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  • osbogosley
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 57

    #16
    Cop says, (pointing at the DL) "Is that you ?" Response: That looks like letters and numbers on a piece of paper doesn't it?
    Please identify yourself, can be answered with: Got a mirror?

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    • David Merrill
      Administrator
      • Mar 2011
      • 5954

      #17
      Originally posted by Jethro View Post
      I once received a federal jury summons with a questionnaire similar to the one osbogosley posted. In response to the question "Are you a U.S. citizen?" I checked NO (as I'm not) and mailed it back. A couple weeks later I received a response that I am not qualified to be a federal juror.

      Actually, I was disappointed. I was looking forward to deciding against the government in every case.

      Publish the letter at the county clerk and recorder. That is the US acknowledging that you are not a citizen of the US.
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      • osbogosley
        Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 57

        #18
        Being born in any particular place doesn't seem to be inportant at all. Its not where you are born. The custom is based on inherited characteristics of the father. How do you rebut the presumption that citizenship is inherited from the father? How do you prove that was your father? Does anyone have personal knowledge of the father? Can citizenship be inherited?

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        • David Merrill
          Administrator
          • Mar 2011
          • 5954

          #19
          Originally posted by osbogosley View Post
          Being born in any particular place doesn't seem to be inportant at all. Its not where you are born. The custom is based on inherited characteristics of the father. How do you rebut the presumption that citizenship is inherited from the father? How do you prove that was your father? Does anyone have personal knowledge of the father? Can citizenship be inherited?
          Consider the postman a field scout for the foreigner or stranger among the nation. In Judeo-Christian law we relate the priestcraft through Masonry. So you are either in or out. Basically you are under the Laws of Moses or its alternate which is the Seven Noachide Laws. If you reside, then you are the nokriy - from nakar - which is from the same root Noach - Noah. I will let you check it out in Strong's for yourselves. Look to Deuteronomy 15:1-3, and 23:20.
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          • motla68
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 752

            #20
            Originally posted by osbogosley View Post
            Being born in any particular place doesn't seem to be inportant at all. Its not where you are born. The custom is based on inherited characteristics of the father. How do you rebut the presumption that citizenship is inherited from the father? How do you prove that was your father? Does anyone have personal knowledge of the father? Can citizenship be inherited?
            Here is something you might be looking for:

            Prescription ;
            " 2. In law, prescribing for title; the claim of title to a thing by virtue of immemorial use and enjoyment; or the right to a thing derived from such use. Prescription differs from custom, which is a local usage. Prescription is a personal usage,usage annexed to the person. Nothing but incorporeal hereditaments can be claimed by prescription."
            - 1828 Websters dictionary
            "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
            be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

            ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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            • motla68
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 752

              #21
              Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
              Consider the postman a field scout for the foreigner or stranger among the nation. In Judeo-Christian law we relate the priestcraft through Masonry. So you are either in or out. Basically you are under the Laws of Moses or its alternate which is the Seven Noachide Laws. If you reside, then you are the nokriy - from nakar - which is from the same root Noach - Noah. I will let you check it out in Strong's for yourselves. Look to Deuteronomy 15:1-3, and 23:20.
              Yes, your person is sort of as a boat as you will and you choose in what direction to push it as well as influencing others which way to push theirs, into the light of knowledge or further into darkness where problems are identified but never dealt with to find a solution, the i do not want to know kind of people.
              Also if you go one verse more in Deuteronomy to 15-4 it says to possess, NOT to own.

              23:20 is one of those key versus as related to strangers of foreigners that makes distinction between origination and incorporation.

              http://rydersreformers.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/fl_polkcounty_ackdeed.pdf


              Land reclaiming itself by prescription.

              Land ;
              " 6. The inhabitants of a country or region; a nation or people. "


              Prescription ;
              " 2. In law, prescribing for title; the claim of title to a thing by virtue of immemorial use and enjoyment; or the right to a thing derived from such use. Prescription differs from custom, which is a local usage. Prescription is a personal usage,usage annexed to the person. Nothing but incorporeal hereditaments can be claimed by prescription."
              Last edited by motla68; 11-28-11, 02:10 PM.
              "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
              be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

              ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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              • allodial
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 2866

                #22
                It might be helpful for all to realize that the word "place" most always connotes a public location such as a "plaza" (the similar to the word "place" should be obvious). Place = public.

                Also:

                1. perhaps the only way to live in a municipal corporation might be to be a municipal corporation
                2. to "own" a boat might be construed to be liable for the boat. To possess or have a lien on the boat are different than ownership.

                P.S. I've seen jury duty notices dealt with by simply handing it to the postal worker that delivered it. I've seen this and the postal worker clearly know what was up and took it back without making a peep.
                Last edited by allodial; 11-28-11, 07:19 PM.
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                • Jethro
                  Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 87

                  #23
                  Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                  Publish the letter at the county clerk and recorder. That is the US acknowledging that you are not a citizen of the US.
                  Good suggestion, David!

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                  • allodial
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 2866

                    #24
                    Anymore, if you encounter cops and show credentials and its clear that you do not have an SSN and are not a U.S. citizen, file a notarized "Memorandum As to Agreed Upon Facts". Get their badge #s, commission/warrant cards...take notes, it should bolster the filing.
                    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

                    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                    • David Merrill
                      Administrator
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5954

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Jethro View Post
                      Good suggestion, David!

                      If you want to, go fill out a voter registration form specifying that you are not a US citizen. They will mail you a letter saying they have removed or cannot register you. Take that letter back to them and publish it at the county clerk and recorder. Now you have your proof, and verified by the county clerk's testimony that you are not a US citizen.
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                      • osbogosley
                        Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 57

                        #26
                        Thanks for all the responses. They have had a few days to review my answer. I seriously don't think I will get a response. I will let you know if I do. Thanks I really appreciate this forum.

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                        • osbogosley
                          Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 57

                          #27
                          Notice from the local radio station in their e-newsletter: McCulloch Co. Jury Cancelled
                          The McCulloch County Jury Trial scheduled for Thursday, Dec. 22 has been cancelled. Jurors called for the trial do not have to appear on Thursday at 9:00am.

                          I never got a return response from what I sent them. On we go to the next event. Cheers, Osbo

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                          • Chex
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 1032

                            #28
                            page one
                            Last edited by Chex; 12-23-11, 03:13 PM.
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                            • osbogosley
                              Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 57

                              #29
                              I think the use of the phrases "this state" and "state of" are references to federal enclaves within whatever state.

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                              • David Merrill
                                Administrator
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 5954

                                #30
                                Originally posted by osbogosley View Post
                                I think the use of the phrases "this state" and "state of" are references to federal enclaves within whatever state.
                                The Districts were established in 1789 and by 1790 the intent of the Districts was to be responsible for the debts of the United States.
                                Last edited by David Merrill; 01-28-12, 12:47 AM.
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