Abraham & Sarah Never Happened?

[David Merrill]

That's right! Thanks for reminding me...

[allodial]

And so Daniel's vision is shown to this day to be startlingly accurate--the link from Babylon to Rome (though obscured) is bona-fide and historically evidenced (vis-a-vis Attalus III) through systematic integration.

Related:
2nd Esdras Part I ("the Eagles Vision" / CHN)
2nd Esdras Part II ("the Eagles Vision" / CHN)

[xparte]

When the soul passes a breaking point -- and does not break or die. Might be a emotional suggestion that the author of all things God as Christ went not only through agony, but through doubt ?as we must face pain of death and our doubts. It is written, "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Lord thy God may tempt Himself is this what happened in Gethsemane. In a Gods garden Satan tempted man: and in Mans garden God tempted God. I am not being clever nor prolific as its a fair concern of mine that a preparedness or willingness of God is to return us to grace as its not a temptation. A crucifixion was equivalent as any human horror no pessimism until the world shook and the sun was wiped out of heaven, it was not at the crucifixion itself as its common ask any thief, but with that cry from the cross: the cry which confessed that God has forsaken himself for who. find another god who has himself been in revolt for his creation only one divinity who ever uttered our isolation If choice was a thief your as guilty as Sin My honest understanding i equate choice as a thief as Christ knows what was stolen from the thief in the first place.Every one is equal to doubt cause know thief can use it.This speculation explains nothing but thats not why its here.Explanations give rise to doubt [explain that]

[David Merrill]

My explanations are designed for the reader to explore and hopefully find contributions that teach me in turn. The correlation of the POPE's hat with the DAGON of Babylon for example. Thank you Allodial for these confirmations I am not the first to discover the cover-up.

The Doubt that Jesus felt, according to the Gospel of Pragmatism was when he realized that he was indeed being rendered unconscious with the hyssop and vinegar sponge-bath. This was the ultimate immentization of the Christian Eschaton. He was pushing His Place as the MESSIAH by an act of trick or treat.

[xparte]

As one with a resolvable doubt and the author of the messiah to start with was necessary for a greater cover up [Prophecy] Crucifixion It was an absurd and obscene kind of impaling reserved for people who were made to be laughed at...for slaves thieves and provincials and tradesmen, King of the Jews and a King of Pragmatism was no trick and its a real treat To follow God Every one is equal to doubt cause know thief can use it.This speculation explains nothing but thats not why its here.Explanations give rise to doubt [explain that] this statement was me being rhetorical at my own doubts as self doubt and sharing its Explanations has no immentizations Christ wasnt searching for a better explanation.

[David Merrill]

Thank you. I appreciate that you are mindful in your responses.

[xparte]

[allodial]

And now for some entertainment. Or is it more than that? This old song popped in my head for some reason, so, here ya go. Maybe they knew something most people didn't know back in 1989.

Voices Of Babylon
Performed by the Outfield

Hit the message I can hear you calling
No one's going anywhere tonight
We conceived a modern generation
It was free but now we pay the price

We're the victims of our own creation
Chasing rainbows that are painted black or white
Watch the struggle of our own temptation
Instincts barely keeping us alive

Back to the rhythm that we all came from
Voices of Babylon, streets of London
Back to the people that we know so well
A space in time removed too soon to tell

Just a product of imagination
Patiently we wait for our turn to come
A small collection of the population
By the time our number's up, we could be gone

Back to the rhythm that we all came from
Voices of Babylon, streets of London
Back to the people that we know so well
A space in time removed too soon to tell

Back to the rhythm that we all came from
Voices of Babylon streets of London town

[xparte]

London Dont listen to the Lion

Class is just being able to afford everything on the menu and never paying for it. a musicial answer it seems i cant post a 6 min video if i could this is it https://youtu.be/3N_rNz2oAGA Fox on the HILL go see that Fox Christ and the wall builders .

[BLBereans]

Perhaps we need to start distinguishing between the "Roman/Babylonian Christianity" and the true saints as allodial has so clearly elucidated. Having a discussion whereby the two are lumped together by some and not by others creates fruitless discourse.

Also, the historical facts of Jesus' life and death far outweigh the theory that Jesus lived out the rest of his life in obscurity after the crucifixion, in my opinion.

Did Jesus Exist?

[David Merrill]

Perhaps we need to start distinguishing between the "Roman/Babylonian Christianity" and the true saints as allodial has so clearly elucidated. Having a discussion whereby the two are lumped together by some and not by others creates fruitless discourse.

Also, the historical facts of Jesus' life and death far outweigh the theory that Jesus lived out the rest of his life in obscurity after the crucifixion, in my opinion.

Did Jesus Exist?

It took me a few years but I have quit judging my own ego.

If it serves you to make the distinction great.

I know a woman who is into Abraham HICKS - this is Eleanor HICKS channeling an entity named Abraham. I do not go there much except with ACIM (A Course in Miracles) but I heard a great quote from Abraham. Paraphrasing Abraham said, "The sure sign that you are in spiritual infancy is that you are listening to me."

That got me chuckling!

[allodial]

Chanelling Abraham HICKS of course entirely different from being in the presence of God. However, legitimate praise and worship at congregation meetings of the saints put the attendees strongly in the presence of God (in contrast to the separation of the Garden), ala Psalms 100:4 (a well concealed but powerful 'recipe' for intense communion with God):

Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name. --Psalm 100:4

That is to say, Psalms 100:4 answers two questions: (1) How do you enter into God's gates? and (2) How do you enter into God's courts? It is 100% verifiable by direct experience. One does not need shiny shoes and glittering jewels. This is why I would suggest that to really comprehend the Kingdom of David, one has to get one's head around the Tabernacle of David. David comprehended this. This very much relates to the incense wafting up into the Holy of Holies in the temple model.



Perhaps Thanksgiving is one doorkeeper and Praise might be another? Or perhaps the doorkeepers (cherubim?) only allow you to stand in the gate with thanksgiving and to go beyond the gate with praise. Consider "the Lord's Prayer" starts with blessing His name.

Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. --Hebrews 4:16

Related:

• The Treasury of David (Charles H. Spurgeon) on Psalms 100:4

[David Merrill]

I saw a great movie about quantum physics called Tomorrow World. George CLOONEY is grumpy throughout but does a great job. There are two wolves always fighting with each other. One is Fear and Despair. The Other is Love and Hope. The Question is, Which one wins?


ANSWER: The wolf that you feed.


I said it out loud in conversation the other day. But it did not sink in what I had said. All this fictitious entity nonsense is fed and justified by the belief in the initial accusation against God of necromancy, that the God of Abraham would ever reanimate Jesus or any other unnatural (supernatural) act. - And so the attempt to quash Pragmatism.

In the doctrine Pragmatism Peter (BARRABAS - "My Father's Son" was alias) remains living around Jerusalem while Jesus moves north to Damascus (METRO organization, the oldest Capitol City). Shaul is an ugly bald Benjamite from Tarsus who is so desperate for a Herodean wife that he takes on the risky job of capturing Jesus. His offer of bounty hunter is accepted by the Guard but Peter gets wind somehow and runs up to Damascus to warn Jesus. Swords are at a premium but recall that Peter is a violence-prone fellow and has a couple swords in his possession. So Jesus and Peter come back a little on the Road to Damascus and isolate Shaul/Paul during their siesta with Peter armed with a sword. The event converts Shaul to Paul in the classical sense but we also find that Paul spent three years conversing with Jesus. Therefore we find that Mark was indeed a wealthy scribe (able to supply paper and ink) for Peter and with Jesus and Paul consulting up in the Jewish community of Damascus they write the first Gospel - the Book of Mark.

This Gospel amplifies how Jesus was hopeful that even with surviving the sword of Judas, and the subsequent torture staging his death, there might still be a chance for the throne as King of Israel. - Or maybe even his offspring, kept in Gaul (France) with his wife Mary MAGDALENE. So this is why we find an emphasis on Paul's correct feeling that the pagans of Asia Minor (Turkey) would be readily adopting the notions of life, death and rebirth with Jesus revealing himself survived as initially depicted - The Road to Emmeas. Remember? Jesus was incognito, but the two men were grieving so how the King had died (or so they believed) that Jesus pulled off his hood and showed them he had survived?

I do not prod the faithful selfishly.

What I am describing here is the simple notion that all this "being able to sue, and be sued" like corporations, trusts and contract agreements are living PERSONS stems from a justification in rationale that God originally did this necromancy with Jesus.

The "proof" otherwise is by law the distinction between 501(c)(3) and 508(c)(1)(a) in the IRS Code. The first, typical and proclaiming death upon every congregant accuses God of necromancy. The latter, the living church (Pragmatism) believes that the universe is a spiritual and supernatural phenomenon and all existence is the byproduct of ritual magic. The only permanent item is Love and Hope.

Therefore I might simplify the emotions you offer to that. Love and Hope. Feed the right wolf.

[BLBereans]

The God of necromancy... you really keep me in a chuckling state as well, thanks for that.

I agree with your description of the two codes (as best as one can when trying to decipher legalese) regarding 501 c 3 proclaiming death and 508 c 1 proclaiming life. However, I disagree with how you wrap it up. There exists a distinction between how the ROMAN church, and all of its stemming franchises of denominational Christianity, views the death and resurrection of Jesus as compared with how the true saints view it. Proof of that lies in the persecution and murder of these saints by the ROMAN church throughout history while being mostly obscured and barely talked about.

I may tend to agree with your "pragmatic" view regarding ROMAN Christianity and its use of Jesus' death, Mary worship and the worship of the apostles as "elite" super-saints as some form of witchcraft, divination and black magic. It's quite obvious just by observing the costumes, rituals and chanting (in the form of repetitive prayers) in order to make "penance". The modern denominational off-shoots of this ROMAN religion may not practice exactly as the original, but enough of the organization, rituals and form of "Church Hierarchy" has remained. Allodial has provided much insight and study material to back that up.

Does it serve me to make the distinction? Yes, I believe it does. More importantly, however, I also believe it serves this discussion and forum if we claim to be after what is true.

[BLBereans]

Also, the historical facts of Jesus' life and death far outweigh the theory that Jesus lived out the rest of his life in obscurity after the crucifixion, in my opinion.

Did Jesus Exist?

An excerpt from the above link..