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[shikamaru]

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Commenting on what happened in 1933 and the change of that act, the limitation on gold ownership in the U.S. was repealed after President Gerald Ford signed a bill legalizing private ownership of gold coins, bars and certificates by an act of Congress codified in Pub.L. 93-373 [1] [2] which went into effect December 31, 1974. P.L. 93-373 does not repeal the Gold Clause Resolution of 1933, which makes unlawful any contracts which specify payment in a fixed amount of money or a fixed amount of gold. That is, contracts are unenforceable if they use gold monetarily rather than as a commodity of trade.

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Now let's observe the evidence in contradistinction to the "research (hearsay)" above:

Trading with the Enemies Act of 1917
Emergency Banking Relief Act of 1933
Gold Reserve Act of 1934

Executive Order 6102
Invalidation and reissue of aforementioned executive order
Campbell v. Chase National Bank of New York (1933)
Executive Order 6102
Executive Order 6111
Executive Order 6260
Executive Order 6261

Default of the Fourth Liberty Bond

Exchange Stabilization Fund

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?494-Campbell-v-Chase-National-Bank-of-New-York-%281933%29&p=5341#post5341

If anyone finds a "Gold Clause Resolution of 1933", let me know !!!

Now ... onward to title theory states vs. lien theory states.....

[shikamaru]

I have my own method of research which fairs me pretty well, no thank you.

No offense, but your methods suck.
You present half stories or only those which support your view (after attorning it a bit). You don't cite what you present. You hardly ever present source documents nor do cover the depth or breadth of the subject.

You missed it the first time and the second time, here it is again:

697.02 Nature of a mortgage.—A mortgage shall be held to be a specific lien on the property therein described, and not a conveyance of the legal title or of the right of possession.
History.—ss. 1, 2, ch. 525, 1853; RS 1982; GS 2495; RGS 3837; CGL 5725.

Florida statutes, go look and prove me wrong if you think I am fabricating it.

Now you copied that from somewhere.
Where is your source document? I'm sure you acquired that off the web, therefore where is the URL to this resource?

Unload on me? have you ever stopped unloading on me?

You don't know what unloading looks like from me. Everything prior to this point was light sprinting.

I was just here asked of a friend to share some information, i did not expect the treatment i got here.

Cut the "holier than thou" crap.

You have posted so many things of hearsay in here and have given even a lot less then I have, you claim you know something just because someone else said it and you call that research, no thank you.

I'm back. Now I'll show you unloading!
I'll have to disagree with the claim that "I've posted so many things of hearsay in here" and that "I have given less than you (motla68).
I present more treatises, citations, and such on this board than you have even contemplated existed.
Stop using the term "hearsay". You don't know what it means.
I see you didn't answer one single question. Not that I expected you to. You know not how.

Let's analyze an example of some of your "research" and hearsay:

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Commenting on what happened in 1933 and the change of that act, the limitation on gold ownership in the U.S. was repealed after President Gerald Ford signed a bill legalizing private ownership of gold coins, bars and certificates by an act of Congress codified in Pub.L. 93-373 [1] [2] which went into effect December 31, 1974. P.L. 93-373 does not repeal the Gold Clause Resolution of 1933, which makes unlawful any contracts which specify payment in a fixed amount of money or a fixed amount of gold. That is, contracts are unenforceable if they use gold monetarily rather than as a commodity of trade.

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Could you cite where I may find the "Gold Clause Resolution of 1933" ... or will any B.S. do?
Where in this "Gold Clause Resolution of 1933" does it make gold clauses unlawful in contracts .... or will any B.S. do?
These public laws... if they are public, they are published, right? You can't find a copy of the P.L.s online ... or will any B.S. do?

[David Merrill]

It was offered as constructive criticism. What you seem to do is tease people.

[motla68]

Thank you Allodial. Believe me I will not be spending much time on it. All he does it would seem is defend his right not to be helpful.

IF what I have given was appreciated more then I may have spent a little more time on it, but if what I have given is interpreted as nothing at all then I made a mistake of posting anything. I had seen the postings on here before joining and I knew it was going to come to this and it did, gave a friend the benefit of the doubt and it happened more then once.. so shame on me then. Like i said all was not lost, a few people did communicate to me from this group in private to let me know they get it. It is not my mission to try and save the world, just a few that were willing and able to give it a chance to comprehend. It should not be necessary to post whole books and mountains of material for the average researcher to grasp the concepts. If someone needs that much help then they probably should go get a qualified lawyer if such beast exists.

[motla68]

Don't run, son.
You are about to receive a lesson on how to research.

You never answer a single question nor can you produce any resources.
Time for me to show you how it's done.

Again, what about title theory states versus lien theory states with respect to mortgages?
I'll give you some time before I unload on you.

[David Merrill]

I am my own house of record, I try to keep as much as humanly possible not throwing out the baby with the bath water. Sometimes there is little details you can go back to that were right on target and you did not know it at the time and also have new insight to old information, this helps to accelerate the learning process greatly. I only toss out that which I have combed over carefully to discover absolutely no further value.

Yes, having and hearing of successes are quite the motivator, especially when one is having a mental block.

Thank you Allodial. Believe me I will not be spending much time on it. All he does it would seem is defend his right not to be helpful.

[shikamaru]

You seem to be expecting a lot more from me then what you are willing to do yourself, for that I cannot help you.
Also you boast as if you allegedly already have your own answer, so why ask the question ?

You win, this ego is checking out.

Don't run, son.
You are about to receive a lesson on how to research.

You never answer a single question nor can you produce any resources.
Time for me to show you how it's done.

Again, what about title theory states versus lien theory states with respect to mortgages?
I'll give you some time before I unload on you.

[motla68]

LOL! Quite an entertaining assumption and opinion about me. But I did not reference any one specific user on that post as you have. There is not hate here, I don't blame the people I blame the system. Technology has provided so many conveniences for us it is ridiculous, even this box here we use to communicate with is a poor substitute for real communication, complacency is at a all time high and keeps increasing. It is just another reason I plan on spending less time on these groups and more time of my own studies that have fallen behind on. I have a friend from Texas coming into town tonight for a couple days and we are going to do real communication.

I am impressed with such things as this one show on the discovery channel about Gold Mining, a 16 year old boy took over his grandfather's gold mine claim to try and keep it going on his summer break, instead of going to get a drivers license he just jumps on that heavy equipment and learns as he goes, even mostly manages the whole place himself. He does not make complaints much and bites his tongue on excuses and just does it, if he cannot do it then he spends time trying to figure out how to do it.

[allodial]

That is basically why you have troubles with other members. If you read your post there Motla68, it is completely oriented on you improving your knowledge base about remedy. It is not about sharing it with others.

Not to point any fingers, I've noticed that The Higher-Level Trolls seem to 'magine us all to be living in a log cabin, wayyy up in da hills sitting next to a shiny rack of rifles with our sons Bubba, Larryl, Darryl and Darryl busy stewing up some squirrel soup--all of us, "of course", sporting John Deere hats or the latest Monsanto give-way T-shirts and "of course" with us being all too easily distracted by shiny things and bumps in the night. I suppose it could work in our favor them thinking that way. In any case, squirrel might be a bit too gamey for me.



P.S. John Deer hats are precious. Shh! Quiet... Bubba? Darryl? Did ya hear that?

[motla68]

No you didn't. Keep copping out.
Perhaps you need to learn how to research.
If you do that, your theories won't be half baked.

Again, what about title theory states versus lien theory states?
Can you answer or do I have to show you how real research is done, son?

You seem to be expecting a lot more from me then what you are willing to do yourself, for that I cannot help you.
Also you boast as if you allegedly already have your own answer, so why ask the question ?

You win, this ego is checking out.

[motla68]

That is basically why you have troubles with other members. If you read your post there Motla68, it is completely oriented on you improving your knowledge base about remedy. It is not about sharing it with others.

I apologize for the forgoing, but it sounds like what they want me to do is to serve up postings where thinking and some due diligence is not necessary. Obviously this is not where my talent or interest is. However I have received private messages from people on this forum thanking me for what I shared and the epiphany that follows after that so all is not lost here.
What I have shared all together is at least 3 or 4 times over the amount of information I had to go on things when first starting out and connecting all the dots together myself. What I know is not for everyone, i get that since even the bible says not all will survive the end times. I guess this is my sign to follow the plan as I have done elsewhere to slack off Internet postings, if people want to contact me with questions they know where to contact me, they can even PM me off of this forum and I will respond.

[shikamaru]

I gave you the keys (reference to cites), but not going to open the door for you. There is no silver platter here, time to man up.

No you didn't. Keep copping out.
Perhaps you need to learn how to research.
If you do that, your theories won't be half baked.

Again, what about title theory states versus lien theory states?
Can you answer or do I have to show you how real research is done, son?

[David Merrill]

I am my own house of record, I try to keep as much as humanly possible not throwing out the baby with the bath water. Sometimes there is little details you can go back to that were right on target and you did not know it at the time and also have new insight to old information, this helps to accelerate the learning process greatly. I only toss out that which I have combed over carefully to discover absolutely no further value.

Yes, having and hearing of successes are quite the motivator, especially when one is having a mental block.

That is basically why you have troubles with other members. If you read your post there Motla68, it is completely oriented on you improving your knowledge base about remedy. It is not about sharing it with others.

[motla68]

I am my own house of record, I try to keep as much as humanly possible not throwing out the baby with the bath water. Sometimes there is little details you can go back to that were right on target and you did not know it at the time and also have new insight to old information, this helps to accelerate the learning process greatly. I only toss out that which I have combed over carefully to discover absolutely no further value.

Yes, having and hearing of successes are quite the motivator, especially when one is having a mental block.

[David Merrill]

I prefer the approach that I will share all I can so that anybody, regardless of testosterone levels might be able to utilize my experience and expertise. The limitation of course is that I have to sanitize private information but I think the readers and members here have learned to live with that. Another drawback is I only keep one or two examples until they are replaced by better examples. The readers do not get to read all the great unsanitized examples that remedy is still extant in America.

I especially enjoy the success stories that come from people who have never talked to me, just been interested enough to inquire here and apply/execute process. That tells me that I have explained remedy clearly here.