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  • David Merrill
    Administrator
    • Mar 2011
    • 5949

    #121
    Originally posted by freedave View Post
    Is the validity of this remedy supported by anything more than the one sentence from the statute?
    Yes. The 'saving to suitors' clause and structure of the districts on the states. If you choose to live in the fiction then that is your state - this state. It is all a state of mind anyway. We do not see a line between Colorado and Wyoming on the ground; only on the map. But you cannot grow a potato in a map!

    I explained it yesterday: Click Here. If you choose to accomodate the district and Fed then your endorsement of their existence under your feet, between you and the land suae potestate esse is published.
    Last edited by David Merrill; 02-10-12, 03:04 PM.
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    • freedave
      Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 70

      #122
      Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
      Yes. The 'saving to suitors' clause and structure of the districts on the states. If you choose to live in the fiction then that is your state - this state. It is all a state of mind anyway. We do not see a line between Colorado and Wyoming on the ground; only on the map. But you cannot grow a potato in a map!

      I explained it yesterday: Click Here. If you choose to accomodate the district and Fed then your endorsement of their existence under your feet, between you and the land suae potestate esse is published.
      This is way beyond my familiarity with the subject.

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      • David Merrill
        Administrator
        • Mar 2011
        • 5949

        #123
        Originally posted by freedave View Post
        This is way beyond my familiarity with the subject.
        Then please try this.

        Validate the one sentence with its context.
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        • shikamaru
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 1630

          #124
          Originally posted by freedave View Post
          This is way beyond my familiarity with the subject.


          DISTRICT. A certain portion of the country, separated from the rest for some special purposes. The United States are divided into judicial districts, in each of which is established a district court; they are also divided into election districts; collection districts, &c. (Source)
          ACCOMODATION, com. law. That which is done by one merchant or other person for the convenience of some other, by accepting or endorsing his paper, or by lending him his notes or bills.

          2. In general the parties who have drawn, endorsed or accepted bills or other commercial paper for the accommodation, of others, are, while in the hands of a holder who received them before they became due, other than the person for whom the accomodation was given, responsible as if they had received full value. Chit. Bills, 90; 91. See 4 Cranch, 141; 1 Ham. 413; 7 John. 361; 15 John. 355, 17 John. 176; 9 Wend. 170; 2 Whart. 344; 5 Wend. 566; 8 Wend. 437; 2 Hill, S. C. 362; 10 Conn. 308; 6 Munfd. 381. (Source)
          Hand-book of the Law of Bills and Notes

          Kinds of endorsement

          This getting deeper into several areas mainly American Admiralty/Maritime Law, negotiable instruments, and Lex Mercatoria.
          Last edited by shikamaru; 02-12-12, 01:10 PM.

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          • David Merrill
            Administrator
            • Mar 2011
            • 5949

            #125
            The Secret Admiralty paper led me to Proctor WISWALL's paper. Click Here. I kept seeing hits on WISWALL's paper but the actual papers were scrubbed. So I called him up and got his wife and a very peculiar reaction... Click Here.

            Needless to say, I never received the paper from Mrs. WISWALL. Her behavior was as though the Bar Association was badgering her husband over what he said there about Erie Doctrine and One Form of Action (c. 1938 in the federal jurisdiction but the Masons show it in 1935 here in Colorado). After our conversation I probed with alternate search engines than Google and found it, as you see linked above.

            There are reputation and other websites where you can pay a fee to get certain hits scrubbed off Google. I think somebody had done that to his paper.
            Last edited by David Merrill; 02-13-12, 12:22 AM.
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            • Treefarmer
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 473

              #126
              Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
              The Secret Admiralty paper led me to Proctor WISWALL's paper. Click Here. I kept seeing hits on WISWALL's paper but the actual papers were scrubbed. So I called him up and got his wife and a very peculiar reaction... Click Here.

              Needless to say, I never received the paper from Mrs. WISWALL. Her behavior was as though the Bar Association was badgering her husband over what he said there about Erie Doctrine and One Form of Action (c. 1938 in the federal jurisdiction but the Masons show it in 1935 here in Colorado). After our conversation I probed with alternate search engines than Google and found it, as you see linked above.

              There are reputation and other websites where you can pay a fee to get certain hits scrubbed off Google. I think somebody had done that to his paper.
              That's a great resource; thank you David for linking it here.
              Treefarmer

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              • Treefarmer
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 473

                #127
                Originally posted by shikamaru View Post
                http://admiralty.uslegal.com/saving-to-suitors-clause/





                Hand-book of the Law of Bills and Notes

                Kinds of endorsement

                This getting deeper into several areas mainly American Admiralty/Maritime Law, negotiable instruments, and Lex Mercatoria.
                Thank you shikamaru. That's interesting about the different endorsements.

                I'm sure the "Hand-book" is interesting too, but I easily fall asleep even without trying to read it.
                This is probably why most people would rather be enslaved than to have to read stuff like that in order to fight off the bankers and lawyers.
                Treefarmer

                There is power in the blood of Jesus

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                • shikamaru
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1630

                  #128
                  Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                  The Secret Admiralty paper led me to Proctor WISWALL's paper. Click Here. I kept seeing hits on WISWALL's paper but the actual papers were scrubbed. So I called him up and got his wife and a very peculiar reaction... Click Here.

                  Needless to say, I never received the paper from Mrs. WISWALL. Her behavior was as though the Bar Association was badgering her husband over what he said there about Erie Doctrine and One Form of Action (c. 1938 in the federal jurisdiction but the Masons show it in 1935 here in Colorado). After our conversation I probed with alternate search engines than Google and found it, as you see linked above.

                  There are reputation and other websites where you can pay a fee to get certain hits scrubbed off Google. I think somebody had done that to his paper.
                  If you intend to dive down this hole (and it is deep), I suggest Bendict's on Admiralty (1850's) as a companion guide.
                  There are also a number of really good Supreme Court cases that essentially give you a compact history lesson on Admiralty/Maritime such as Delivio v. Boit (1815). There are many more as well.

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                  • shikamaru
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1630

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Treefarmer View Post
                    Thank you shikamaru. That's interesting about the different endorsements.

                    I'm sure the "Hand-book" is interesting too, but I easily fall asleep even without trying to read it.
                    This is probably why most people would rather be enslaved than to have to read stuff like that in order to fight off the bankers and lawyers.
                    I can't wait to begin experimenting with this stuff in the future when I get hard core into commercial paper.
                    If you know what you are doing, you can have a lot of fun under Lex Mercatoria.

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                    • freedave
                      Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 70

                      #130
                      Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                      Then please try this.

                      Validate the one sentence with its context.
                      I assume you mean, "Validate one sentence with its context."

                      In a confusing text, I do normally try to do find one part I can understand enough to proceed forward.

                      I am not able to do that in this case.

                      I have found that in discussion groups similar to this one, there is not too high an importance on making the subject easily comprehensible.

                      If the subject is valid, that is a very great underestimation of importance.

                      I had hoped to give this a try on the check have been holding for two weeks...
                      Last edited by freedave; 02-13-12, 07:47 PM.

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                      • stoneFree

                        #131
                        Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.

                        Sir Winston Churchill

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                        • freedave
                          Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 70

                          #132
                          Originally posted by stoneFree View Post
                          Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.

                          Sir Winston Churchill
                          I've probably confronted far more truth than anyone on this forum, and I could easily give you more truth than you are ready for -- and you would be running from it (figuratively).

                          It seems that you're confusing an inability to look at and accept truth because of preconceived ideas with an inability resulting from a convoluted presentation.

                          If this remedy is actually valid and workable, then anyone here who is not doing everything possible to ensure that I understand it, is, to some degree, betraying the purpose of creating freedom from suppression on this planet.
                          Last edited by freedave; 02-14-12, 06:36 PM.

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                          • JohnnyCash

                            #133
                            Oh, do tell. And can you provide us with any links to your handiwork?

                            Redemption of lawful money is working for me; no Income Tax paid since 2007. You may want to just try it, as a skeptic. Except for the cost of taking a picture or copy of your demand, it costs nothing. It sounds like you're looking for Lawful Money for Dummies which hasn't been written yet. But you might just be the author.

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                            • freedave
                              Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 70

                              #134
                              Originally posted by JohnnyCash View Post
                              Oh, do tell. And can you provide us with any links to your handiwork?

                              Redemption of lawful money is working for me; no Income Tax paid since 2007. You may want to just try it, as a skeptic. Except for the cost of taking a picture or copy of your demand, it costs nothing. It sounds like you're looking for Lawful Money for Dummies which hasn't been written yet. But you might just be the author.
                              Thank you for responding, JohnnyCash.

                              Regarding giving you "more truth than you are ready for," I can't provide you with any links.

                              Giving you "more truth than you are ready for" would be a harmful thing, and I don't make a practice of intentionally creating harm.

                              Your "no Income Tax paid since 2007" link is interesting -- I see you have been a follower of Pete Hendrickson, as I have been.

                              My main concern is that if I try the redemption of lawful money endorsement it might trigger some kind of report to the IRS, which I don't need.

                              Yes, if I had a good understanding of it, I could write Lawful Money for Dummies.

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                              • JohnnyCash

                                #135
                                Guess what? The IRS already knows what you're doing. You gave the SSN/ TIN when you started the bank account. If you mistakenly transpose that SS number, the bank will come back and say "that number has not been issued yet." Federal Reserve Banks and the IRS are fraternal twins of similar lineage. http://www.freedomforceinternational...refpage=issues

                                Send me your harmful truth via PM, ten to one you cannot damage me through cyberspace. I have an odd sense that I already know you, freedave, perhaps in a previous life.

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