Is Calling The Police An Act of Delegation of Authority?

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  • allodial
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 2866

    #1

    Is Calling The Police An Act of Delegation of Authority?

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    People v. Johnson(1981) 123 Cal.App.3d 495, 499
    Arpinv. Santa Clara Valley Transportation Agency (9th Cir. 2001) 261 F.3d 912, 920
    In view of the above California cases, is calling the police an act of delegation of authority? If so what does that tell you? Is the message in the above anything short of loud as clear as to from whence police derive their powers? Is it then true that when a police officer makes an arrest even without being called, he is merely a delegate of the people and nothing more? Does it follow that all arrests are citizens arrests? If the police officer isn't a citizen then what is he?
    Last edited by allodial; 02-03-13, 08:54 AM.
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  • David Merrill
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    • Mar 2011
    • 5949

    #2
    Except when you identify yourself as a taxpayer with the SSN; which is from your Driver License card. This is why a suitor is advised to get a new card and to sign it with a true name. This then allows the opportunity to Refuse for Cause but more so, the suitors says, I am not showing you this card for Identification Purposes - I am showing it to your to demonstrate competency only and to prove that my insurance policy is capable of restoring a claim in an accident.

    In other words the Department of Revenue, Division of Enforcement has been repealed (replaced by municipal police forces) in Colorado. You do not buy the Driver License card at the Driver License Store:


    There is only the beginning of understanding. There are multiple ways to make my point and so I utilize different mental models. The Libel of Review is a good example - it covers it in the other fluff around a new suitor's initial Refusal for Cause (look at that example clerk instruction). To understand read that example clerk instruction at least twice.


    Petitioner
    street address
    Colorado Springs, Colorado.
    [zip]

    United States District Court Registered mail # RA XXX XXX XXX US
    for the District of Colorado
    901 19th Street - A105
    Denver, Colorado.
    [80294]

    Dear clerk;

    Please file this refusal for cause in the case jacket of Article III case 03-XXXX. This is evidence if this presenter claims I have obligations to perform or makes false claims against me in the future. A copy of this instruction has been sent with the original refusal for cause back to the presenter in a timely fashion.

    Certificate of Mailing

    My signature below expresses that I have mailed a copy of the presentment, refused for cause with the original clerk instruction to the district court and the original presentment, refused for cause in red ink and a copy of this clerk instruction has been mailed registered mail as indicated back to the presenter within a few days of presentment.

    _______example________________________
    Petitioner

    Presenter's name Registered mail # RA XXX XXX XXX US
    Address
    Anywhere, State.
    [presenter's code]
    If you are a taxpayer and ID yourself with a SSN through your Driver License then you are unable to rescind the naked contract riding on the card.



    It helps if you look at authority delegated through non-organization. This is difficult to perceive except as you put it plainly Allodial. It is right there in front of us. The most non-organized component is the man or woman and there you have it - the right of arrest. So when does the man or woman become subject? Through the "valid" income tax in the Social Security contract!


    To get this through you have to align yourself with the theory that Colorado is special. This is the Capitol in reality. Washington DC is a municipal ornament for the Districts while Colorado was never properly formed a Territory in 1861. It carries a pentagram (not Pentagon) of military might around Colorado Springs and that easily protects the Federal Center in Littleton, mostly being in the center of the continent and a Mile High. This non-organization elevates it to a positive law jural society that sets the precedent here for you, wherever you are.

    Another supporting doc is the 1984 Article in my video about Abolishing the Fed.

    ...After 1933, however, the case law no longer emphatically declares that income is exclusively corporate profit or that it arises from a privilege. So, what changed? Two years after H.J.R. 192, Congress passed the Social Security Act, which the Supreme Court upheld as a valid act imposing a valid income tax: 'Charles C. Steward Mach. Co. v, Davis' 301 U.S. 548 (1937).
    There is a subtle distinction about who or what is delegating authority to whom or what, depending on how you identify yourself. If you do not wish to identify yourself as a government employee (taxpayer) utilizing the Social Security System for driving purposes then see C.R.S. 42-2-107:

    ...If the applicant does not have a social security number, the applicant shall submit a sworn statement made under penalty of law, together with the application, stating that the applicant does not have a social security number.
    Of course that deconditioning is another ball of wax. How many of you understand that you only have a SSN for purposes of making an "old age" or disability type of insurance claim? If you have a SSN for the purpose of identifying yourself then you make your citizen's arrest at your own peril. The right of arrest is a precious gift and it ended the Salem Witch Hunts. Please do not disable your rights by identifying yourself with a SSN:


    Last edited by David Merrill; 02-03-13, 11:28 AM.
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    • shikamaru
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1630

      #3
      Police's powers of arrest are no greater than that of the citizen.

      Let's just say citizen's arrest is a dormant power that most have forgotten (or abandoned).

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      • RiderOnTheStorm
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 11

        #4
        Originally posted by shikamaru View Post
        Police's powers of arrest are no greater than that of the citizen.

        Let's just say citizen's arrest is a dormant power that most have forgotten (or abandoned).

        if somebody calls the police and "deligates the authority" to the police then that person has the liability if it turns out to be "under color of law" and the one arrested ends up suing. If a police offer arrests you without anybody being called he then is personally responsible and not the whole public.

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