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  • loveunderlaw
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 315

    #1

    "Court" Opinion On Land Patents - More malarkey from criminals posing as government.

    Attorney General J.B. VAN HOLLEN is in the wrong here, it's governments that can't claim land ownership beyond what they need to run government services ! Property tax is unlawful & usurps the citizens from THEIR land !
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  • KnowLaw
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    • Mar 2011
    • 84

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    "Court" Opinion On Land Patents

    Originally posted by loveunderlaw View Post
    Property tax is unlawful & usurps the citizens from THEIR land !
    Haven't had an opportunity to look at the PDF yet.

    But with regard to the comment above, the property tax is not unlawful if one consents to it. Trouble is, the majority of property owners consent to the tax on their home property without understanding that they are even consenting to such. What is unfortunate is people's lack of knowledge about the law with regard to such issues.

    Most people who have bought into the state's property tax revenue scheme haven't taken the time to study this issue.

    Corporate state's make a yearly offering of their services through the property tax valuation and assessment. If you understand how properly to reject their offer, it leaves them with no legal ground on which to make their claims in order to give energy to a tax lien.

    When a government descends to the level of a private corporation, coming down from its position of sovereignty and entering the domain of commerce in dealing with the people, it (government) takes on the character of a mere private citizen and loses any immunity to law suit that it may previously have had. In other words, it submits itself to the same laws that govern individuals. This was the effect of the case holding in the case of Clearfield Trust Company v. United States, 318 U.S. 363 (1943).

    This means you can, as a sovereign without subjects, reject any offer of which you do not approve, thus withdrawing consent.
    Maxim of law: "The laws sometimes sleep, but never die."

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    • Chex
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 1032

      #3
      Originally posted by KnowLaw View Post

      But with regard to the comment above, the property tax is not unlawful if one consents to it. Trouble is, the majority of property owners consent to the tax on their home property without understanding that they are even consenting to such. What is unfortunate is people's lack of knowledge about the law with regard to such issues. Most people who have bought into the state's property tax revenue scheme haven't taken the time to study this issue. , thus withdrawing consent.
      Jay Noone: How to NOT pay property taxes interviewed by RT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKG0wUJWbcI

      Jay Noone did not score so well, Interim Town Manager Charles T. Blanchard said taking the property was necessary. "We all pay our taxes. Without that, government can't function," Blanchard said. Town Manager Charles T. Blanchard scored well http://www.masslive.com/news/index.s...rles_bl_4.html

      Jay Noone came from here An Introduction to the First & Second Organic Laws http://organiclaws.org/dr-eduardo-rivera/

      George sums it up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dY4WlxO6i0
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      • djlamb
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 17

        #4
        So, the MUNICIPALITY forcibly removed a living man from his land. The MUNICIPALITY reaffirms their (and the CITIZENS; I read the comments here - http://www.masslive.com/news/index.s...rs_home_t.html) legal actions of theft/extortion by not only stating the falsehood that "govt can't function", but also forcing a living man to be SURETY for a NAME that is NOT even his. Am I reading this correctly?

        If one has a private land contract with another living being (who owns said land; of course, this is questionable, if that being has been paying property taxes), trades (pays) the land with either lawful money or something else (gold/silver/pearls/whatever), does not REGISTER a DEED, does not SIGN any contract with the MUNICIPALITY, and no longer uses or recognizes an ADDRESS, the living man will STILL be FORCED off his land, if he chooses NOT to "pay property tax"??

        What if the living man files a suit on the NAME (let's say, a mere three million lawful money, not dollars)? Does that help?

        I am in the process of finding the patent for someone's land (not easy; I am currently at a standstill due to a missing document at the register of deeds), so we can then draft up the claim for the forever rights that are probably written on that lawful document.

        This is the first thread I have read under this topic. Maybe my answers can be found posted in a different thread?

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        • Chex
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 1032

          #5
          Originally posted by djlamb View Post
          If one has a private land contract with another living being (who owns said land; of course, this is questionable, if that being has been paying property taxes), trades (pays) the land with either lawful money or something else (gold/silver/pearls/whatever), does not REGISTER a DEED, does not SIGN any contract with the MUNICIPALITY, and no longer uses or recognizes an ADDRESS, the living man will STILL be FORCED off his land, if he chooses NOT to "pay property tax"?? I am in the process of finding the patent for someone's land (not easy; I am currently at a standstill due to a missing document at the register of deeds), so we can then draft up the claim for the forever rights that are probably written on that lawful document. This is the first thread I have read under this topic. Maybe my answers can be found posted in a different thread?
          Federal Land Patents offer researchers a source of information on the initial transfer of land titles from the Federal government to individuals. In addition to verifying title transfer, this information will allow the researcher to associate an individual (Patentee, Assignee, Warrantee, Widow, or Heir) with a specific location (Legal Land Description) and time (Issue Date). We have a variety of Land Patents on our site, including Cash Entry, Homestead and Military Warrant patents. Survey plats are part of the official record of a cadastral survey.

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          Surveying is the art and science of measuring the land to locate the limits of an owner's interest thereon. A cadastral survey is a survey which creates, marks, defines, retraces or re-establishes the boundaries and subdivisions of Federal Lands of the United States. The survey plat is the graphic drawing of the boundaries involved with a particular survey project, and contains the official acreage to be used in the legal description. http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/default.aspx


          What happened when the chain of land (160 acres) per owner died; who then claimed the land? Heir a person legally entitled to the property or rank of another on that person's death: who then picked up this allodial title?

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          Last edited by Chex; 12-14-14, 11:31 PM.
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          • shikamaru
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 1630

            #6
            Originally posted by Chex View Post
            Federal Land Patents offer researchers a source of information on the initial transfer of land titles from the Federal government to individuals. In addition to verifying title transfer, this information will allow the researcher to associate an individual (Patentee, Assignee, Warrantee, Widow, or Heir) with a specific location (Legal Land Description) and time (Issue Date). We have a variety of Land Patents on our site, including Cash Entry, Homestead and Military Warrant patents. Survey plats are part of the official record of a cadastral survey.

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            Surveying is the art and science of measuring the land to locate the limits of an owner's interest thereon. A cadastral survey is a survey which creates, marks, defines, retraces or re-establishes the boundaries and subdivisions of Federal Lands of the United States. The survey plat is the graphic drawing of the boundaries involved with a particular survey project, and contains the official acreage to be used in the legal description. http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/default.aspx


            What happened when the chain of land (160 acres) per owner died; who then claimed the land? Heir a person legally entitled to the property or rank of another on that person's death: who then picked up this allodial title?

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            Remember land patents were issued by foreign European governments as well. This applies more to the 13 original colonies than the states that came out of public domain lands. Although, I'm certain there are still some foreign patents associated with some of the public domain lands.

            Treaties (including treaties with Indians) as well as land statutes active at the time of the issuance of the patent will have bearing upon them as well.

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            • walter
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 662

              #7
              Originally posted by loveunderlaw View Post
              Attorney General J.B. VAN HOLLEN is in the wrong here, it's governments that can't claim land ownership beyond what they need to run government services ! Property tax is unlawful & usurps the citizens from THEIR land !
              I don't know why you would think that.
              What the AG wrote their is dead on.
              Citizens hold the lowest title to land "fee simple".
              That's "Federalism".

              The term federalism is derived from the Latin root foedus, which means "formal agreement or covenant."
              Covenant means deed by writing.
              There is already deeds in place here.

              I tried serving a commercial lien in Canada on the RCMP and I got back some letters from their law office saying something similar to what you have posted.
              They have no legal value because the instruments have no merit.
              Two reasons.
              One, they can't see it because the method is not in there codes.(foreign jurisdiction remedy)
              Two, the mandate of who can authorize legally their instruments.(the ones they can see in their jurisdiction)

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              • loveunderlaw
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 315

                #8
                Walter if you think I'm wrong, how come many powerful law firms are also in agreement with my(and our Founder's) contention that a free people should not be forced to pay a property "tax" ? Also Canada is a Common Law nation too, you shouldn't have accepted that flimsy excuse of theirs IMO.


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                • loveunderlaw
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 315

                  #9


                  The organization was among 21 community nonprofits proposed for real estate and personal property tax exemptions.

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                  • walter
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 662

                    #10
                    Originally posted by loveunderlaw View Post
                    Walter if you think I'm wrong, how come many powerful law firms are also in agreement with my(and our Founder's) contention that a free people should not be forced to pay a property "tax" ? Also Canada is a Common Law nation too, you shouldn't have accepted that flimsy excuse of theirs IMO.
                    I don't see any "free people".
                    Just citizens.

                    The AG trumps your "powerful law firms".
                    He is their general?

                    In Canada the majority of the land doesn't belong to Canada.
                    Canada only owns the Indian reservations, Parks, the northern "territories", territorial seas, and some political buildings but not all.

                    If Canada wants land for instance to make another park it has to ask for it from the Crown.
                    If you don't pay your property tax the title reverts to the Crown, not Canada or a Province.

                    Indians on the reservations don't pay land tax because the land is tax exempt because it belongs to Canada.

                    See the picture?

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                    • Chex
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 1032

                      #11
                      Originally posted by walter View Post
                      I don't see any "free people". Just citizens. The AG trumps your "powerful law firms". He is their general? See the picture?
                      Whittemore's plan for whom? What would Whittemore get out of it?
                      "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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