Arrested for trespassing during park open hours - Really LEO'S, who do you serve ?

[loveunderlaw]

Citizen got arrested under traspassing charges during park open hours. He got a warning for traspassing (in open hours) and he was told to dont come back to the park (in open hours) he said: "i am back to park" he got arrested.

Just to be clear this was not about a "trespass" charge, it was all about preventing his protest. Too bad he didn't have a fee schedule to hand those pirates for violating his rights like that.

[David Merrill]

You cannot fight your way off the battlefield.

Love Under Law;

It strikes me that what you are doing is fighting a war against police and authority here. I would like to point out that this is damaging to the mindset of applying remedy, which is based in peace. I recall reading Administrative Law in American Jurisprudence 2d -

The provisions of the Constitution are suspended in the actual theater of war.

This would seem to be the same problem that people still face while endorsing in the Federal Reserve districts.

I have been researching Western mental models, especially the Bible for some time and have discovered two Enoch characters in Genesis. This is important for developing a correct characterization of officials in authority. Both the Sons of Cain and the Sons of Man (Seth) are protected by Separation = Oath. Cain is Marked (Stigma) as well as those Elected by God - Exodus 13:16.

It looks as though you are just trying to make people angry.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[Chex]

You cannot fight your way off the battlefield. The provisions of the Constitution are suspended in the actual theater of war. This would seem to be the same problem that people still face while endorsing in the Federal Reserve districts.

The history of the world had taught them that what was done in the past might be attempted in the future. The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times , and under all circumstances. No doctrine involving more pernicious consequences was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government. Such a doctrine leads to anarchy or despotism, but the theory of necessity on which it is based is false; for the government within the constitution, has all the powers granted to it which are necessary to preserve its existence, as has been happily proved by the result of the great effort to throw off its just authority."

http://www.thematrixhasyou.org/martial-law.html

"It is claimed that martial law covers with its broad mantle the proceedings of this military commission. The proposition is this: That in a time of war the commander of an armed force (if in his opinion the exigencies of the country demand it , and of which he is to judge), has the power, within the lines of his military district , to suspend all civil rights, and their remedies, and subject citizens as well as soldiers to the rule of his will; and in the exercise of his lawful authority can not be restrained , except by his superior officer or the President of the United States .

Here again we have that term------subject citizens.

"It is claimed that martial law covers with its broad mantle the proceedings of this military commission. The proposition is this: That in a time of war the commander of an armed force (if in his opinion the exigencies of the country demand it , and of which he is to judge), has the power, within the lines of his military district , to suspend all civil rights, and their remedies, and subject citizens as well as soldiers to the rule of his will; and in the exercise of his lawful authority can not be restrained , except by his superior officer or the President of the United States .

[David Merrill]

The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times , and under all circumstances.

This is why FDR had to substitute US citizens for German nationals into the 1917 Trading with the Enemy Act in 1933. He subjected the citizenry as a class hoarding gold.

[Chex]

This is why FDR had to substitute US citizens for German nationals into the 1917 Trading with the Enemy Act in 1933. He subjected the citizenry as a class hoarding gold.

Totalization Agreement with Germany

[loveunderlaw]

You cannot fight your way off the battlefield.

Love Under Law;

It strikes me that what you are doing is fighting a war against police and authority here. I would like to point out that this is damaging to the mindset of applying remedy, which is based in peace. I recall reading Administrative Law in American Jurisprudence 2d -

The provisions of the Constitution are suspended in the actual theater of war.

This would seem to be the same problem that people still face while endorsing in the Federal Reserve districts.

I have been researching Western mental models, especially the Bible for some time and have discovered two Enoch characters in Genesis. This is important for developing a correct characterization of officials in authority. Both the Sons of Cain and the Sons of Man (Seth) are protected by Separation = Oath. Cain is Marked (Stigma) as well as those Elected by God - Exodus 13:16.

It looks as though you are just trying to make people angry.

Regards,

David Merrill.

Not really against the HONEST LEO'S David, who respect people's rights ! If your rights are being violated IMO, you should be angry about it. If you're not angry about being violated when there is no flesh & blood victim then you must be dead already. And the only real "authority" exists in one's mind, if the system fails to protect your rights then you must do your best to protect them yourself. They were ordering him around as if he were an agent of the "state", he deserves to be compensated for his time as the beneficiary of the trust.

I doubt if our Founders would stand for all of the abuses that are being heaped upon the nation right now under color of law by these tyrants with no authority derived from law. And yes people should avoid the "Federal" district as much as they possibly can, you don't really want to be a "US person" with no rights.

[Moxie]

They were ordering him around as if he were an agent of the "state"

He did give them a drivers license, which unfortunately identifies him to be under state jurisdiction....watch in the first 6 seconds of the video, it happens fast -- it's in his mouth, then the cop takes it....

***I'm assuming that wasn't a private, non-government ID he gave them....:-)

[David Merrill]

I believe your perceptions are skewed so as to be useless.

[Moxie]

Why is that, David?

[David Merrill]

Why is that, David?

I am referring to Loveunderlaw importing the recent popular police abuse videos here. And mostly because anybody can look at these videos from the LEO's perspective and understand why it went down that way. But to sum things up:

You cannot fight your way off the battlefield.

However I admit that I do not watch the videos myself. I was observing though that this seems to be the theme that Loveunderlaw feels is interesting and I have seen it for some time that it is completely useless to "YouTube" these things. - Mostly from the websites where the people engage in discussing the merits of what they see on the videos; where Loveunderlaw likely gets these videos to bring here.

I will not spend any more time on it. Carry on. I simply guard my time and belief sets and felt it worth mentioning.

[walter]

I am referring to Loveunderlaw importing the recent popular police abuse videos here. And mostly because anybody can look at these videos from the LEO's perspective and understand why it went down that way. But to sum things up:

You cannot fight your way off the battlefield.

However I admit that I do not watch the videos myself. I was observing though that this seems to be the theme that Loveunderlaw feels is interesting and I have seen it for some time that it is completely useless to "YouTube" these things. - Mostly from the websites where the people engage in discussing the merits of what they see on the videos; where Loveunderlaw likely gets these videos to bring here.

I will not spend any more time on it. Carry on. I simply guard my time and belief sets and felt it worth mentioning.

my 2 cents if it matters,
i think what david is saying is that the forum is not a news casting site,
just mt 2 cents,

[David Merrill]

I think that what you imply is that this is my website - StSC. Somebody registered twice recently from two different distant IP's, selling Passports and ID's mimicking the real document cards. I banished this new Member because these cards are criminal forgery in all Western culture and common law. So you do have a point.

My feeling here is that this style of news, social media based in everybody having a video camera and a large population grabbing a highly slanted clip of embarrassing "footage" of law enforcement officers is an embarrassment more to Rules of Evidence. It makes me uncomfortable and I have simply been skipping it over. My presumption is that others here do too and so I began feeling embarrassed for Loveunderlaw as a new member and was offering guidance. That guidance is that there are other websites that seem to enjoy that angle (perspective) much more than here, judging by the responsiveness of the Membership.

You might have caught a recent post of mine about Oaths of Office. To briefly recap, every attorney and judicial officer connected to a criminal prosecution has their oath of office in order and properly published except the County Court Judge who signed the warrant for arrest! Additionally the Sheriff who made the initial attack/contact has an oath of office found where it should be published but witnessed by this same County Court Judge, who is obviously an active attorney with an office down the street from the courthouse!

This situation is so terribly embarrassing for the Judicial District that we are giving the District Judge a chance to save face and simply seal it up. Having every document this "County Court Judge" has ever put his signature to over the years come up for review would be the logical result and quite devastating considering that this is occurring at the Judicial District that houses the physical State Department of Corrections.

My proposal is once again, that there are much better armaments we can resort to than trying to get people angry at police officers. I do not much care to see it here but you all may entertain yourselves as you will. Maybe having the new website opening soon (I hope) tempers my reaction. Lawful Money Trust is certain to be regulated so that every post will be edited and groomed toward delivering the best learning experience and successful prosperity during this Run on the Federal Reserve.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[ag maniac]

Well, here's a different take on "cop" videos

However, I do agree that most of the "cop" vids provoke anger/fear while being filmed....and are intended to incite the viewer to anger also.

But hey, most folks don't have the spirit of forgiveness in their hearts, so they feed themselves with clap-trap.....we are our own worst enemies

[Moxie]

I remember when I was first learning freedom, how patient people were with me in showing me the truth and explaining things. It's like teaching a child. Freedom is about learning a whole new world. Some people are not patient with children. I enjoy teaching kids, so what seems elementary, repetitious, and beneath others doesn't bother me.

The vid-watching crowd may not know yet how to interact without being a citizen, so their feelings are understandable. It's a learning stage.

At the same time, cops don't walk on water, either. By any means. They too, will be judged at Yahweh's throne, without uniform and gun to protect them. Even kindergarteners know it's wrong to bully others.

And the (public) servant is not greater than the master (one who created the servant position.)

Some famous guy said that. ;-)

[xparte]

What happens 1000 times a day on you tube is Inconsolable and disturbingly correct only because that a juristic person or their grief, is never able to be comforted or alleviated of this self indulgence and not with Video challenged footage of futility in a claim that exists in two places third party paper your charges and a shitty phone clip.Both being predictable when being more unpredictable involves respect and peacefully yet skilful demonstration and declination the commission of said office or its NAME for those benefits in Body i can not Claim .