Why the Angels Rebelled: A Perspective

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The Church of the Holy Sepulcher Vs. The Garden Tomb Simon Magus was a powerful magician/sorcerer from the region of Samaria. Luke tells the basic history of Simon the Sorcerer in Acts Chapter 8: https://atrueott.wordpress.com/tag/simon-magus/

"bishopric" in British English http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict...lish/bishopric

[Michael Joseph]

Is it possible to believe that GIANTS really means actual GIANTS and still comprehend that the systems of control manipulate millions of people? You seem to opine that these two ideas may be mutually exclusive whereby belief in actual events being depicted results in "missing the boat" of understanding.

Why can't both be true? Why be so dismissive of these events depicted in scripture as being actual occurrences? What is the benefit of discarding these events as actual?

Yes it is possible. And in the past, I did studies [attached] using the Scriptures to explore the Angels and their offspring. Said study is LITERAL based and does not consider the other three translations of Allusion, Allegory and Hidden Knowledges. But then one day I thought to myself, how does this truly help anyone today? Concerning the Four levels of comprehension of Scripture, I wrote the following yesterday to the Suitors and maybe it is appropriate here too:




Yes, we are blowing the trumpet now to those who would listen. In fact, now I see what you mean by withdrawn consent. When you consider the triple crown [3 testamentary trusts] established by the Pontiff as Grantor, and you contemplate the beneficiary, it is clear the Christendom benefits from the Charitable Trust. But the builders rejected the truth and settled on an image. Therefore how can one lodge their trust in an image? Once knowledge came, I just had to let it go. Thanks John.

I was reading Psalms 119 this morning and I was struck at the Aleph section and then the Beth. He who is in Aleph DOES the Way. He who is in Beth is building - returning to the Path. Thusly when Aleph meets Beth the result is a strong Mind [man] of the House. A founding Father able to create. A house divided has no Aleph [Leadership]. Comes next Gimel which is a camel of strength. Is it pride or humble charity? So we can see that Gimel means to "Lift up and to Give."

The "city of Jerusalem" is of the One River - Wisdom - God Consciousness. I speak to Jerusalem Above - the MOTHER of us All. One who is riding a Gimel of Pride must first unpack his camel and get on his knees [penitent and humble]. The prideful five sense limited mind cannot enter. This fact is evident in:

James 4:3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.


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God is Spirit. Father is AB. So Father is strength.

Num 6:24 The LORD bless thee, and keep thee: [added by MJ: Aleph]

Num 6:25 The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: [added by MJ:Beth]

Num 6:26 The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace. : [added by MJ:Gimel]


Connected to Gimel is the number three - for in the 3rd day our Lord rose. So we see in Gimel the rising of a King!

Then the Door [Daleth] will be opened. It is the number four. It is a Gateway. the Four: Yod He Vav He.

P'shat - Literal
Remez - Allusion
Drash - Allegory
Sod - Hidden or Secret [as in the Voice of God]

PaRaDiSe. The water bearer is pouring out now - Receive Ye the Holy Spirit. As Jesus BREATHED on them.

Eze 41:23 And the templeH1964 and the sanctuaryH6944 had twoH8147 doors.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM2Oh4pS304

Eze 41:24 And the doorsH1817 had twoH8147 leavesH1817 apiece, twoH8147 turningH4142 leaves;H1817 twoH8147 leaves for the oneH259 door,H1817 and twoH8147 leavesH1817 for the otherH312 door.H1817


H1817
daleth
deh'-leth
From H1802; something swinging, that is, the valve of a door: - door (two-leaved), gate, leaf, lid. [In Psa_141:3, dal, irreg.]

Notice Four parts to the two doors. Daleth is an OPEN door! The door is open TODAY. Therefore the Humble Man who is in need appears before the Door at JUBILEE.

Yehoshuah is the Door. Thusly we BUILD upon the Foundation which is Christ!

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

He is the Door. He is the Aleph which built the Beth. He is the Gimel [King] which emptied himself in Love for a true relationship in HOPE.

2Co 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich [Gimel], yet for your sakes he became poor [Daleth], that ye through his poverty might be rich.

Daleth - Lamed - Hey means Impoverished or Poor.

So we see in Daleth the one in need is offered a doorway of Hope - we are wrapping up the Jubilee. We need only ask of our Father [not man] and an OPEN DOOR will be created for our Father to work in Us. For we can become FULL and being found FULL we may freely give. Therefore Jesus said "of myself I can do nothing ..... it is the Spirit that works in me...."

Daleth - Mem means Blood.

Daleth - Door
Mem - Water

Water is symbol of Truth and Truth brings LIFE. For Jesus said "ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set ye free."

Aleph - Daleth - Mem - ADAM. This tells the whole story. God with Us restoring and transforming as we are washed in the Waters of Truth.

And now we find one who TILLS THE GROUND... [Adamah] - who is a Husbandman [Trustee] sometimes called Pastor

Gen 9:20 And NoahH5146 beganH2490 to be an husbandman,H376 H127 and he plantedH5193 a vineyard:H3754

Husbandman = Ish Adamah

Aleph - Strong Leader
Daleth - Door
Mem - Water
Hey - Revelation

And now we can hear Jesus to Peter: Flesh and Blood did not reveal this to you Peter, it was revealed by REVELATION. As the Door Opened. NOW IS THE TIME - to open the Door - and claim Jubilee in Sincerity and Truth.

So we see a Rich Man who is Proud to give generously to an impoverished poor man. But the poor man mush choose to OPEN THE DOOR. Behold I stand at the door and knock.

We see a perfect picture of Love in giving and lifting up as the Strong Man of the House stands before the door and knocks in hope of relationship - a turning of the nature - from worldly to Spiritual. We are all called to be as NOAH. For the Ark is our Consciousness. And the animals our clean and unclean thoughts and desires. For Noah built the Ark but God shut the door. Thusly the Ark is a MerKahBah - a Light Body.

If you consider the letter Daleth - we can see a Daleth word in Da'at - which is the Hidden Knowledge found in Sod. The VOICE of one crying in the Wilderness!

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So I considered the Giants and said to myself how does that help me today? And finding that it does not help me today, I am more interested in that which gives life. The letter of the law is as St Paul relates - gives death. I am more interested in life!


Shalom,
MJ

[Michael Joseph]

Dark side occultists know this. They know that when a man and a woman have sex there is a connection that develops. This a method of control. The masters of the coven gang bang the female member with the intent to spiritually link with the female's body (in science there is a phenomenon called 'action at a distance' to which this correlates). Then they deploy her as a weapon to defeat the unwitting male victim's hedge. Men who are sexually chaste they seek to try to get them with a hooker or the like of their choosing. The politicians who think they are 'getting something' when they are delivered a hooker are being actually given a trojan horse: the prostitute's nervous system will link with the target male and the dark side occultists will use this to gain control.

It must be first understood that when a manchild is born there is a protective hedge. In simple, the promotion of sexual promiscuity is designed to defeat this hedge.

It is generally sick to me how sexuality is used as a weapon. I was giving some thought the other day concerning a statement one made to me about sexual repression by a certain church. Said one was very angry and as such, I generally do not give too much credence to an angry man. On and on he went about oppression and suppression. After he left, I considered his statements and I thought when something is taboo it is EXCITING. Now if something is "generally accepted" as okay according to the mores and norms of society, then the "fun" and "excitement" is generally removed. So now, reflecting upon this angry man's words, I thought he is a bit double minded. I mean, why does he need someone else to "grant" permission for what he desires to do in his own bed? While I admit there is a fine line to consider, I got a good laugh afterwards. I think said man just likes to be angry. I am sure he would choke on a gnat if I asked him was his sex life exciting.

I think it was you allodial who showed me a book years ago titled "The Rite of Sodomy". While it is a horrible tale, it is quite enlightening in regards to controlling the mind. Furthermore, those who practice sodomy to activate the Jupiter chakra do so to "blow open" all seven chakra's at once. If memory serves me, I believe in that book the practitioners called Sodomy the key of David. In relation to opening and locking doors. Since a door is a gateway one can even see that it may be used to create multiple personas.

But this is all generally sick and perverted and I speak to the man and woman in a pure state without perversion. I certainly do not think of the woman who married me as beneath me. In many ways, she is my teacher. And in other ways she is my leader. When it comes to her strengths she leads and vice versa. There is always that "sick mind" which wants to dominate another be it male or female. Unregenerate is unregenerate regardless of form.

Mind is created - a tool. For it is said to those in the way of being "let this Mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus....who did not count it robbery to be thought equal with God." As such, a River flowed out of Eden; and, it is obvious the River is not Eden.

Regarding sexuality, I am reminded of copulins and how a man is rendered helpless under her influence. It is a fascinating study concerning copulins.

Shalom,
MJ

[allodial]

Phillipians 2:5 is in a larger context pertaining to humility:

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

That even being aware of his own Divinity and who he was at the time:

[1] made himself of no reputation;
[2] took upon him the form of a servant;
[3] was made in the likeness of men;
[4] he humbled himself; and,
[5] became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

It is generally sick to me how sexuality is used as a weapon. I was giving some thought the other day concerning a statement one made to me about sexual repression by a certain church. Said one was very angry and as such, I generally do not give too much credence to an angry man. On and on he went about oppression and suppression. After he left, I considered his statements and I thought when something is taboo it is EXCITING. Now if something is "generally accepted" as okay according to the mores and norms of society, then the "fun" and "excitement" is generally removed. So now, reflecting upon this angry man's words, I thought he is a bit double minded. I mean, why does he need someone else to "grant" permission for what he desires to do in his own bed? While I admit there is a fine line to consider, I got a good laugh afterwards. I think said man just likes to be angry. I am sure he would choke on a gnat if I asked him was his sex life exciting.

I think it was you allodial who showed me a book years ago titled "The Rite of Sodomy". While it is a horrible tale, it is quite enlightening in regards to controlling the mind. Furthermore, those who practice sodomy to activate the Jupiter chakra do so to "blow open" all seven chakra's at once. If memory serves me, I believe in that book the practitioners called Sodomy the key of David. In relation to opening and locking doors. Since a door is a gateway one can even see that it may be used to create multiple personas.

It has been suggested that 'immortality' is being sought through sodomy, i.e. stealing access to a body so they can jump to that body after death of their existing body. If they didn't believe in hell or expect bad, bad, bad after-death Karma, they wouldn't be trying to escape disembodiment.

Left hand pathers trying to use the Bible to justify their orgies (in the sense of secret rites worship) is nonsensical. When everything and all flow of thought becomes deemed merely allegorical and symbolic that placing an order for steak and eggs at a restaurant takes the staff 10 hours of meditation and study--no matter how many Koans someone quotes to make it sound good--something is wrong.

The key of David has to do with command over doors and access to things spiritually and physically. Has nothing to do with chakras and buttsex. I actually met someone who a pastoring elder of a congregation said he obtain a powerful vision of having the key of David when he attended a congregation meeting. Now through the years, the stories he has related: people who wanted to screw him over never could, he always had doors open for him and anyone attempting to shut him out of access to things he needed or required could not. They could never stop him from accessing treasures from God's storehouse. Also, he was able to shut doors for protection too. Proof of concept no doubt.

The Key of David in operation: "what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open."

But this is all generally sick and perverted and I speak to the man and woman in a pure state without perversion. I certainly do not think of the woman who married me as beneath me. In many ways, she is my teacher. And in other ways she is my leader. When it comes to her strengths she leads and vice versa. There is always that "sick mind" which wants to dominate another be it male or female. Unregenerate is unregenerate regardless of form.

Just as a husband's own emotions ought be subjected to holiness and orderlines, so ought his wives'. The husband protects the wife and children assets/valuables. It is the husband's place to protect her from adverse emotionalism and from outside adverse emotional influence. The children are also in the care of the husband. The husband is the head of the wife, he is the most responsible. An admiral in charge of a fleet does not necessarily think lowly of his suboordinates, he is responsible for them and is their protector: his service makes is what him the greatest of them all. The suboordinate who threatens the welfare of the fleet is dealt with accordingly, not necessarily for the admiral's (husband) sake but for the fleet (the children)--the admiral himself is responsible to a higher authority a trustee. Teaching men to lend their power to an emotional and irresponsible being has gone on for too long. It can be rather dangerous.

Its amusing how many teenage boys these days (brainwashed) speak of equality of their girlfriends and equality of women but when faced with the fact that they are expected to risk their lives even give up their lives for a woman (who might be more liability than asset) should she face danger, the theory of equality goes out the window. Many women will look down on the man who allows her to dominate. If equal then you'd flip coin to see who has to deal with the bear that got into the house, wouldn't you? Be not deceived.

If I put A in charge of B, C & D and A yields his authority to B, C or D, A will be responsible for what happens. If you don't think the typical female gets this principle, think again: this is why so many men these days have found themselves raked over the coals with the State.

[Michael Joseph]

Eze 23:25 And I will set my jealousy against thee, and they shall deal furiously with thee: they shall take away thy nose and thine ears; and thy remnant shall fall by the sword: they shall take thy sons and thy daughters; and thy residue shall be devoured by the fire.

Regarding Nose: The nose is on the face - it extends away from the face and thus the nose is as a mask as in it speaks to a PERSONA - and person speaks to office - as the nose is first to greet another.

It is interesting that according to Brown Driver Briggs dictionary: the term "nose" can even be rendered as "face"

H639
'aph
BDB Definition:
1) nostril, nose, face
2) anger
Part of Speech: noun masculine

Regarding Ears : we have two. One physical and One Spiritual. When most look around or read they only see the literal as such they only have one ear. In a sense Peter has cut off the other ear. Peter is the Church/State holding the Key. Jesus heals the other Ear so that the "hidden Voice" may be heard. There are FOUR levels of understanding in Hebrew and the last is Sod - and it reflects the Hidden Voice - as in "my sheep hear my voice" and also "to day if you can hear his voice." You get the picture

Regarding Remnant : the remnants of your life are the special times where you knew love. Unconditional love unequivocal and true. These remnants remain to you else you [we] would all plunge head first into hell - as our Carnal existence would overtake Love and Faith and the truths and wisdom that come from these [Sun and Moon] respectively.

Regarding Sons : pure thoughts unadulterated by touching duality [the white sheep are gone] - Jacob is left with spotted cattle and these are all his to keep [Jacob is the lower Mind].

Regarding Daughters : pure desires from inside the House - the two virgin daughters of Lot. These are removed and replaced by emotion [woman] and this woman is as DeLiLaH - and we see in Daleth - Lamed - Hey the root which means Impoverished and Poor. Thus the lower mind intercourses the emotion and the child that is brought forth is Desolation - Ref Isaiah 54:1.

Regarding Fire: [Shin] All that is left is devoured by Fire = experience. This judgment speaks to those who will not OPEN THE DOOR in turning back to their Creator. For these believe they are The Elohim, and NOT in The Elohim [Acts 17:28] - not realizing they are a elohim. For does the Father need the son or the son the Father? Of course it is the latter. Our God is a consuming Fire.

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Personas of State are founded in the Estate created in Testamentary Trust [Testa or Testes]. Therefore a NAME in State reflects an office. Is it an office of trust or profit. Therefore a NAME is a Way of Being. Thusly Jesus said do all things [deeds] in my NAME. Jesus or Yehoshuah means YeHoVaH Saves! The Way of YeHoVaH saves! Jesus said I AM The Way!

Name is Hebrew is Shin-Mem [Fire - Water]. Baptism is first by Water then by Fire. We see the Earth was first cleansed by Water [Noah] but later according to Peter [by Fire]. Earth is External Man. Heaven is Internal Man [without regard to body]. And the Life is in the Blood [Daleth-Mem] and God with Man [Emmanuel] Aleph-Daleth-Mem [Adam]. For God the Father Aleph-Beth is the Strong Man of the House. The Testator! He who gave of himself freely in order to have a true relationship with Man. In other words, so that we might be transformed into God-Kind [body, soul and spirit].

Regarding Lot - which means to Veil. AB-ra-Ham had to send Lot away before he might ascend. Lot went into the valley [the desert place of lower consciousness] as in "yea though I walk thru the valley of the shadow of death....." In the analogy the Mind is male and consider now that the Lower Mind [sodomites - thoughts] desired to have intercourse with the Divine Mind. That is a homosexual deed. Since the Angels which are messengers carry with them the Ben Ha Elohim or the Thoughts of God the Lower Mind [thoughts] desired to break into the House [Super Consciousness] for intercourse. You will notice that before Abraham ascended the mountain that he left his servants and his asses at the base of the mountain! That is saying the same thing! The lower mind may not and cannot ascend until it is transformed by the regenerated Spiritual Way of Being [A Sixth Day Man].

Lots two virgin daughters are the Divine Desires of God. They are virgin because the lower mind refuses, and for that matter CANNOT, intercourse with them. Notice when Lot sent them without the house, the so called "sodomites" [lower thoughts] refused to engage them in intercourse. Of course this story is steeped in allegory. Can you image being a so called Godly Man and sending your two daughters outside to have sex with a perverse crew of weird dudes? I think, rather I know, I would introduce these perverts to my two friends, Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson and maybe Mr. Winchester! When one sees the story is about consciousness, then one can now understand that when Lot ascends the Mountain and is in the Cave he then can drink of the New Wine and he, as Noah, gets drunk on the New Wine. This is not literal Wine [Yah-Yin], this is Divine Knowledge and Wisdom and Understanding. As in Jesus turns the Water into Wine! For Lot is in the Cave of Luz - Metaphysically speaking. And then this so called man of God gets drunk and has sex with his daughters and they each bring forth a child. Horrible story of incest, until one realizes the daughters again are the Divine Desires [Emotion] and Lot is the Regenerated Spiritual Mind [a 6th day Man].

We see the complete opposite playing out at Genesis 6 where the Ben Ha Elohim [thoughts of God] intercourse the Desires of unregenerated Man. Here now the "child" birthed is Religion or control mechanisms which pilot the world - these govern the mind [government] - and these children are GIANTS.

Thusly the world chooses BAR-ABBAS [the child of the Fathers]. The world is in love with its History and the systems which are in operation. But consider can the problems of today be resolved with the same consciousness which brought us to the current problematic state of being? I think not! So the world [Carnal or lower mind] puts to death the Divine. And we see it in - Crucify Him! The same ole tale - for Cain killed Abel. Abel kept the flocks of God [white and pure] - Cain was a tiller of the ground [he created religious and political systems - a city builder].

Wherever two or more are gathered in my Name - has nothing to do with calling on a Moniker. It has to do with the Way of Being. For a NAME refers to an office which is resident within the Estate. So a Legal Name is a Mask pulled over the FACE of Reality. Whereby reality is The Way [Psalms 119] of Life. As Jesus relates so wonderfully - I AM The Way, The Truth and The Life.... Thusly to be in Jesus' Name is to be in The Way of Being, in Truth and therefore In Life.

Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

We are His children - think about that in relation to The Way and thusly The Name. Thusly regenerate mankind is Mary. And St. Paul said "I wish to present you as a Chaste Virgin." Therefore we Honour our Father and our Mother. For we are his offspring!

We therefore may choose how we build. Shall we build according to the Divine Principles and therefore Life or shall be build according to what our five senses explain - and therefore death? For what we can perceive thru our five senses has a beginning and therefore an end. What I mean is consider a marriage based on outward attraction. It is over before it starts. When beauty dies, then what of the marriage? It was built on the foundation of lust. Therefore it was over and in vanity and is the house of vanity or Beth-Aven. It is "Ai" [wasteheap] and is no bethel [House of God]. Therefore granted God is Self Existing without start or end, that which is born of God has no end. And thusly the Carnal Mind is NOT allowed access to the "tree of Life" which is to say the "thoughts and desires of God".

And if the Carnal Mind tries too hard to break into the House, then it is blinded! It can only see the tales! Like some talking snake or a hungry whale or some strong dude made weak by a skillful barber. Blind indeed. Just as Jesus said "the blind lead the blind - right into the ditch."

Peter is the unregenerate Mind or the Spiritually Dead church. It cuts off the other Ear - for it desires only Self. Showing itself to be somewhat is just a false mask [name]. This Church calls on the sound of the name of Jesus - and thinking to speak a name [moniker] they have no knowledge of the Way of Being. For they are dead in their traditions and fruitless ways. If the church was alive, then explain the condition of the world today.


The woman who touched his Hem - DID SOMETHING in faith. It was her trust in action which healed her! And Jesus reports "who touched me?" For he felt power flow thru Him. That indicates that Jesus in terms of a being did not consciously make a decision to heal the woman! Rather that power flowed THRU him. She decided that she was going to be healed! And she had the faith to act upon her belief!

The more I experience life, the more I am convinced that BELIEF can alter matter. I have seen the power of the Mind heal from far distances. Let the weak say I AM strong! If Belief can alter matter, and I believe it can, then it can alter DNA. Thusly we should guard our mind from the potential of false belief systems of thought [magick and sorcery]. Said false belief systems become intimidating giants which bar the way into the Promised Land.

THEREFORE, Legal Names are for the External man in Society. They can be moved in Charity or Profit which is the choice of the internal man.

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Eve having twins Cain and his twin sister Eve having twins again Abel and his twin sister.Cain was too take Abel's twin for his wife and Abel Cains twin the distinctive incest being avoided? Cain being in love with himself and his own twin being more beautiful than his other sister. Adam being the first priest sent them up to the cave of treasury to offer God there gifts jealousy and a rejected offer Cain kills Abel first fight over the Woman.Eve has Seth the man of renown his sons the mighty men before the flood Adam and his Sons of God or the ones who were keeping Gods commandments and in his favor lived on the Mt. ,close to the cave the place of worship and burial. bellow the plain was Cain and his children exiled. on the death of Adam were instructions to Seth who handed it down to his sons.My speculation is that some generations took the daughters of Cain creating the further Men of renown Nation building was commenced with Adam being buried once again in the center of Earth where the redemption tree was promised Adam was told the tree in the garden holds both forbidden knowledge and redemption from it. Allegory is symbolic to trees its paperwork pulp/ seeds branches and breeding fig tree leaf masks only the conscience it hides nothing.Adam was instructed to use the oils upon his burial same as was used in Christs. questioning oneself within scripture is the knowledge of knowing the distinctive messaging afforded in it why it messages anything one might dream up is the Babylon of ones heart.The serpent or spinal profanity.

[allodial]

The 'secret' behind WWI and WWII is that extermination and subversion of orthodox Christian/Israelite societies was the point: killing off as many as possible (mainly by pitting citizenry against citizenry because having them kill each other is regarded to e 'cheaper'). The reason the surface story can be so mind boggling is that the real agenda has been cloaked: the massacre of orthodox Christians/Israelite. Imagine 5 million vs 5 million in a fight to the death. Historians and analysts offer all kinds of explanations and mountains of books except for the important bit that describes the third, fourth or even fifth parties that put them up to it, armed them, fueled the rage and wrath using lies and deception. It is suggested that "third party warfare" is seldom written about.



There is substantial evidence that pro-Nazis not only were among the British Royals and 'elite' of the day and that factions (secretly?) among the British also supplied the Japanese weaponry with the goal of diminishing (eliminating) the U.S. Navy to the utmost possible. The Rat Tracks it has been suggested primary led to South Africa, New Zealand and Australia (all British Commonwealth areas).


This 1944 map of Hamburg was produced to show which areas of the city would burn the most easily, said Dr Chasseaud. The fire hazard maps are coded red, for areas of high flammability, pink, for areas of medium flammability and purple, showing industrial areas and docklands.

If you get that the "Hellfire Bombings" (Hamburg, etc.) were "new style" cremations, consider for a moment if there are any organizations that have penchant for burning at the stake or cremating those they deem unfit to live. Consider that the Bolshevik strategy was also one of destroying the cream of the crop of a society as part of taking it over and maintaining control. Consider that the Germans were handed over to the Bolsheviks after WWII--the same Bolsheviks had attempted an overthrow of Germany in 1919.

All this misappropriated hate against police and law enforcement (sure there are some bad apples) is exactly what was fomented against the Russian police around 1918 (see Emma Goldman, ala Bolshevik Revolution: she encouraged the killing of police). These are the same tactics showing up today with BLM and SJWs. If I were a police officer, I would want to know the truth: that those mislabeled extremists and sovereign citizens are hardly my enemy.

Anyways, regarding WWII, just for example, consider the following list.

• Armenia - 1.5 million Christians slaughtered (same tactics and methodology would be used in Germany during WWII and in orthodox Christian Russia)
• Germany (Protestant) heavily shaken by WWI, besieged by Soviet Bolsheviks 1919, multiple air-assisted 'cremations' of civilian populations, eventually SECRETLY turned over to Bolsheviks 1945 (by certain factions among the Allied Forces after the war was over)
• Ethiopia--orthodox Christian--attacked by Italy 1936 (Ethiopian Christians slaughtered by ISIS in Libya)

One could also consider Poland and the populations of the UK, the USA, Canada and New Zealand during WWII and the number who died.

I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom. Daniel 7:21-22

Related:
The Fall of the Russian Empire: A Spiritual History (1855-1925)

[David Merrill]

Nebuchadnezzar? But he cultivated the cream for seventy years, fashioned it into his image, and returned it to the Land.

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SS put about 2,500 Catholic priest to death because those Catholic priest
resisted the power of the Jesuits SS/ The History of Romanism: from the Earliest Corruptions
Pastor John Dowling quotes in the Latin the destruction of the
right to private judgment in reading the scriptures and the liberty of the press
is forbidden a bible belt baptist he is no Romantic
but a Protestant used to be someone who
protested the papal power and who believe the Bible to be the final
authority of faith and practice these were deemed heretics by the Vatican and
determined to be killed the term liberal includes Roman Catholics who believe
freedom of speech and freedom of the press because there are some Catholics
who believe that there are some priests who believe that. The last general
counsel which is written in 1845 this decree with prohibition and penalty for freedom of press or liberal reading of the scriptures this liberalism has
never been repealed the Pope today whenever any Pope takes the oath of
being Pope he swears to uphold the Council of Trent decreed that the Word of God was not the Word of God Jerome's Latin
Vulgate the Vatican Vulgarity .My disappointing views are not against Catholicism or Protestantism just the control that any Scrutiny unfolds

[allodial]

Nebuchadnezzar? But he cultivated the cream for seventy years, fashioned it into his image, and returned it to the Land.

I wonder who his heir or successor might be today....

SS put about 2,500 Catholic priest to death because those Catholic priest
resisted the power of the Jesuits SS/ The History of Romanism: from the Earliest Corruptions
Pastor John Dowling quotes in the Latin the destruction of the
right to private judgment in reading the scriptures and the liberty of the press
is forbidden a bible belt baptist he is no Romantic
but a Protestant used to be someone who
protested the papal power and who believe the Bible to be the final
authority of faith and practice these were deemed heretics by the Vatican and
determined to be killed the term liberal includes Roman Catholics who believe
freedom of speech and freedom of the press because there are some Catholics
who believe that there are some priests who believe that. The last general
counsel which is written in 1845 this decree with prohibition and penalty for freedom of press or liberal reading of the scriptures this liberalism has
never been repealed the Pope today whenever any Pope takes the oath of
being Pope he swears to uphold the Council of Trent decreed that the Word of God was not the Word of God Jerome's Latin
Vulgate the Vatican Vulgarity .My disappointing views are not against Catholicism or Protestantism just the control that any Scrutiny unfolds

Both the orthodox Christians and the non-Roman-Catholics were divided into two camps: as to who was going to go along with the Nazi plan (see Confessing Church (during Nazi Germany) or Confession Movementand Barmen Declaration). Relevantly, Pius XI died shortly after coming out against the Nazi regime.

Pius XI planned an encyclical Humani generis unitas (The Unity of the Human Race) to denounce racism in the US, Europe and elsewhere, as well as antisemitism, colonialism and violent German nationalism. He died without issuing it. (source)

P.S. If you look at the USA and UK today, the same kind of division is being attempted. Except they might skip that and just go wit the Ishmael vs Isaac--I mean Islam vs. Israelites/orthodox Christians.

[Michael Joseph]

P.S. If you look at the USA and UK today, the same kind of division is being attempted. Except they might skip that and just go wit the Ishmael vs Isaac--I mean Islam vs. Israelites/orthodox Christians.

I remember when they thought they found the Romanov family burnt in lime - the way it was verified was to get a DNA sample from Prince Phillip. Because Esau and Jacob are brothers. I say to Ishmael, I am Isaac your brother of our father Abraham.

[allodial]

However, to Esau-Canaan, Israel is the enemy and hardly allegorically or theoretically. The inheritance of Ishmael isn't the same as that of Isaac. You can say it, but will that necessarily stop Ishmael or Esau/Edom from doing you great injury? I wonder if Esau/Edom-Canaan cared if the the 1.5 million Armenian Christians were their brothers (ya know, two eyes, two legs, sit down to poop, stand up to pee if you're a guy...ten fingers, ten toes...).


"For three transgressions of Edom, and for four, I will not turn away its punishment, because he pursued his brother with the sword and cast off all pity; his anger tore perpetually, and he kept his wrath forever."

Hmm something tells me Edom-Esau-Canaan probably won't be moved that warm, fuzzy brotherly glow. Met a Muslim who said he was looking forward to the day he could rape, kill and enslave Christians in America (there were more like him then and there might be even more now ISIS, etc.)--that was just under ten years ago. I don't suspect he was speaking figuratively. Despite the kindness I showed him, he remained evil in his intentions.

I remember when they thought they found the Romanov family burnt in lime - the way it was verified was to get a DNA sample from Prince Phillip. Because Esau and Jacob are brothers. I say to Ishmael, I am Isaac your brother of our father Abraham.

As if DNA matters in spiritual warfare.

P.S. Basically the attempt has been to flip the script and replace Isaac and Israel with Ishmael and Esau/Edom respectively, moving the birthright, etc. out of Isaac's, Israel's and Joseph's reach. But, we already know how that'll turn out, don't we?

[xparte]

There is enough depth in scripture to be satisfied for a lifetime.?Forming scripture is both judgment and forgiveness. With canonizing Men and holding scripture hostage welcoming diversity in religious hate is the insurance against forgiveness? But, we already know how that'll turn out, don't we? Biblical helplessness isn't written its encouraged A genetic deficit is in the actions notarized in the word. That fathered figured hate or love. When should your son be told never too play with matches when your lighting a cigarette or when jr lights the house a fire trying to be like dad.Phoning 911 on the homeless isn't a emergency but killing scripture belief is conditioned or bread into us.Eye for Eye is everyone goes blind in the end.The promised land has too be earned and shared. Not conquered with scripture .

[BLBereans]

However, to Esau-Canaan, Israel is the enemy and hardly allegorically or theoretically. The inheritance of Ishmael isn't the same as that of Isaac. You can say it, but will that necessarily stop Ishmael or Esau/Edom from doing you great injury? I wonder if Esau/Edom-Canaan cared if the the 1.5 million Armenian Christians were their brothers (ya know, two eyes, two legs, sit down to poop, stand up to pee if you're a guy...ten fingers, ten toes...).

"For three transgressions of Edom, and for four, I will not turn away its punishment, because he pursued his brother with the sword and cast off all pity; his anger tore perpetually, and he kept his wrath forever."

Hmm something tells me Edom-Esau-Canaan probably won't be moved that warm, fuzzy brotherly glow. Met a Muslim who said he was looking forward to the day he could rape, kill and enslave Christians in America (there were more like him then and there might be even more now ISIS, etc.)--that was just under ten years ago. I don't suspect he was speaking figuratively. Despite the kindness I showed him, he remained evil in his intentions.



As if DNA matters in spiritual warfare.

P.S. Basically the attempt has been to flip the script and replace Isaac and Israel with Ishmael and Esau/Edom respectively, moving the birthright, etc. out of Isaac's, Israel's and Joseph's reach. But, we already know how that'll turn out, don't we?

Couldn't have summed that up that notion any better...

Therein lies the danger of treating ALL of scripture as merely allegorical (though even the allegorical spin doesn't apply in this case). If you knowingly rebel against the God of the Bible and Creation, intentionally make war with God's set-apart nation of people (true Israel) and reject Jesus the Christ as LORD and Savior, there can be no brother or sister in that camp.