Legacy Forming

[george]

hmm.. written in collaboration with jesus? interesting. that is the first time Ive heard/read anyone with that suggestion. it has been great to read while lurking here the discussions between each of you about these things. I learn more this way than any other (listening/reading to people with higher knowledge in a discussion)


masonry is such a fascinating org. to me. just recently and seemingly syncronisticly Ive obtained my G.Grandfathers certificate of Master Mason.

I am a builder. I hope you are too. Isn't it time?

Shalom,
MJ

I noticed an unusual date on the certificate and this was on the same day I had been reading somewhere about the Gregorian calendar and how it forms jurisdiction/control so it really cought my attention.

I decided to research the mason date and found it varies depending on the lodge. (if what is published is correct)

I think more study is in order. maybe the end time is not what it seems?

I am, a man, what time is it? or maybe more importantly, whos time is it?

thanks

edit: this is way way out there but you may want to read this thread: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread807082/pg1

[Michael Joseph]

Well to be clear I am not a member of the fraternity called Masons. However, with much study of the Scriptures I can see where they got the name. We are each called to be Builders of the Temple.

1Co_6:19 Or know ye not that your body is a Temple of THE Holy Spirit which is in you, which ye have from God, and ye are not your own?

Comment: Purify yourself. Isn't that what Esther did to make herself presentable to the King?

Tit_2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Jas_4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

Comment: Why are men concerned with the so called "end times". I suppose that is a proof in itself:

Deu 32:25 The sword without, And terror from the inner chambers, Shall bereave both the young man and the virgin, The suckling also with the man of gray hairs.

Why would blood flow as high as the horses bridle? We shed these flesh bodies at the appearance of Jesus Christ. But men love their fairy tales as they love to go an and on - verse 25 is a proof indeed - absolute terror. But even that is parabolic but I haven't the time to go into that depth.

Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them in order that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but ... those men which have not the seal of God upon their foreheads.

Sealed with Knowledge! Indeed, I find study of the Scriptures to be the most rewarding of practices. It has shown me exactly the structures of the world kingdoms - it has filled my head with Wisdom, knowledge, understanding and discernment whereof I lacked. I have become useful to my brothers.

Language....

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed [as a potter] man [Eth Ha Adam] of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath that is life; and man became a living soul

Is this air? Yes, but why oh why do men stay upon their weak fleshly understandings. Isn't it time to realize that the Central Nervous System is not a tree that leads to life. The Spirit gives life! Therefore the "wind" or "breath" is understood in its Parabolic meaning to be SPIRIT in MAN - Ref Eccl 12:6-7. But men love their history and what they can see and hear - missing the boat of course as to true knowledge.

Isa 19:19 In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD.

Isa 19:20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.

Gematria is the science of finding meaning in the numerical value of words. In the Hebrew language each individual letter has a numerical value. Thus every word has the numerical value of the sum of the value of its letters. If one adds up the numerical value of all the Hebrew characters in the Great Pyramid text the value is 5449. This is the height in inches of the Great Pyramid!

We are living stones building the Temple. One can know the exact date of Jesus' birth to be Sept 29, 3BC if one knows the geometry of the Christ Triangle. A study of this CLASSROOM is amazing. It even teaches how to use planer geometry to solve 2nd Order Integrals [Calculus].

Oh and by the way, Newton got Inertial Frames from you guessed it Scripture! Book of Ezekiel. Jurisdiction is in your head. I am free in Christ. Peter could walk on water with his eyes on Jesus Christ. Water = Sea = Age = Admiralty [man's law forms] Baal Priests = Lawyers.

You want to learn about Law, Trust, Equity, private law boundary [close], cestui que use, cestui que trust, Judgments, etc STUDY the Scriptures, reading is not gonna cut the mustard! For it is only thru study that one can find the duty of a King. Mem-Lamed-Qof

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

[David Merrill]

One should listen to my teachings about the Masons too, with it in mind that I have never become an initiate. I recall that a Mason was quite excited about Aaron RUSSO's America - Freedom to Fascism video production and we toured the Golden Rectangle Survey. He was on fire to share the discovery and the many facets that it held in potential. I tore a big hole in his sails by reminding him he has sworn to keep these things secret, where I have taken no such oaths. He resigned from RUSSO's activities shortly after that too.

I found this rendition of the Gospel of Philip (1939) in the Mason Library.

[george]

You want to learn about Law, Trust, Equity, private law boundary [close], cestui que use, cestui que trust, Judgments, etc STUDY the Scriptures, reading is not gonna cut the mustard! For it is only thru study that one can find the duty of a King. Mem-Lamed-Qof

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Im not yet able to "see" the instructions in the bible clearly on these subjects. I could use some guidance/specifics or a study guide on each subject. mostly just where each subject you mention is found in the bible so I dont have to read it all over again but also because Im sure I would mis most of them even if I did re-read everything.

you seem to have a sharper insight about these things and how they relate to the bible than anyone else Ive been exposed to. Im glad you share more than guard your mind & opinion about these things. myself and others like me might mis them altogether if not for your posts here. its/your quite remarkable actually and highly respected.

One should listen to my teachings about the Masons too,

where can I find these David? Ive read much of what you have posted on the subject in various places here.

Micheal Tzarion has quite the fascination with them and has published lots of his perspective on them. I think it was him who suggest they are at the top of all other organizations (literally) all eastern and western religious and political. can you share your opinion here with us about that?

with it in mind that I have never become an initiate.

I have taken no such oaths.

that is always nice to hear/read David, Im not for or against them as Ive not verified for myself what they are truly all about but I find the secrecy aspect distrustful and alarming. but to be honest and Ive said/wrote here before I find trusting very difficult. its not all bad though, you learn alot more than most. takes being jack of all trades and Do it yourselfing to higher levels too.


as always, thanks guys.

[David Merrill]

I meant in general, whenever I am teaching my experiences from the Mason Library and Museum mostly.

[allodial]

masonry is such a fascinating org. to me. just recently and seemingly syncronisticly I've obtained my G.Grandfathers certificate of Master Mason.

This might be of interest to you then: http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showt...ight=convivial.

According to a Templar that I know, there are many variations among those who call themselves Masons as there might be among Jewish (Orthodox, Reform, etc.) or Christian (Lutheran, Pentecostal, Baptist, etc.) religious denominations. IMHO, there has been far too much hype as of late about Freemasonry and such. Advertising? Marketing?

There might exist a noteworthy distinction between Masonry and "Freemasonry" with the notion of one aiming to be subject to classical restraints or restrained morally and with the other aims to be "Free" (i.e. no holds barred, "anything goes", "whatever is clever"). Some suggest "Freemason" is based on the Egyptian for "Son of of Fire and Light" (Phree messen (like messenger?)) (or even on French for 'son of' but frer is brother not son, mmkay?). (In Dutch 'een lucifer' allegedly means "a match"--seems to have been due to a brand name of matches made by a Samuel Jones).

From what I've gathered "Free" means 'free' as in without classic moral (or any) restraints.

With the Knights Templar came the Secret of the Sanctuary which was about Jesus being married and carrying the alleged skull and femur bones of Mary MAGDALENE as "evidence".

Sounds like the Jolly Roger story projected onto Jesus/Yeshua Christ and Mary Magdalene. However, what I was told over a decade ago was that the Skull & Bones mainly symbolizes their hope in the death without resurrection of Jesus Christ that they are boasting of killing him and of him being dead and in the tomb--thusly the Nietzschiesque lawlessness. Re the bones carried around, the video about the fixation on "death" and bones below might further illustrate that they might aiming to mock the the idea of resurrection.


(Champ de Mars / Field of Mars)

So this everything goes...I have a name for it "Adversarialism"-- Satan means "adversary" it is said thus perhaps "Satanism" is "Adversarialism"--every man for himself and against everyone else. Somewhere in there there might be a "God of War" or a "God of Forces" in there held to be the utmost, highest to be appealed to.

I see no evidence that Masons are into Satan worship or even Lucifer worship past a dedication to secular humanism, which from a Christian projection and perception would indeed be that, as a reflection in my opinion. I think that in the setting of the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta the signings being witnessed and in the Lodge of the Masons is basically that Masons have been custodians of the Record, witnesses to human events.

Would make sense being that originally Masons were a Christian convivial club in America. The "Oriental" more occultic flavors started showing up in the mid 1800s. Albert Pike's Morals & Dogma allegedly makes reference to Lucifer. Secular humanism seems to strike me at times as the over-elevation of the unregenerate, carnal, lawless, immoral man who would likely be deemed to be of a rather beastly state. Secular humanism suggested to be the Serpent's party line in the Garden of Eden story. (Do what thou wilt?)

At some point I came to realize that most anyone can say that they work in the 'construction' business. Creation whether abstract or otherwise can be a type of 'construction'. So who isn't a builder of some kind?



The Templar that I know is quite a decent fellow. Some of those I have met who alleged to be Freemasons are into rather disgusting, disdainful behaviors supported a dogma that knows no law--of course that doesn't necessarily cast a bad light on other Freemasons.

In contrast:

Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all your getting get understanding.

It is said that one of the initiate oaths of a certain style of Freemasonry suggests that the candidate or initiate will be made "a brother to pirates and corsairs". The Jolly Roger (Black Jack --see Union Jack)is said to indicate lawlessness and was said to have been used with the Red Jack (joli rouge?) at times. The skull and bones symbology of the Jolly Roger is said to have originated from a tale of a man who has sex with his dead wife's body in a casket and what remained after the incident was a skull and two crossed bones or something like that. The pirate flag is said to be a warning of lawlessness.



Anyways I got the impression of Masons (lawfully guided) and Freemasons (free, without restraint) (builders vs free-builders).

"Jesus saith unto her, Mary, she saith unto Him, Rabboni, which is to say master"

Some suggest the word Rabboni suggests "Master Builder".

Related: America's Secret Establishment Order of Skull & Bones

And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever. (Source Genesis 3:22)

[I always got the impression that the man was being protected. As in, before man could access the tree of life, there would need to be some internal changes which would come with time--that mortality would be swallowed up of life rather than life swallowed up by death.]

But staying on topic, we're talking about legacy forming rather than lore spinning as some organizations are known to do. Could there somehow be a connection with lawlessness and nakedness (no proper flag)?

P.S. Atheistic humanism seems to be a cruel inside joke asserting 'humans' to be merely animals living ultimately purposeless lives (see Why Things Are the Way They Are - Erica Carle).