legislation affecting America, they simply did not have the power to do so. The acts of Parliament were meaningless and rightfully disregarded by Americans. They were acutely cognizant that Parliament had no more right to ose their will upon America than the King of Spain or the King of France or the long-dead Senate of Rome for that matter.
      It was put plainly in an old text that King of England was by default and inherently a principal conservator of the peace. The conservator of the peace having a duty to conserve the peace many not necessarily have power to impoverish and may have a duty to avoid promoting economic instability--if not to promote prosperity to eat least to preserve it.

      Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
      In America and abroad to some extent we have United States currency notes
      Interestingly, in New Zealand the post office is involved in the issuance of coins.

      New Zealand Post is proud to be the only official issuer of New Zealand legal tender collectable coins in partnership with the Reserve Bank of New Zealand.
      Last edited by allodial; 11-12-13, 10:52 AM.
      All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

      "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
      "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
      Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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      • Chex
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 1032

        #18
        Interesting http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showt...ll=1#post11989

        Specifications Mintage Limit: 40,000 ~ Product Limit: 20,000

        http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...egory_rn=10118
        "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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        • allodial
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 2866

          #19
          The article referred to in this post gives insight to what happened in the 1960s (likely orchestrated event) when the melt value of silver in the pre-1962 U.S. silver dollars exceeded the face value of the coins.
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          "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
          "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
          Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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          • allodial
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 2866

            #20
            Originally posted by Chex View Post
            Crozier to Monetary Commission Feb 3 1912 http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=qSs5AAAAMAAJ

            Alfred Owen Crozier (1863-1939) was a Midwest attorney who wrote eight books on the political, legal, and monetary problems of the United States.[1] He is best known for his work US Money Vs Corporation Currency, "Aldrich Plan," Wall Street Confessions! Great Bank Combine (1912), which argues against the formation of The Federal Reserve.

            He feared national banking, but he feared private control of the United States money system even more.

            He also wrote The Magnet: A Romance of the Battles of Modern Giants (1908), Nation of Nations: The Way to Permanent Peace; A Supreme Constitution for the Government of Governments (1914), League of Nations: Shall It Be an Alliance, or a Nation of Nations? Must Be One or the Other! (1919), What Ails our Country?: Cause of and Cure for Booms, Crashes, Depressions and Bank Failures (1933).
            You might find the writings of James Graham Cannon might be a bit more practical as to operations, application and law rather than being political.
            All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

            "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
            "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
            Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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            • allodial
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 2866

              #21
              Originally posted by Chex View Post
              Crozier to Monetary Commission Feb 3 1912 http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=qSs5AAAAMAAJ

              Alfred Owen Crozier (1863-1939) was a Midwest attorney who wrote eight books on the political, legal, and monetary problems of the United States.[1] He is best known for his work US Money Vs Corporation Currency, "Aldrich Plan," Wall Street Confessions! Great Bank Combine (1912), which argues against the formation of The Federal Reserve.

              He feared national banking, but he feared private control of the United States money system even more.

              He also wrote The Magnet: A Romance of the Battles of Modern Giants (1908), Nation of Nations: The Way to Permanent Peace; A Supreme Constitution for the Government of Governments (1914), League of Nations: Shall It Be an Alliance, or a Nation of Nations? Must Be One or the Other! (1919), What Ails our Country?: Cause of and Cure for Booms, Crashes, Depressions and Bank Failures (1933).
              If you're interested in writings more practical than political you might be interested in those of a James Graham Cannon written around 1899-1910.
              Last edited by allodial; 11-14-13, 04:55 AM.
              All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

              "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
              "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
              Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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