More proof from New York DMV that your PERSONAL & PRIVATE vehicle is EXEMPT !

[loveunderlaw]

For the purposes of titles four and five of this chapter the term motor
vehicles shall exclude farm type tractors and all terrain type vehicles
used exclusively for agricultural purposes, or for snow plowing, other
than for hire, farm equipment, including self-propelled machines used
exclusively in growing, harvesting or handling farm produce, and
self-propelled caterpillar or crawler-type equipment while being
operated on the contract site.

[David Merrill]

Thanks and welcome!

Could you please add some commentary to make a point?

[ag maniac]

..... and (d)
all terrain vehicles as defined in article forty-eight-B of this
chapter.....

For the purposes of titles four and five of this chapter the term motor
vehicles shall exclude farm type tractors and all terrain type vehicles
used exclusively for agricultural purposes, or for snow plowing, other
than for hire, farm equipment, including self-propelled machines used
exclusively in growing, harvesting or handling farm produce, and
self-propelled caterpillar or crawler-type equipment while being
operated on the contract site.

Does this apply in upstate New York only....or is this good for the 5 boroughs also?


"Hey Delroy.....c'mon let's go shoppin' down at the Walmart...."

[loveunderlaw]

Thanks and welcome!

Could you please add some commentary to make a point?

Hello David, what exactly do you mean? My only point is that for your personal vehicle there is no need for "Motor Vehicle" "license" plates, or any need to register your property as such. Once you accept that your PRIVATE NON commercial vehicle is used in commerce, only then it becomes a "Motor Vehicle". Legal semantics for the loss of your rights, or if you understand what's been done to you & going on masquerading as law you can beat them at their fraud. It's the same from a Federal level, & the other 50 states on down.

[loveunderlaw]

[QUOTE=ag maniac;11566]Does this apply in upstate New York only....or is this good for the 5 boroughs also?


It applies in the WHOLE state ag!

[shikamaru]

A person may be able to win their case by code pleading the statute while raising the issue.

Aiming for addressing issues concerning law, would lead one to request a bench trial.

[loveunderlaw]

A person may be able to win their case by code pleading the statute while raising the issue.

Aiming for addressing issues concerning law, would lead one to request a bench trial.

If you're in municipal "court" an Affidavit with all of the facts & your declaration of your personal vehicle not being a Motor Vehicle should be sufficient to get it dismissed on the spot. If they want to play hardball, you may have to get a change of venue for county court.

[David Merrill]

Been there, done that. It is the same here.

You cannot show this through the Definitions. The prosecutor objected to me bringing in the defining verbiage through law dictionaries. The judge upheld. She would not let me recess to research the C.R.S. and show it through acceptable methods to the court.

The key though is through Carrier. Common and Commercial Carrier as I recall.

If you could show us through the Definitions within those same statutes, Cool!

It cost me 120 Days...

[loveunderlaw]

Been there, done that. It is the same here.

You cannot show this through the Definitions. The prosecutor objected to me bringing in the defining verbiage through law dictionaries. The judge upheld. She would not let me recess to research the C.R.S. and show it through acceptable methods to the court.

The key though is through Carrier. Common and Commercial Carrier as I recall.

If you could show us through the Definitions within those same statutes, Cool!

It cost me 120 Days...

120 days? Are you serious ? That is not only the same tyranny that our Founders objected to, but it's also a tremendous waste of taxpayer resources to incarcerate someone for financial(political) reasons to make an example out of you. I would never use a law dictionary to defeat them, just their own codes and statutes which are not even true laws at all.

Another thing you can demand is the right to cross-examine a so-called "victim" of your actions, you have the right by law to cross examine any accuser, and demand for them to show you any damage that you did to their physical self, or their property. One tactic I've used in the past is to demand a contract be shown where I've agreed to perform some obligation to them, whch is what it essentially is.

United States Constitution

Article 1:

Section. 10.

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.


Ask the judge, "what contract, and what obligation" to it do I have" ?


Not only that at least in New York state the Prison Labor; Contract System was Abolished !

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Article_III,_New_York_Constitution

full rights, and you're not a resident with no rights.

"Residents" have government granted "privileges", while inhabitants have full rights according to the New York state Constitution.



Article III

Text of Section 7:

Qualifications of Members; Prohibitions on Certain Civil Appointments; Acceptance to Vacate Seat

No person shall serve as a member of the legislature unless he or she is a citizen of the United States and has been a resident of the state of New York for five years, and, except as hereinafter otherwise prescribed, of the assembly or senate district for the twelve months immediately preceding his or her election; if elected a senator or member of assembly at the first election next ensuing after a readjustment or alteration of the senate or assembly districts becomes effective, a person, to be eligible to serve as such, must have been a resident of the county in which the senate or assembly district is contained for the twelve months immediately preceding his or her election. No member of the legislature shall, during the time for which he or she was elected, receive any civil appointment from the governor, the governor and the senate, the legislature or from any city government, to an office which shall have been created, or the emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time. If a member of the legislature be elected to congress, or appointed to any office, civil or military, under the government of the United States, the state of New York, or under any city government except as a member of the national guard or naval militia of the state, or of the reserve forces of the United States, his or her acceptance thereof shall vacate his or her seat in the legislature, providing, however, that a member of the legislature may be appointed commissioner of deeds or to any office in which he or she shall receive no compensation.


An inhabitant of the territory of New York has full rights, and status as a flesh and blood human being. As you well know residents are creations of the criminal bankers and corrupt government.

[David Merrill]

It was "voluntary".

There was an unexplained recess for 15 minutes or so. That is when I should have concluded business but some of the officer/witnesses I am sure would have stopped me or worse.

Since I had not volunteered for jail twice before, the same magistrate (judge) - she had me handcuffed and remanded directly to the jail.


P.S. What I was hoping for is that if you can link definitions describing the distinction between vehicle and motor vehicle through commercial and common carrier too, all within the NY statutory code definitions that would be cool.

I should see if I can find the outline of my argument. To connect the dots though, I had to resort to law dictionaries. It was not my choice. I suspect that you will not be able to adequately argue the difference between private vehicle and motor vehicle as well.

[loveunderlaw]

It sounds like they were plotting against you, too bad you couldn't have gotten out of there! And to think that "we're going to bring Democracy and "freedom" to the World

It was "voluntary".

There was an unexplained recess for 15 minutes or so. That is when I should have concluded business but some of the officer/witnesses I am sure would have stopped me or worse.

Since I had not volunteered for jail twice before, the same magistrate (judge) - she had me handcuffed and remanded directly to the jail.

[David Merrill]

It sounds like they were plotting against you, too bad you couldn't have gotten out of there! And to think that "we're going to bring Democracy and "freedom" to the World

I had gotten out of there so many times before I grew overconfident.

Plotting? I was actually filing my entire argument and the definitions beforehand! You are onto something very strong but I believe (now) the metaphysics cannot function without bonding. You have to take responsibility and as soon as you do, the law shifts in support. So get an effective liquid bond and you can go about your way properly.

[loveunderlaw]

I had gotten out of there so many times before I grew overconfident.

Plotting? I was actually filing my entire argument and the definitions beforehand! You are onto something very strong but I believe (now) the metaphysics cannot function without bonding. You have to take responsibility and as soon as you do, the law shifts in support. So get an effective liquid bond and you can go about your way properly.

I've always used my Affidavits, which first advised them of my status not as a driver using "privileges", but as a free citizen exercising a right to travel which no one can lawfully deprive me of. New York State V & T law makes it very clear that I don't have to ask their permission to exercise a right!

[David Merrill]

I've always used my Affidavits, which first advised them of my status not as a driver using "privileges", but as a free citizen exercising a right to travel which no one can lawfully deprive me of. New York State V & T law makes it very clear that I don't have to ask their permission to exercise a right!

That was what I am getting at - around here, that and $30K liquidity bond in escrow will get you by.

Here, the insurance company will not cover you for an accident unless you have a competency certificate called a driver license. It is all about perspective. How you build identity.

[loveunderlaw]

That was what I am getting at - around here, that and $30K liquidity bond in escrow will get you by.

Here, the insurance company will not cover you for an accident unless you have a competency certificate called a driver license. It is all about perspective. How you build identity.

Alot of people don't realize that you can self insure if you so choose. It's optional for a non commercial vehicle. Please check out the attached document, it's quite an eye opener for those that don't know about the scam being perpetrated upon our state and nation!

No matter what the criminals say, they can't tax(mandatory insurance) travel on our public roads! They may kick your ass, or lock you up over it. But by law they can't hold you more than 72 hours, without filing charges on you. They usually like to break your balls, then let you go. They got me once when I was younger and not so seasoned, it scared me then. But not anymore. They're the ones that are afraid of us, they hide behind tyranny, but they know if the real "We The People" wanted to, we could crush the World Criminal Banker Cartel that pulled their sneaky coup off in 1913. Iceland crushed the criminal bankers, and told them to "shove your debt". So many bankers are in prison over there now, I just love it ha ha.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/08/top-economists-iceland-did-it-right-everyone-else-is-doing-it-wrong.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/28/icelandic-bank-executives-jailed_n_2376345.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/traceygreenstein/2013/02/20/icelands-stabilized-economy-is-a-surprising-success-story

http://disinfo.com/2012/07/iceland-jails-bankers-erases-citizens-debt-recovers-strongly

It's time to wake up people !!!