Cop Executes Teenage Boy According to Witnesses

[shikamaru]

IF this kid attacked the police officer in the manner that is being alleged and went for his gun, then turned and rushed the cop. I would then say the cop was justified in his actions. I would expect that to happen to anyone that allegedly attacked a police officer.

How could Mike Brown turn to rush the cop after going for the gun fleeing from the cop?

There have been at least 5 instances this month in August of police gunning down or strangling to death unarmed African-American males.

The difference between if it were I being shot is it would not be reported hardly at all as it is in this case. Nobody gives a crap about black on white crime, or black on black for that matter. Just my perception. I reserve the right to change my mind as always.

I would say this. Perhaps the media doesn't care, but I'm sure the communities and victims care about those types of crimes.

This instance we are discussing is a police officer gunning down an unarmed African-American man.

I suspect anyways that our perception will differ based on race and life experiences anyways.

[shikamaru]

Manipulated is correct. The lawyers are the same (Crump and Parks) as Trayvon Martin incident. They are called the "scheme team" and they shook down the Home Owners Association where Trayvon was shot for $1.7 million, and of course attempted to shake down the city for tens of millions. It is a "shake down" racket following the same gameplan as Trayvon, including attempting to get the local prosecutor, police chief and mayor fired and replaced with their "progressive" team players. This is a stage and these are the players.

Principals are responsible for their agents. The agent, Zimmerman, did not follow the rules and protocol as set by his principal. Agents of the HOA acting as watchmen were to observe and report to police, not engage.

As to the Trayvon Martin instance, if Zimmerman would have kept himself in the car, there would have been no death.
Zimmerman was the aggressor. Zimmerman wasn't threatened in his car. He chose to engage. I didn't know walking, minding one's own business was an instance of suspicion. I guess this is more so due to skin color in some peoples' mind.

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[Casper]

As to the Trayvon Martin instance, if Zimmerman would have kept himself in the car, there would have been no death.
Zimmerman was the aggressor. Zimmerman wasn't threatened in his car. He chose to engage. I didn't know walking, minding one's own business was an instance of suspicion. I guess this is more so due to skin color in some peoples' mind.

That was already settled in a court of law. There was no obligation to stay in the car, that was a recommendation from the police dispatch. He had a right to walk around the neighborhood. Trayvon was hiding in the bushes and jumped him, got on top, and beat him MMA style. As the court ruled, Zimmerman had a right to use lethal force as he was in fear for his life. Maybe you have been influenced by the media version of events, just like in the Brown case. Brown was the aggressor, attacked him while in his truck, broke the officers eye socket, went for his gun, and later bum rushed him when the officer told him to freeze.

A source reported that Dorian Johnson, Brown's accomplice in the crime is now recanting his testimony for the 3rd time and, reported in the link below, is saying Brown did attack Wilson and go for his gun. Johnson likely wants a plea deal. Since every version of Johnson's story has been proven false, this may be his first attempt at the truth.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/19/breaking-report-dorian-johnson-recants-media-statement-tells-authorities-big-mike-did-try-for-officers-gun-acquittal-probable/

[Casper]

I didn't know walking, minding one's own business was an instance of suspicion. I guess this is more so due to skin color in some peoples' mind.

You know how I know you didn't read the facts of the case? If Trayvon was just walking home with his skittles, watermelon drink, and cigarillos, he would have been just fine. But because he was in to robbin' homes, he was walking between homes and looking around like he was casing the homes out. Even stopping to check out the homes. That is why he was suspicious, not because he was "black". Trayvon was caught in school with tools in his backpack used for robberies. He was known for gettin' high, robbin' and fightin'.

Trayvon got himself killed with bad choices in life, much like Brown. All Brown had to do was pay for the cigarillos, not rough up the store owner, stay out of the middle of the street, and he would be alive today.

[shikamaru]

You know how I know you didn't read the facts of the case? If Trayvon was just walking home with his skittles, watermelon drink, and cigarillos, he would have been just fine.

Trayvon didn't have cigarillos on him. He had only skittles and the drink. This alone shows your narrative is inaccurate.

But because he was in to robbin' homes, he was walking between homes and looking around like he was casing the homes out. Even stopping to check out the homes. That is why he was suspicious, not because he was "black". Trayvon was caught in school with tools in his backpack used for robberies. He was known for gettin' high, robbin' and fightin'.

https://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html

You are aware that Martin had no criminal record?
His backpage had a flat head screw driver? Is this the "tools of robbery" you are referring to?
Could you refer me to where Trayvon was known for "gettin' high, robbin', and fightin'"?
If he were known for the aforementioned, wouldn't he have a criminal record?

Let's just say you are strongly in favor of the halo effect for Caucasians and the police and leave it at that.

Take a good look at your claims. This is called demonization. All to justify a teenager's death.

[shikamaru]

That was already settled in a court of law. There was no obligation to stay in the car, that was a recommendation from the police dispatch. He had a right to walk around the neighborhood.

And Trayvon had no such right to walk around the neighborhood? Whose rights are greater?

Trayvon was hiding in the bushes and jumped him, got on top, and beat him MMA style.

This was purely the claim of Zimmerman.

As the court ruled, Zimmerman had a right to use lethal force as he was in fear for his life. Maybe you have been influenced by the media version of events, just like in the Brown case. Brown was the aggressor, attacked him while in his truck, broke the officers eye socket, went for his gun, and later bum rushed him when the officer told him to freeze.

I don't recall any official reports stating Brown was the aggressor. Could you point me to such reports?

Wasn't the officer in a car?

[Casper]

Trayvon didn't have cigarillos on him. He had only skittles and the drink. This alone shows your narrative is inaccurate.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/26/interesting-development-trayvon-martin-quid-pro-quo-at-the-7-11/

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/23/update-26-part-1-trayvon-martin-what-were-the-last-18-months-like-for-him/

Part 2:

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/

[shikamaru]

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/26/interesting-development-trayvon-martin-quid-pro-quo-at-the-7-11/

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/23/update-26-part-1-trayvon-martin-what-were-the-last-18-months-like-for-him/

Part 2:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...able-violence/

1) Wouldn't a website titled "The Conservative Treehouse" already tell us which way their and their reader's biases lean?
2) Did police report cigarillos on his person?
3) Do you have the toxicology report stating he had lean in his system? Does it say so in the toxicology report?
4) You do know he had no criminal record, right?

I will put this all under the horn effect.

Are you saying this teenager's death was justified?

[Casper]

shikamaru,

I have no desire to argue with you regarding facts already well documented, and already decided in court. I do not even know you or what you researched. I only encourage you to not be swayed by the media story line, and review all the evidence. You seem to accuse Conservative Treehouse with bias, but you have believed the biased media reports on Trayvon and Brown, which initial storyline in both cases has been proven false. The reporting done by the Treehouse in both cases have been proven correct.

I myself, believe that a man has a right to defend himself, with deadly force if needed. From the actions of both these young men, it seems they were on the wrong path in life. I believe what one reaps, he shall surely sow.

From your quick response, I can tell you did not even read the articles.

[shikamaru]

shikamaru,

I have no desire to argue with you regarding facts already well documented, and already decided in court. I do not even know you or what you researched. I only encourage you to not be swayed by the media story line, and review all the evidence. You seem to accuse Conservative Treehouse with bias, but you have believed the biased media reports on Trayvon and Brown, which initial storyline in both cases has been proven false. The reporting done by the Treehouse in both cases have been proven correct.

I myself, believe that a man has a right to defend himself, with deadly force if needed. From the actions of both these young men, it seems they were on the wrong path in life. I believe what one reaps, he shall surely sow.

From your quick response, I can tell you did not even read the articles.

Some of the "facts" you presented are not facts at all but skews.

I'm encouraging you to examine your biases directly.
From what I'm detecting, my opinion of course, is some racial resentment which Conservatives tend to have.
Caucasians will be judged more favorably in equal circumstances and African-Americans will be judged more harshly in negative circumstances.

This is all the halo and horn effect.

Another question: how is it that unarmed African-American men are being gunned down (5 and counting for the month of August in these United States) by law enforcement, yet a serial shooter/killer (Colorado) is escorted out to a police car?

[Casper]

I don't recall any official reports stating Brown was the aggressor. Could you point me to such reports?

The first official report came out on Wednesday, 4 days after the shooting. Did you not catch that it was reported Wilson was struck in the face?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/15/ferguson-police-releasing-name-of-officer-who-shot-michael-brown/

"On Wednesday, four days after the shooting, Jackson, the Ferguson
police chief released one new bit of information regarding the
encounter. Jackson said at a news conference that the officer was struck
in the face and required medical treatment."

This report came out on August 11, which was 9 days ago:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/11/anger-mounts-at-death-of-unarmed-black-teenager-in-missouri-fbi-launches-investigation/

[Casper]

Some of the "facts" you presented are not facts at all but skews.

Please enlighten me. You have proven with your words you have missed quite a few facts already.

[shikamaru]

Please enlighten me. You have proven with your words you have missed quite a few facts already.

I've already struck down several of your statements. Go re-read my last few posts.

You've already admitted you've read none of the links I've presented.

The sources you site do not inspire any trust in me concerning their analysis. Yes, I've clicked on several of your links as well.

My (clearly biased) opinion: Zimmerman is a murderer. Of course a predominantly Caucasian jury is going to find him innocent. Why would the narrative be anything else?

[Casper]

Now the mainstream media is reporting what has been out for a week. There are photos of Officer Wilson's injuries and that will come out to the Grand Jury if needed. Why did it take them so long?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-shooting-grand-jury-decide-october-charge-cop/story?id=25047905

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20/missouri-cop-was-badly-beaten-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/

This disproves Dorian Johnson's testimony. All 3 versions.