Debt: the perfection of voluntary servitude

[shikamaru]

This just occurred to me this morning.

If feudalism is considered the "perfection of subjugation", debt can be considered the "perfection of voluntary servitude".

Employment could be considered this as well.

[Chex]

Interesting article here

Where is the money spent that is borrowed from the public and who decides where it goes? http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/r...publicdebt.htm

Facts

[shikamaru]

We could also say that ... debt, employment, and representation are the perfections of voluntary servitude.

[shikamaru]

Interesting article here

Where is the money spent that is borrowed from the public and who decides where it goes? http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/r...publicdebt.htm

Facts

From the Treasurydirect website:

Where is the money spent that is borrowed from the public and who decides where it goes?

The Bureau of Public Debt is responsible for accounting for and reporting the debt in accordance with statutory direction. The Bureau does not have any public policy decision-making authority. Visit the Financial Management Service web site for more information. Information about the "Budget of the United States" is available at the Government Printing Office web site.

Notice that the question was not answered ... like ... at all?

[shikamaru]

When I think about debt, debt is typically solemnized by contract.

You have to put some effort into getting into debt, hence the voluntary servitude.
The conditions of the servitude are made explicit via the contract. One then authorizes the agreement into actuality.

[Chex]

"When, then, a law is in its nature a contract, when absolute rights have vested under that contract, a repeal of the law cannot divest those rights; and the act of annulling them if legitimate, is rendered so by a power applicable to the case of every individual in the community."

Marshall then defines a contract as a compact between two or more parties, and is either executory or executed. http://www.history1700s.com/page1760.shtml

The government is, then similar to a corporation. The government has vested interest in protecting the rights of the people it serves. Corporations are in the business to be of public service. Corporations rely upon its charter to protect not only itself but also the people it serves. The same situation exists for the congress.

Marshall continues to explain further that a legislative law is a contract and thus as a contract it cannot be broken.

Link http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/fo...4/civ00059.htm

[shikamaru]

The government is, then similar to a corporation. The government has vested interest in protecting the rights of the people it serves. Corporations are in the business to be of public service. Corporations rely upon its charter to protect not only itself but also the people it serves. The same situation exists for the congress.

I contend that government serves its own interest.
I also contend that government protects property, not people.
Further, government serves the purpose of militarizing, acquisition of resources, subjugation of populations, and revenue collection.

[Chex]

I contend that government serves its own interest. I also contend that government protects property, not people.
Further, government serves the purpose of militarizing, acquisition of resources, subjugation of populations, and revenue collection.

The SND is a legal determination that is presumptively correct and informs the taxpayer of the opportunity and right to petition the Tax Court to dispute the proposed adjustments.

IRS is expected to issue SNDs to United States Virgin Island Virgin Island residents redeem in lawful money

[JohnnyCash]

Your linked article talks about DHS running out of money, Jay, not USVI nor lawful money. I wonder if you linked to wrong article?
They do have this though, hilarious ... http://www.vox.com/2015/2/15/8043367...ersary-special

[walter]

They knew in the old days.
20:00 to 21:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umEEnFtmV0I

[allodial]

Employee = servant. It is no unlikely to find a set of books on "Master Servant Law" on the shelf in the corporate board room especially at banks. The idea is that Debtor = servant and Creditor = master.

[shikamaru]

Government is a family office.

A monarchy is a single family office.
A republic, an oligarchy, and an aristocracy are multi-family offices.

Essentially, these are corporations solely dedicated to the preservation, organization, and growth of that family or families wealth.

Republics always take on an oligarchical form. You could say they are synonymous.

[allodial]

Government is a family office.

A monarchy is a single family office.
A republic, an oligarchy, and an aristocracy are multi-family offices.

Essentially, these are corporations solely dedicated to the preservation, organization, and growth of that family or families wealth.

Republics always take on an oligarchical form. You could say they are synonymous.

The oligarchical aspect of the Republic be utilized to prevent mob rule. There is an interesting term "pneumocracy". There are those who suggested that pneumocracy was intended to be part of the Republican system. I beileve the notion of pneumocracy (spiritocracy) from Michael Williams' book (link below) is that the members of the society would all be led by the spirit of God for the society to work.

Related: Silenced in the Schoolhouse: How Biblical Illiteracy in Our Schools Is Destroying America

[shikamaru]

The oligarchical aspect of the Republic be utilized to prevent mob rule. There is an interesting term "pneumocracy". There are those who suggested that pneumocracy was intended to be part of the Republican system. I beileve the notion of pneumocracy (spiritocracy) from Michael Williams' book (link below) is that the members of the society would all be led by the spirit of God for the society to work.

Related: Silenced in the Schoolhouse: How Biblical Illiteracy in Our Schools Is Destroying America

Is mob rule any worse than minority rule and its accoutrements i.e. indoctrination, oppression, and tyranny?

Could minority rule be equated with quiet warfare?

[allodial]

Is mob rule any worse than minority rule and its accoutrements i.e. indoctrination, oppression, and tyranny?

I suppose it depends on the nature of the minority. If the minority has the morals of feral beasts vs if they are benevolent shepherds and guardians over their brethren who are allowed to grow and expand as they gather wisdom and knowledge and without interference or oppression. Like with a hammer, depends on whose hand its in.

If the mob or the minority are as feral beasts, it seems you'd have a farm or a jungle rather than a government.

On that note, the record seems to show a tendency of influences conspiring to push America away from traditional morals toward a more base system--key activity perhaps revving up more significantly around the 1830s or 1840s. Could removal of gold/silver from circulation have been intended to be a way to depose (i.e. eliminate/cripple) lawful government? With funny money how could you have a de jure claim at law?