Cop Executes Teenage Boy According to Witnesses

[Casper]

Neither being in the middle of the street nor stealing cigars is an executable offense.

I agree with you on that, but he was shot because he assaulted a police officer reulting in a serious bodily injury, went for his gun, and then bum rushed him. That was the reason he was shot. He was not "executed".

[shikamaru]

You are entitled to your opinion, I respect that. But if Brown were white, under the same circumstances, he would be shot dead as well. Officers are trained to go home at night, so if one assaults them, it is by ones own actions the results will follow. No matter the color of ones skin.

If Brown paid for his cigars and stayed out of the middle of the street, he would still be alive today. One will reap what they sow.

I'll strongly disagree with you on the first paragraph.
Police are hardly fair or even in how they dish out.
I'll stick with my experience of them as truth.

Neither being in the middle of the street nor stealing cigars is an executable offense.

[Casper]

You are entitled to your opinion, I respect that. But if Brown were white, under the same circumstances, he would be shot dead as well. Officers are trained to go home at night, so if one assaults them, it is by ones own actions the results will follow. No matter the color of ones skin.

If Brown paid for his cigars and stayed out of the middle of the street, he would still be alive today. One will reap what they sow.

[shikamaru]

Do you think Wilson should stop and consider racial bias while Brown assaulted him and bashed his face? And then later when Brown bum rushed him? Is that what a "good" white cop should do when being assaulted by a black assailant? Or do you think that maybe his police training kicked in and he followed it by the book? If Brown were white, what do you think would be different?

If he were Caucasian, he wouldn't have been shot six times to death in all likelihood. I just provided you an article that police officers are less likely to use deadly force or shoot even armed Caucasians.

It has yet to be determined if Brown assaulted him. We'll see what turns up at trial.
I'll title the aforementioned the police narrative. It seems you've already decided its a foregone conclusion.

[shikamaru]

Thats my point. Why is the black community convicting the white cop in the media? Even when the evidence is mounting that Brown committed 3 felonies? Why not wait and let the investigation take place and the evidence come out? Why do they threaten peace unless they get their way now?

For those who historically have had little to no trust in the system, why put faith in it now?

Police shooting un-armed African-American males isn't raising the faith.

Historically, most officers get off for such deadly shootings as well.

[Casper]

Let the data lay where it may in trial.

Thats my point. Why is the black community convicting the white cop in the media? Even when the evidence is mounting that Brown committed 3 felonies? Why not wait and let the investigation take place and the evidence come out? Why do they threaten peace unless they get their way now?

[Casper]

Do you think Wilson should stop and consider racial bias while Brown assaulted him and bashed his face? And then later when Brown bum rushed him? Is that what a "good" white cop should do when being assaulted by a black assailant? Or do you think that maybe his police training kicked in and he followed it by the book? If Brown were white, what do you think would be different?

[shikamaru]

If the reported facts are true, do you still support Brown's actions?

Let the data lay where it may in trial.

Do you deny Wilson a right to defend himself?

At least he's alive to defend himself in trial. Same can't be said for others.

What does the color of ones skin have to do with these reported facts?

Racial bias is often a factor in the likelihood of an officer using deadly force especially against those of dark skin.

From the article you won't click:

According to stats compiled by the U.S. Department of Justice, an unarmed African American died at the hands of an armed White police officer at the rate of nearly two per week from 2005 to 2012. Over that 8-year-period, 400 police killings were reported per year. White officers killed a Black person, on average, 96 times per year.

Of those, 18 percent of the African Americans killed were under the age of 21, compared to 8.7 percent of Whites.

I take it all of them deserved to be gunned down?

[Casper]

Another question: how is it that unarmed African-American men are being gunned down (5 and counting for the month of August in these United States) by law enforcement, yet a serial shooter/killer (Colorado) is escorted out to a police car?

How did Officer Wilson know that Brown was unarmed? Officer Wilson may not have known Brown just committed a felony. But Brown knew he did. Brown assaulted Wilson and Wilson suffered massive facial injury, most would have been knocked unconscious. That was a felony. Brown also attempted to take Wilsons weapon. That is a felony. Brown also committed a strong armed robbery 10 minutes prior to this contact. That is a felony. I count at least 3 felonies against Brown.

If the reported facts are true, do you still support Brown's actions? Do you deny Wilson a right to defend himself? What does the color of ones skin have to do with these reported facts?

[Casper]

[Casper]

Now the mainstream media is reporting what has been out for a week. There are photos of Officer Wilson's injuries and that will come out to the Grand Jury if needed. Why did it take them so long?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-shooting-grand-jury-decide-october-charge-cop/story?id=25047905

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20/missouri-cop-was-badly-beaten-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/

This disproves Dorian Johnson's testimony. All 3 versions.

[shikamaru]

Please enlighten me. You have proven with your words you have missed quite a few facts already.

I've already struck down several of your statements. Go re-read my last few posts.

You've already admitted you've read none of the links I've presented.

The sources you site do not inspire any trust in me concerning their analysis. Yes, I've clicked on several of your links as well.

My (clearly biased) opinion: Zimmerman is a murderer. Of course a predominantly Caucasian jury is going to find him innocent. Why would the narrative be anything else?

[Casper]

Some of the "facts" you presented are not facts at all but skews.

Please enlighten me. You have proven with your words you have missed quite a few facts already.

[Casper]

I don't recall any official reports stating Brown was the aggressor. Could you point me to such reports?

The first official report came out on Wednesday, 4 days after the shooting. Did you not catch that it was reported Wilson was struck in the face?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/15/ferguson-police-releasing-name-of-officer-who-shot-michael-brown/

"On Wednesday, four days after the shooting, Jackson, the Ferguson
police chief released one new bit of information regarding the
encounter. Jackson said at a news conference that the officer was struck
in the face and required medical treatment."

This report came out on August 11, which was 9 days ago:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/11/anger-mounts-at-death-of-unarmed-black-teenager-in-missouri-fbi-launches-investigation/

[shikamaru]

shikamaru,

I have no desire to argue with you regarding facts already well documented, and already decided in court. I do not even know you or what you researched. I only encourage you to not be swayed by the media story line, and review all the evidence. You seem to accuse Conservative Treehouse with bias, but you have believed the biased media reports on Trayvon and Brown, which initial storyline in both cases has been proven false. The reporting done by the Treehouse in both cases have been proven correct.

I myself, believe that a man has a right to defend himself, with deadly force if needed. From the actions of both these young men, it seems they were on the wrong path in life. I believe what one reaps, he shall surely sow.

From your quick response, I can tell you did not even read the articles.

Some of the "facts" you presented are not facts at all but skews.

I'm encouraging you to examine your biases directly.
From what I'm detecting, my opinion of course, is some racial resentment which Conservatives tend to have.
Caucasians will be judged more favorably in equal circumstances and African-Americans will be judged more harshly in negative circumstances.

This is all the halo and horn effect.

Another question: how is it that unarmed African-American men are being gunned down (5 and counting for the month of August in these United States) by law enforcement, yet a serial shooter/killer (Colorado) is escorted out to a police car?