Republic of Texas became a unique limitation of scope comapred to other states.

[motla68]

And you totally overlooked the source cites. I figured as much. Let my statements stand as they are with no rebuttal on your part.



Continue abandoning your position. You present a Supreme Court case. Cite none of the dicta or holdings. Reference two minor footnotes. Followed by this wild construction where the connection is at best weak and at worst misleading.

Let's try this: start with reading the actual case and what it says rather than these wild, weak constructions of your mind's imagination.



Cop out again. Now you are abandoning the case and switching to your "morals" and conscious. The argument is not about your supposed "morals" or your conscious, but your original premise along with the case presented and the weak nexus constructed by you.
Stay on target, if you can.
I say we can pretty much conclude you've abandoned your position.




Cop out 3: You realize what you've presented along with the constructed nexus do not solidly support your original premise.

Respond concerning your premise, its arguments, and supports thereto or don't respond at all.
Save the moralizing speech for some other thread.

More diversion I see to disassociate ones self from doing their own work, you continue to say i did not provide this and did not provide that. Like I said there is those who earn the knowledge and will far excel those who live off other peoples labors. David just provided a tremendous resource for the benefit of all and you did not even give it a thought, all you could think about is what you did not get.

[David Merrill]

Honestly I do not even understand the Title of this Thread.

What went down in the '90's as I said, I chilled the 300 troy ounce sale for the Sanhedrin to hear the case under the Seven Noahide Laws. There was a group of folks forming a society under the idea that there is a politically extant Republic of Texas. A renegade named MaCLAREN actually kidnapped somebody, a sheriff or judge under the color of authority and that pretty much quashed the whole movement as only two or three people were willing to make that stand.

I was in Bible Study with a woman who is the sister of one of the, then, Members and he provided her, and her to me, a signed copy of that response I linked. I recall that was around the time of Turnaround Tuesday because I included some of the information in my amicus brief to the RoT. I also had a copy of the Response the Sanhedrin made where they were bitter about my interjection. That 300 troy ounces of gold was about $90K at the time and the Sanhedrin was looking forward to an easy score. My chilling the sale was basically explaining to the RoT that the US would not be making an appearance and a default by the Sanhedrin was meaningless to the US.

Which would open a discussion on the validity of the Seven Noachide Laws - but I am not sure this is the thread...

[motla68]

Heated discussion is very productive when between two trained members like you two! Thanks.

My point from the Urantia Book was that there has to be a survey on a land claim and gisting the thread it would seem that the Republic of Texas sold that right. I may be missing the point though. I just threw that in from the Urantia Book because it might be helpful.

Here is a photo of my Urantia Book on top of The Concordance but I forget why I did not crop out the radio equipment. Maybe I wanted the photo to be date stamped? I first read The Urantia Book when I was sixteen years old.

We do the best we can with what tools we have.

Yes, they sold the incorporated rights to the survey. The way I see the civil war, hence the word civil was a battle over the land surveys. i.e. incorporated rights to land. The events that happen within these corporations is not the same but mimics natural law therefore runs in parallel to. Mother earth spews out her embryonic lava and creates new land events that get recorded, mom spews out us, also be a event of a new land survey that gets recorded and then a birth of a new survey is born.
When we accept the rights of personhood though crossing that parallel even if a Republic we cleave on to civil law rather then existing in natural law and the rights thereof.

I had to really chuckle a bit inside not to offend a friend who a guardian member of the RAP organization tried to justify to me what they do, said that their new constitution was based upon biblical principles, all I had to ask is if there was one biblical verse in that constitution and he said no. After that I told him our discussion about that is over then.

having the communication devices in the photo assist a rumored proposal of sometime in the future we will not need such devices in which to communicate with one another, the yogis allegedly tap into this all the time. I find it interesting hearing of a journey yashuah had taken during a prime part of his life which would be known as India today, if this were true then he would have had some exposure to some of their practices.

[motla68]

Honestly I do not even understand the Title of this Thread.

What went down in the '90's as I said, I chilled the 300 troy ounce sale for the Sanhedrin to hear the case under the Seven Noahide Laws. There was a group of folks forming a society under the idea that there is a politically extant Republic of Texas. A renegade named MaCLAREN actually kidnapped somebody, a sheriff or judge under the color of authority and that pretty much quashed the whole movement as only two or three people were willing to make that stand.

I was in Bible Study with a woman who is the sister of one of the, then, Members and he provided her, and her to me, a signed copy of that response I linked. I recall that was around the time of Turnaround Tuesday because I included some of the information in my amicus brief to the RoT. I also had a copy of the Response the Sanhedrin made where they were bitter about my interjection. That 300 troy ounces of gold was about $90K at the time and the Sanhedrin was looking forward to an easy score. My chilling the sale was basically explaining to the RoT that the US would not be making an appearance and a default by the Sanhedrin was meaningless to the US.

Which would open a discussion on the validity of the Seven Noachide Laws - but I am not sure this is the thread...

Well sorry to confuse again, sometimes that is where we find ourselves is when we get lost. What I was eluding to in the subject is that even though the Republic had sold their right to the lands away it was done under a conditional acceptance, that being from what I gather was theoretically a longer leash when it came time to them making their own laws as the State of Texas, not like the other states with so much oversight from the federal level. I was expecting more debate with factual resources rather then third party hearsay of what someone else said on the Internet to bare fruit as to the details of what that conditional acceptance was. The compromise of the 1850 Act makes mention of new surveys drawn up that would become the State of Texas, the new State of Texas that was decided was of course what is drawn up on maps today, but there was still a small portion of the land that was unaccounted for. Maybe that could be unearthed from the history of the other states that have their survey overlay of those lands. I am not sojourning on those lands, but I had hoped someone in here who lived on that land would have more information as to what came of that last little survey of land that was left over which was not sold as far as I know.

[David Merrill]

Presuming true inspirition the Gospel of Philip the Deacon 1934 portrays that Jesus did quite a bit of traveling in his 20's through Egypt, Babylon and maybe India too.

This suggests that the early Masons had a library system or university for learning the esoterics and that Jesus was not actually initiated until the Baptism. He was welcomed abroad as a unfranchised student until the Order of Archelaus on the Jordan, presided over by Archelaus' brother John the Baptist.



P.S. I have been mistaken about Archelaus - he was Herod Antipas' brother.

[motla68]

Presuming true inspirition the Gospel of Philip the Deacon 1934 portrays that Jesus did quite a bit of traveling in his 20's through Egypt, Babylon and maybe India too.

This suggests that the early Masons had a library system or university for learning the esoterics and that Jesus was not actually initiated until the Baptism. He was welcomed abroad as a unfranchised student until the Order of Archelaus on the Jordan, presided over by Archelaus' brother John the Baptist.

Yes, if you take into consideration the experiences he had would have an effect upon his life and his state of mind, constitution of morals. In your image at the bottom " taken up into high places and shewn the riches of the world" , it would be interesting to see the rest of that paragraph for deciphering and interpretation.

[shikamaru]

More diversion I see to disassociate ones self from doing their own work, you continue to say i did not provide this and did not provide that.

And what of your premise, the case presented, and the nexus you attempted to create between them?
Safe to say the ship has been abandoned?

Like I said there is those who earn the knowledge and will far excel those who live off other peoples labors.

Is this your defense?
Aren't you contradicting yourself using a Supreme Court case and a few scraggly footnotes?

[shikamaru]

I was expecting more debate with factual resources rather then third party hearsay of what someone else said on the Internet to bare fruit as to the details of what that conditional acceptance was.

Bouvier's Law and Black's Law Dictionary are hearsay?

[motla68]

And what of your premise, the case presented, and the nexus you attempted to create between them?
Safe to say the ship has been abandoned?



Is this your defense?
Aren't you contradicting yourself using a Supreme Court case and a few scraggly footnotes?

I have not abandoned myself, still recognize myself and I am my own court of conscience, the case is just a table ornament for conversation purposes.

[motla68]

Bouvier's Law and Black's Law Dictionary are hearsay?

No, just coming from you as recent history dictates it is hearsay. I do not accept something as a fact just because the informer said it.

[Treefarmer]

Does it have any relation to this?

The seven groups of commandments, which was given to the nations of the world through Noah, was to establish a system of law and Courts that would uphold the Noahide Laws, bring justice into the world; and maintain a standard of righteousness and morality in human communities.

The Noahide Laws are growing in popularity. They have even reached the U. S. Congress:



These laws along with those who promote them, are telling people there are two sets of laws. One for the Jews (Yahudim) and the other for Gentiles (goyim). We know this is not Scriptural because we are told:

Thank you for that link Chex, I found that to be helpful.
Very interesting subject matter!

[shikamaru]

No, just coming from you as recent history dictates it is hearsay. I do not accept something as a fact just because the informer said it.

Equal to the hearsay of this whole thread that you started.