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  • Bear Eagle
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 28

    #1

    The united states is still a british colony

    Very interesting read. Dont know where else to put it. Seems that the end of America started in the beginning.

    We borrow the present from our childrens future.
  • Bear Eagle
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 28

    #2
    We borrow the present from our childrens future.

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    • Bear Eagle
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 28

      #3
      The Fiscal Agents of Mystery Babylon

      Since its beginnings, the Temple Church at the City of London has been a Knight Templar secret society. It was built and established by the same Temple Knights who were given their Rule and Order by the Roman Pope. It’s very important to know how the British Royal Crown was placed into the hands of the Knights Templars, and how the Crown Templars became the fiscal and military agents for the Pope of the Roman Church.

      This all becomes very clear through the Concession Of England To The Pope on May 15, 1213.charter was sworn in fealty by England’s King John to Pope Innocent and the Roman Church. It was witnessed before the Crown Templars, as King John stated upon sealing the same,

      “I myself bearing witness in the house of the Knights Templars.”

      Pay particular attention to the words being used that we have defined below, especially charter, fealty, demur, and concession:

      We wish it to be known to all of you, through this our charter, furnished with our seal… not induced by force or compelled by fear, but of our own good and spontaneous will and by the common counsel of our barons, do offer and freely concede to God and His holy apostles Peter and Paul and to our mother the holy Roman church, and to our lord pope Innocent and to his Catholic successors, the whole kingdom of England and the whole kingdom Ireland, with all their rights and appurtenances… we perform and swear fealty for them to him our aforesaid lord pope Innocent, and his catholic successors and the Roman church… binding our successors and our heirs by our wife forever, in similar manner to perform fealty and show homage to him who shall be chief pontiff at that time, and to the Roman church without demur. As a sign… we will and establish perpetual obligation and concession… from the proper and especial revenues of our aforesaid kingdoms… the Roman church shall receive yearly a thousand marks sterling… saving to us and to our heirs our rights, liberties and regalia; all of which things, as they have been described above, we wish to have perpetually valid and firm; and we bind ourselves and our successors not to act counter to them. And if we or any one of our successors shall presume to attempt this, whoever he be, unless being duly warned he come to his kingdom, and this senses, be shall lose his right to the kingdom, and this charter of our obligation and concession shall always remain firm.

      Most who have commented on this charter only emphasize the payments due the Pope and the Roman Church. What should be emphasized is the fact that King John broke the terms of this charter by signing the Magna Carta on June 15, 1215. Remember; the penalty for breaking the 1213 agreement was the loss of the Crown (right to the kingdom) to the Pope and his Roman Church. It says so quite plainly. To formally and lawfully take the Crown from the royal monarchs of England by an act of declaration, on August 24, 1215, Pope Innocent III annulled the Magna Carta; later in the year, he placed an Interdict (prohibition) on the entire British empire. From that time until today, the English monarchy and the entire British Crown belonged to the Pope.

      The following definitions are all taken from Webster’s 1828 Dictionary since the meanings have not been perverted for nearly 200 years:

      FEALTY, n. [L. fidelis.] Fidelity to a lord; faithful adherence of a tenant or vassal to the superior of whom he holds his lands; loyalty. Under the feudal system of tenures, every vassal or tenant was bound to be true and faithful to his lord, and to defend him against all his enemies. This obligation was called his fidelity or fealty, and an oath of fealty was required to be taken by all tenants to their landlords. The tenant was called a liege man; the land, a liege fee; and the superior, liege lord.

      FEE, n. [In English, is loan. This word, fee, inland, or an estate in trust, originated among the descendants of the northern conquerors of Italy, but it originated in the south of Europe. See Feud.] Primarily, a loan of land, an estate in trust, granted by a prince or lord, to be held by the grantee on condition of personal service, or other condition; and if the grantee or tenant failed to perform the conditions, the land reverted to the lord or donor, called the landlord, or lend-lord, the lord of the loan. A fee then is any land or tenement held of a superior on certain conditions. It is synonymous with fief and feud. In the United States, an estate in fee or fee simple is what is called in English law an allodial estate, an estate held by a person in his own right, and descendible to the heirs in general.

      FEUD, n. [L. fides; Eng. loan.] A fief; a fee; a right to lands or hereditaments held in trust, or on the terms of performing certain conditions; the right which a vassal or tenant has to the lands or other immovable thing of his lord, to use the same and take the profits thereof hereditarily, rendering to his superior such duties and services as belong to military tenure, &c., the property of the soil always remaining in the lord or superior.

      By swearing to the 1213 Charter in fealty, King John declared that the British-English Crown and its possessions at that time, including all future possessions, estates, trusts, charters, letters patent, and land, were forever bound to the Pope and the Roman Church, the landlord. Some five hundred years later, the New England Colonies in America became a part of the Crown as a possession and trust named the “United States.”

      ATTORNING, ppr. Acknowledging a new lord, or transferring homage and fealty to the purchaser of an estate.

      Bar Attorneys have been attorning ever since they were founded at the Temple Church, by acknowledging that the Crown and he who holds the Crown is the new lord of the land.

      CHARTER, n. 1. A written instrument, executed with usual forms, given as evidence of a grant, contract, or whatever is done between man and man. In its more usual sense, it is the instrument of a grant conferring powers, rights and privileges, either from a king or other sovereign power, or from a private person, as a charter of exemption, that no person shall be empanelled on a jury, a charter of pardon, &c. The charters under which most of the colonies in America were settled, were given by the king of England, and incorporated certain persons, with powers to hold the lands granted, to establish a government, and make laws for their own regulation. These were called charter-governments.

      By agreeing to the Magna Carta, King John had broken the agreement terms of his fealty with Rome and the Pope.

      The Pope and his Roman Church control the Crown Temple because his Knights established it under his Orders. He who controls the gold controls the world.

      The Crown Temple Today

      The workings of the Crown Temple in this day and age is moreso obvious, yet somewhat hidden. The Crown Templars have many names and many symbols to signify their private and unholy Temple. Take a close look at the (alleged) one dollar $1 private Federal Reserve System (a Crown banking franchise) Debt Note.

      Notice in the base of the pyramid the Roman date MDCCLXXVI which is written in Roman numerals for the year 1776. The words ANNUIT COEPTIS NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM are Roman Latin for ANNOUNCING THE BIRTH OF THE NEW ORDER OF THE WORLD. Go back to the definitions above and pay particular attention to the words CAPITOL, CROWN and TEMPLE. 1776 signifies the birth of the New World Order under the Crown Temple. That’s when their American Crown Colonies became the chartered government called the United States, thanks to the Declaration of Independence. Since that date, the United Nations (another legal Crown Temple by charter) rose up and refers to every nation as a State member.
      We borrow the present from our childrens future.

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      • shikamaru
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1630

        #4
        I miss Against the Grain Press ='(

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        • Bear Eagle
          Junior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 28

          #5
          Originally posted by shikamaru View Post
          I miss Against the Grain Press ='(
          Is this where it came from? I received both the link and body in an email. Maybe another press needs to rise again.
          We borrow the present from our childrens future.

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          • shikamaru
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 1630

            #6
            Originally posted by Bear Eagle View Post
            Is this where it came from? I received both the link and body in an email. Maybe another press needs to rise again.
            It is .

            ATGPress was awesome.
            My two favorite authors on there were "The Informer" and James Montgomery.

            James Montgomery is the original author of the US is still a British Colony.

            You can probably find pieces of it on the WayBackMachine online.

            "The Informer" was absolutely kung-fu .

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            • allodial
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 2866

              #7
              There is a court case that mentions that the United States (corp.) existed prior to the revolution of 1776. There was a reference to such online....but....*shrugs*
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              "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
              "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
              Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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              • sportiva27
                Junior Member
                • May 2011
                • 5

                #8
                more of the informer:



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                • Bear Eagle
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 28

                  #9
                  Thanks!
                  We borrow the present from our childrens future.

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                  • allodial
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 2866

                    #10
                    Note 1775 vs 1776.



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                    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

                    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                    • Treefarmer
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 473

                      #11
                      Originally posted by shikamaru View Post
                      I miss Against the Grain Press ='(
                      Me too.
                      That was one of my favorite websites while it lasted.
                      Treefarmer

                      There is power in the blood of Jesus

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                      • shikamaru
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1630

                        #12
                        Originally posted by allodial View Post
                        There is a court case that mentions that the United States (corp.) existed prior to the revolution of 1776. There was a reference to such online....but....*shrugs*
                        Respublica v. Sweers (1779)

                        US government being the body corporate, "We the People" is the body politic as well as an association.

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                        • allodial
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 2866

                          #13
                          That's the one. I have it on one of my archival harddrives waiting for a new home.

                          Your council have taken several exceptions to the form and substance of these indictments, upon a motion in arrest of judgment. The first exception was, 'that, at the time of the offence charged, the United States were not a body corporate known in law.' But the Court are of a different opinion. From the moment of their association, the United States necessarily became a body corporate; for, there was no superior from whom that character could otherwise be derived. In England, the king, lords, and commons, are certainly a body corporate; and yet there never was any charter or statute, by which they were expressly so created. (Respublica v. Sweers (1779))
                          Can you say "de facto corporation"--the thirteenth colony perhaps? The Articles of Association of 1774 would likely be the association being referred to.

                          The Union is much older than the Constitution. It was formed, in fact, by the Articles of Association in 1774. It was matured and continued by the Declaration of Independence in 1776. It was further matured, and the faith of all the then thirteen states expressly plighted and engaged that it should be perpetual, by the Articles of Confederation in 1778. And finally, in 1787, one of the declared objects for ordaining and establishing the Constitution was “to form a more perfect Union. [Inaugural address of Abraham Lincoln, on taking Oath of Office as President of the United Statees, March 4, 1861. per Appletons' annual cyclopaedia and register of important events, Volume 1 (1864)]
                          There are other perspectives:

                          The essence of this argument is that the colonies formed a new nation in 1774 and any statement of their independence or the subsequent constitutions they entered into simply “matured” this new nation. The facts however do not support Lincoln’s fable. The Union, as it existed in Lincoln’s time, as well as today for that matter, began with the ratification of our current Constitution—not before.

                          While it is true the Articles of Association brought together twelve of the thirteen colonies (Georgia did not participate) for a common purpose, it did not form a new government, national or otherwise. This Association was nothing more than an agreement among the colonies, each acting on their own, to participate in a trade boycott against the British Empire.

                          Lincoln’s claim that the Articles of Association formed a Union is demonstrably false, since all one needs to do is refer to the language of the Articles themselves to see that this was not the case at all. To begin with, throughout this document, the colonies remained true to their allegiance to the British Crown, where for example, the preamble proclaims, “We, his majesty’s most loyal subjects.” It is also noteworthy that the frequently stated purpose of these Articles defined them as a, “…non-importation agreement….”

                          Even more significantly, consider what was missing from these Articles. For one, there was no expressed intent or specific language establishing a union or compact among the colonies with powers to perform any functions of a government. Furthermore, these colonies never delegated or surrender any power or authority to any other entity, governmental or otherwise.

                          Therefore, as far as the Articles of Association was concerned—the very foundation of Lincoln’s argument—there was nothing whatsoever supporting the idea that the colonies established any new central authority. Despite the premise of Lincoln’s argument being at odds with the facts, there are other ingredients of Lincoln’s so-called nation creating argument deserving further examination.(Source)
                          Last edited by allodial; 09-27-11, 09:20 PM.
                          All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

                          "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                          "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                          Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                          • shikamaru
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1630

                            #14
                            It helps to do some research on the treatment of corporations in Roman Civil, English Common, and American Law in addition to researching the terms body politic and body corporate.

                            Blackstone's Commentaries treatment of corporations is very informative.

                            The Law of Associations is the root of it all followed by Companies Law and finally, Corporate Law.

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                            • shikamaru
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1630

                              #15
                              Let us also recall that colonies were private holdings of either the Crown or Parliament.

                              Colonies were established for purposes of commerce amongst other reasons.

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