Lincoln killed America

[Keith Alan]

Plus the personal exemption is about $10k, I think. So unless a prisoner earned that much, well...

[BAMAJiPS]

yeah, but how is the IRS to know that someone made less than $10,000 without the person filing? I know they have their tactics, but can they assume on us all? Its ludicrous. They target whom they wish.

[Keith Alan]

yeah, but how is the IRS to know that someone made less than $10,000 without the person filing? I know they have their tactics, but can they assume on us all? Its ludicrous. They target whom they wish.

I was only responding about what the popular notion is. I agree with you.

[David Merrill]

I think that income minimum would take care of it for most inmates. Also being a formal ward of the state would play a big role. Suppose the convict had investments earning dividends of over $10K for example - these earnings now belong to the State as warden by virtue of the convict being convicted.

I like the way you think though BamaJips. I find it interesting that you would inquire. Are we convicted by a Social Security Number?

[Chex]

What Prisoners Need To Know

SSA Publication No. 05-10133, ICN 468767, May 2010

Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) payments generally are not payable for months that you are confined to a jail, prison or certain other public institutions for commission of a crime.

You are not automatically eligible for Social Security or SSI payments when you are released. http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10133.html#a0=-1

If you get retirement, survivors or disability benefits and you are in jail and convicted of a crime, your monthly benefits will stop after you remain in jail for more than 30 continuous days following your conviction date.

If you are in jail awaiting trial, you will continue to get your check until you are convicted.

Hummm, looks like your already deemed convicted.

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1224/related/1/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xMzU3ODI4MjEwL3NpZC9YRXh0aFlmbA%3D%3D

and there is more

[walter]

civil service (n.)
c.1785, originally in reference to non-military staff of the East India Company. Civil servant is from 1800.

[David Merrill]

East India - especially Dutch gets my attention. Thanks!

[walter]

http://www.masoncode.com/The%20Great%20Seal.htm

[David Merrill]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]1044[/ATTACH]http://www.masoncode.com/The%20Great%20Seal.htm

Thank you for making that clear to me/us.

Another way to view it is by ORDER. WASHINGTON was inaugurated the first President on the porch of the Mason lodge in NY, by the Grand Master and Chief Justice of NY while NY was short on ratification for the Constitution - no quorum. We put our order forth in the universe. The universe fills our order.

Communication and creation are synonymous. Only beings of like order can truly communicate/create. So men of ORDER were what brought this nation together. Please notice that the George WASHINGTON in the Mason Museum looks a lot more like Adam WEISHAUPT (creator of the Bavarian Seers - later the Illuminati) than the traditional WASHINGTON on the dollar bill.

[allodial]

An African-American Icon Speaks Truth to the Lincoln Cult

The Cult of Lincoln

According to custom, the Inaugural ceremonies should have begun at noon. But at that hour Mr. Buchanan was still in his chamber at the Capitol signing bills. It was not till ten minutes past twelve that he left the Capitol. He drove rapidly to the White House, entered an open barouche with servants in livery, and proceeded to Willard's. There the President-elect, and Senators Pearce and Baker of the Committee of Arrangements, entered the carriage, and a few minutes before one the procession began to move.

On one hand one might consider the Constitution as being for the FEDERAL STATE called "United States of America". On another hand one might consider the Articles of Confederation as being a treaty of amity among independent sovereign states which created a confederacy called "The United States of America". The "Constitution (Cosmos) of the United States" isn't necessarily a document, its more of a collection of laws, principals, customs and the like--its far more abstract than the Constitution for the United States of America document. It might be not all that far fetched that a distinct state was formalized by the Constitution and that might have been its primary purpose. The water is hopefully clearer.

(re: "the United States are" vs. "the United States is".)

[allodial]

Is it a mere coincidence that with South Carolina (Dec. 20, 1860); Georgia (January 19); Virginia (May 23, 1861 by referendum; more formally April 17); North Carolina (May 20) seceding that left nine of the original parties to the Articles of Confederation remaining?

The united States in congress assembled shall never engage in a war, nor grant letters of marque or reprisal in time of peace, nor enter into any treaties or alliances, nor coin money, nor regulate the value thereof, nor ascertain the sums and expenses necessary for the defense and welfare of the United States, or any of them, nor emit bills, nor borrow money on the credit of the united States, nor appropriate money, nor agree upon the number of vessels of war, to be built or purchased, or the number of land or sea forces to be raised, nor appoint a commander in chief of the army or navy, unless nine States assent to the same: nor shall a question on any other point, except for adjourning from day to day be determined, unless by the votes of the majority of the united States in congress assembled.

Nine States would be just enough to exercise war powers under the Articles of Confederation even if not under the federal-state (USA/US/Union) Constitution.

[David Merrill]

Interesting indeed! This photo is from The Craft of Intelligence by the formative Director of the CIA - Allen Welsh DULLES.

[walter]

Look at the 50 sec mark of this Hollywood film clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AXbiCdmXgw

Hollywood agrees with me.

10 years ago, Hollywood never would have dared playing a movie like this after 911.
I guess the people have calmed down enough to have round two with the white house being the next big one.

[David Merrill]

Thank you Walter! You are right; the history around this is astounding.





P.S. I think I recognize PINKERTON behind LINCOLN - founder of American Intelligence!

[walter]

Good eye David

The Hidden Hand that Shaped History

http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/the-hidden-hand-that-changed-history/

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