Cop Executes Teenage Boy According to Witnesses

[Casper]

shikamaru,

I have no desire to argue with you regarding facts already well documented, and already decided in court. I do not even know you or what you researched. I only encourage you to not be swayed by the media story line, and review all the evidence. You seem to accuse Conservative Treehouse with bias, but you have believed the biased media reports on Trayvon and Brown, which initial storyline in both cases has been proven false. The reporting done by the Treehouse in both cases have been proven correct.

I myself, believe that a man has a right to defend himself, with deadly force if needed. From the actions of both these young men, it seems they were on the wrong path in life. I believe what one reaps, he shall surely sow.

From your quick response, I can tell you did not even read the articles.

[shikamaru]

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/26/interesting-development-trayvon-martin-quid-pro-quo-at-the-7-11/

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/23/update-26-part-1-trayvon-martin-what-were-the-last-18-months-like-for-him/

Part 2:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...able-violence/

1) Wouldn't a website titled "The Conservative Treehouse" already tell us which way their and their reader's biases lean?
2) Did police report cigarillos on his person?
3) Do you have the toxicology report stating he had lean in his system? Does it say so in the toxicology report?
4) You do know he had no criminal record, right?

I will put this all under the horn effect.

Are you saying this teenager's death was justified?

[Casper]

Trayvon didn't have cigarillos on him. He had only skittles and the drink. This alone shows your narrative is inaccurate.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/26/interesting-development-trayvon-martin-quid-pro-quo-at-the-7-11/

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/23/update-26-part-1-trayvon-martin-what-were-the-last-18-months-like-for-him/

Part 2:

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/24/update-26-part-2-trayvon-martin-shooting-a-year-of-drug-use-culminates-in-predictable-violence/

[shikamaru]

That was already settled in a court of law. There was no obligation to stay in the car, that was a recommendation from the police dispatch. He had a right to walk around the neighborhood.

And Trayvon had no such right to walk around the neighborhood? Whose rights are greater?

Trayvon was hiding in the bushes and jumped him, got on top, and beat him MMA style.

This was purely the claim of Zimmerman.

As the court ruled, Zimmerman had a right to use lethal force as he was in fear for his life. Maybe you have been influenced by the media version of events, just like in the Brown case. Brown was the aggressor, attacked him while in his truck, broke the officers eye socket, went for his gun, and later bum rushed him when the officer told him to freeze.

I don't recall any official reports stating Brown was the aggressor. Could you point me to such reports?

Wasn't the officer in a car?

[shikamaru]

You know how I know you didn't read the facts of the case? If Trayvon was just walking home with his skittles, watermelon drink, and cigarillos, he would have been just fine.

Trayvon didn't have cigarillos on him. He had only skittles and the drink. This alone shows your narrative is inaccurate.

But because he was in to robbin' homes, he was walking between homes and looking around like he was casing the homes out. Even stopping to check out the homes. That is why he was suspicious, not because he was "black". Trayvon was caught in school with tools in his backpack used for robberies. He was known for gettin' high, robbin' and fightin'.

https://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html

You are aware that Martin had no criminal record?
His backpage had a flat head screw driver? Is this the "tools of robbery" you are referring to?
Could you refer me to where Trayvon was known for "gettin' high, robbin', and fightin'"?
If he were known for the aforementioned, wouldn't he have a criminal record?

Let's just say you are strongly in favor of the halo effect for Caucasians and the police and leave it at that.

Take a good look at your claims. This is called demonization. All to justify a teenager's death.

[Casper]

I didn't know walking, minding one's own business was an instance of suspicion. I guess this is more so due to skin color in some peoples' mind.

You know how I know you didn't read the facts of the case? If Trayvon was just walking home with his skittles, watermelon drink, and cigarillos, he would have been just fine. But because he was in to robbin' homes, he was walking between homes and looking around like he was casing the homes out. Even stopping to check out the homes. That is why he was suspicious, not because he was "black". Trayvon was caught in school with tools in his backpack used for robberies. He was known for gettin' high, robbin' and fightin'.

Trayvon got himself killed with bad choices in life, much like Brown. All Brown had to do was pay for the cigarillos, not rough up the store owner, stay out of the middle of the street, and he would be alive today.

[Casper]

As to the Trayvon Martin instance, if Zimmerman would have kept himself in the car, there would have been no death.
Zimmerman was the aggressor. Zimmerman wasn't threatened in his car. He chose to engage. I didn't know walking, minding one's own business was an instance of suspicion. I guess this is more so due to skin color in some peoples' mind.

That was already settled in a court of law. There was no obligation to stay in the car, that was a recommendation from the police dispatch. He had a right to walk around the neighborhood. Trayvon was hiding in the bushes and jumped him, got on top, and beat him MMA style. As the court ruled, Zimmerman had a right to use lethal force as he was in fear for his life. Maybe you have been influenced by the media version of events, just like in the Brown case. Brown was the aggressor, attacked him while in his truck, broke the officers eye socket, went for his gun, and later bum rushed him when the officer told him to freeze.

A source reported that Dorian Johnson, Brown's accomplice in the crime is now recanting his testimony for the 3rd time and, reported in the link below, is saying Brown did attack Wilson and go for his gun. Johnson likely wants a plea deal. Since every version of Johnson's story has been proven false, this may be his first attempt at the truth.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/19/breaking-report-dorian-johnson-recants-media-statement-tells-authorities-big-mike-did-try-for-officers-gun-acquittal-probable/

[Michael Joseph]

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[shikamaru]

Manipulated is correct. The lawyers are the same (Crump and Parks) as Trayvon Martin incident. They are called the "scheme team" and they shook down the Home Owners Association where Trayvon was shot for $1.7 million, and of course attempted to shake down the city for tens of millions. It is a "shake down" racket following the same gameplan as Trayvon, including attempting to get the local prosecutor, police chief and mayor fired and replaced with their "progressive" team players. This is a stage and these are the players.

Principals are responsible for their agents. The agent, Zimmerman, did not follow the rules and protocol as set by his principal. Agents of the HOA acting as watchmen were to observe and report to police, not engage.

As to the Trayvon Martin instance, if Zimmerman would have kept himself in the car, there would have been no death.
Zimmerman was the aggressor. Zimmerman wasn't threatened in his car. He chose to engage. I didn't know walking, minding one's own business was an instance of suspicion. I guess this is more so due to skin color in some peoples' mind.

[shikamaru]

IF this kid attacked the police officer in the manner that is being alleged and went for his gun, then turned and rushed the cop. I would then say the cop was justified in his actions. I would expect that to happen to anyone that allegedly attacked a police officer.

How could Mike Brown turn to rush the cop after going for the gun fleeing from the cop?

There have been at least 5 instances this month in August of police gunning down or strangling to death unarmed African-American males.

The difference between if it were I being shot is it would not be reported hardly at all as it is in this case. Nobody gives a crap about black on white crime, or black on black for that matter. Just my perception. I reserve the right to change my mind as always.

I would say this. Perhaps the media doesn't care, but I'm sure the communities and victims care about those types of crimes.

This instance we are discussing is a police officer gunning down an unarmed African-American man.

I suspect anyways that our perception will differ based on race and life experiences anyways.

[Brian]

Permit me to ask, Brian, if this kid was Caucasian would you ask yourself the question if he deserved to die Judge Dredd style?
Does due process apply less to this kid than to anyone else due to his pigmentation or social bias?

It matters not what content of pigment one has. We should all be afforded the same level of due process. However that being said and as the facts seem to be getting clearer about what went down. IF this kid attacked the police officer in the manner that is being alleged and went for his gun, then turned and rushed the cop. I would then say the cop was justified in his actions. I would expect that to happen to anyone that allegedly attacked a police officer. The difference between if it were I being shot is it would not be reported hardly at all as it is in this case. Nobody gives a crap about black on white crime, or black on black for that matter. Just my perception. I reserve the right to change my mind as always.

[allodial]

It seems rather clear that there are plenty of opportunities in those recent events for the unsordid opportunistic types. We should all be on guard to be above attempts to run divide and conquer strategies against any of us. The St. Louis County Police and the North County area in particular has been quite an example of what happens when armed State actors are allowed to run in predatory mode almost unchecked (i.e. enema needed). Imagine riding down the street at 40 MPH in a 45MPH zone, a police car races past you at 75 MPH knowing a cop with a radar is up ahead. Cop with radar stops you for going 75MPH, you get irate over the matter so they arrest you, beat you. But they all know that you were going 40 MPH and needed the fast cop car to set off the radar so they can make $$um munniee$$. Welcome to North County, St. Louis County.

[Michael Joseph]

Manipulated is correct. The lawyers are the same (Crump and Parks) as Trayvon Martin incident. They are called the "scheme team" and they shook down the Home Owners Association where Trayvon was shot for $1.7 million, and of course attempted to shake down the city for tens of millions. It is a "shake down" racket following the same gameplan as Trayvon, including attempting to get the local prosecutor, police chief and mayor fired and replaced with their "progressive" team players. This is a stage and these are the players.

The lesser of two evils is still evil. I choose the good. It is a fallacy and an outright lie that good and evil must exist together. We have free will we can choose the good - why do so many choose the evil? This is interesting that our Father did not seek to control us - he rather desired to raise up children in a way that would benefit them. Why do the children rebel?

george wrote in a previous post a key statement. TRUST NOTHING AND NOONE. I trust my heavenly father and I am VERY selective in whom I choose to contract. As such, when I am told something it is not true for me until I weigh it in the balance. My balances. What some other man says is no matter to me. It can have no value until I make it my own in my own liability.

I took a student years ago and spent well over two years with him and I was deeply saddened when the cares of this world ensnared him and he gave up the race. Unfortunately he would not come to full liability - he kept blaming others, even myself for his failures - he still does. This is NOT the way. It is interesting that some years later I too experienced the same thing with the IRS that he did - but when the going got tough I put the plow in the ground three feet and plowed them out of my way.

I WILL it - with the understanding that my life can be an example to others. So when the IRS agent claimed FRIVOLOUS FILING $5k penalty - I just wrote a letter explaining what his position was to him - what he is relying upon - and I showed him HOW he would have the "permission" to give me what I desired. By the way, I will not be surprised if he does not quit his job soon or have a nervous breakdown. For how can a house stand that is divided against itself?

He is not my enemy - those that CONTROL him are. But then again they are not my enemy either. They too answer to a higher power. So I respectfully showed him the basis of his arguments / assertions and an interesting thing happened - ALL STOP. I have the faith to tell that mountain cast thyself into the sea. I rely on the promise that I shall have what I desire. Those persons of State are not my creation - therefore they are subject to the ones who created the use. You might say the TERMS OF USE dictate the utilization of the person. Ever register at a website? ROFL.....Ever read the TERMS OF USE? "By making a use of this website you agree to be bound to the following terms of use......" Your choice - to use or not to use.

If you do make a use do you know the laws governing the use? And herein is the problem. Today many of the "front line" clerks in Administration are ignorant as the day is long. So they just SING the company hymn in the key of Oppression. You are the TRUSTEE so prove your innocence. It is not the other way around - the trustee is assumed to be guilty until he proves his innocence.

Finding an illusion or just an idea - I am not bound to that - I can rise above. What then of insurance. It is for the DEAD. I look on to ASSURANCE in the living, in Christ.

Let the blind lead the blind. Meanwhile the Saints will be about their work. Consider now why do you think Jesus Christ would say the following:

Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Mat 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

When one comes to full liability there is no excuse in ignorance. Nevertheless it is sad to see how the wolfs rip off the ignorant. And the blind beg for their oppressors to make their prison more sure. And those that trade in the trust of others play the trustee against the public taking their cut out of the middle.

And there is no hope for these dogs/swine for they do this thing with full knowledge of what they do. Laugh it up boys while you can - your day is gonna come!

Musical Interlude

"Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow, and did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind?"

The Church [Woman] had best learn that her Salvation lies upon direct Revelation from the Holy Spirit. It is that "wind" Ruach - that leads us into all truth. Wisdom she is found in many places.


Shalom,
MJ

[Casper]

Manipulated is correct. The lawyers are the same (Crump and Parks) as Trayvon Martin incident. They are called the "scheme team" and they shook down the Home Owners Association where Trayvon was shot for $1.7 million, and of course attempted to shake down the city for tens of millions. It is a "shake down" racket following the same gameplan as Trayvon, including attempting to get the local prosecutor, police chief and mayor fired and replaced with their "progressive" team players. This is a stage and these are the players.

[Casper]

The Brown family lawyers are caught using a "ringer" Shawn Parcells for their autopsy. Parcells is not a licensed pathologist, but a voice "for hire". But the Brown lawyers were "selling it" as having been performed by Dr. Michael Baden, who is an experienced licensed pathologist. They just flew him in a couple days after the autopsy to agree with Parcells report, but not telling the media Baden did not actually perform the autopsy. They used the same media whore (Frances Robles) they used for the Trayvon Martin lies.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/19/busted-the-mysterious-mike-brown-autopsy-and-how-the-scheme-team-used-their-new-york-times-cohort-frances-robles-to-sell-the-lie/