To claim "remedy" or not to claim "remedy, what is the "solution"?

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  • motla68
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 752

    #1

    To claim "remedy" or not to claim "remedy, what is the "solution"?

    Someone from our group wrote this beautiful treatise up about our approach to the system in general, at the CS group we encourage others input and participation:

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    Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 1:12:51 AM
    While visiting an Internet Chat room today, once again I have heard the standardized trumpet call for "remedy," as a way to resolve ones financial difficulties. In the "PatRIOT-world," the vast majority of it's followers have received plenty of brain entrainment to seek, demand, and claim, "their remedy," to what ever financial problems or difficulties to which they are involved. The question is, are you certain that this is the best word to use to describe what it is that you seek?
    A friend and brother here on the land in North Carolina has shared his thoughts on this matter, and I do agree with this findings. Upon examination of the word "remedy," this definition is given in the...
    Uniform Commercial Code 1-201
    General definitions:
    36. "Rights" includes remedies.
    A remedy is a commercial right for those who acquire that right through an instrument.
    a. The method or process of solving a problem.
    b. The answer to or disposition of a problem.
    4. Law Payment or satisfaction of a claim or debt.

    5. The act of separating or breaking up; dissolution.

    Law Dictionaries also concur with this definition:
    SOLUTION, civil law. Payment.
    1. By this term, is understood, every species of discharge or liberation, which is called satisfaction, and with which the creditor is satisfied.
    2.This term has rather a reference to the substance of the obligation, than to the numeration or counting of the money.
    3. Discharge of a contract

    So then, "To claim "remedy" or not to claim "remedy," which is the BEST "Solution," for you and your peace of mind?
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    Are you tired of fighting like an enemy combatant and prepared to learn how to live as a peaceful inhabitant?
    Last edited by motla68; 03-16-11, 03:59 AM.
    "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
    be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

    ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.
  • David Merrill
    Administrator
    • Mar 2011
    • 5949

    #2
    The remedy is to avoid the contract with the Fed. When contracting with the Fed was opened, first to Fed banks (1913) Congress had to write remedy into Fed Act. Then when contracting was opened up to the general public (1933) that remedy had to be upheld and is still in full force and effect today.

    I don't think your definition can apply to the convoluted realm of debt currency. It is almost a contradiction in terms - debt currency.
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    • motla68
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 752

      #3
      Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
      The remedy is to avoid the contract with the Fed. When contracting with the Fed was opened, first to Fed banks (1913) Congress had to write remedy into Fed Act. Then when contracting was opened up to the general public (1933) that remedy had to be upheld and is still in full force and effect today.

      I don't think your definition can apply to the convoluted realm of debt currency. It is almost a contradiction in terms - debt currency.
      In agreement of the first thought, we were not part of it to begin with: http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showt...in-translation

      Padelford, Fay & Co vs. The Mayor and Alderman of the City of Savannah

      The judge in the Padleford case stated; "But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution, it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it. The States are the parties to it. And they may complain. If they do, they are entitled to redress. Or they may waive the right to complain."
      ( see page 46 - 47 of the following link for the above)
      The courts decided in a little talked about case that the constitution is private compact and individual citizens had no rights to it. That comment is found on page 6 and 45.


      For the next part now take in consideration the following:
      This particular facet of Document 43, further clarified by Senate Report 93-549, has become codified by precedent. As the Senate began to examine exactly what powers they had granted the President by amending the Trading With the Enemy Act on March 9, 1933, they concluded that: 'Under these powers the president may; seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad;institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private industry; restrict travel, and in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens".

      Keeping the above thought in mind lets now go take a look at the Liber Code again:
      Art. 31. A victorious army appropriates all public money, seizes all public movable property until further direction by its government, and sequesters for its own benefit or of that of its government all the revenues of real property belonging to the hostile government or nation. The title to such real property remains in abeyance during military occupation, and until the conquest is made complete.

      Do you see how the 2 parallel each other?
      Back to the indemnification thing again, keeping in mind about "revenue receipt" as referenced with the COLB/BC

      Liber Code Art. 38. Private property, unless forfeited by crimes or by offenses of the owner, can be seized only by way of military necessity, for the support or other benefit of the Army or of the United States. If the owner has not fled, the commanding officer will cause receipts to be given, which may serve the spoliated owner to obtain indemnity.

      What is Indemnity?
      Definition: 2. It is a rule established in all just governments that, when private property is required for public, use, indemnity shall be given by the public to the owner. This is the case in the United States. See Code Civil, art. 545. See Damnification.

      Damnification;
      2. A judgment fairly obtained against a party for a cause against which another person is bound to indemnify him, with timely notice to that person of the bringing of the action, is admissible as evidence in an action brought against the guarantor on the indemnity. 7 Cranch, 300, 322. See F. N. B. Warrantia Chartae; Lib. Int. Index, Warrantia Chartae; 2 S. & R. 12, 13.

      Now remember we are just going into their venue as a friend to help them settle the accounting with their Persons Account, when it says owner recall back to my posting about Senate Resolution #62 that all ownership of property is by way of the state.
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      When we get out of the way and let them settle their accounting honorably there is setoff/discharge of the accounting. So now there you go we have obtained the Solution
      instead of trying to use remedy, I do not see a contradiction here.
      "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
      be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

      ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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      • shikamaru
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1630

        #4
        I find it more expedient to avoid controversy and problems as much as one can.

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        • motla68
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 752

          #5
          Originally posted by shikamaru View Post
          I find it more expedient to avoid controversy and problems as much as one can.
          I can agree with that, just step out of the way of a raging river and let it flow, all we can hope to do is "direct" the flow.
          "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
          be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

          ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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          • Anthony Joseph

            #6
            Originally posted by motla68 View Post
            I can agree with that, just step out of the way of a raging river and let it flow, all we can hope to do is "direct" the flow.
            I also concur with that basic premise. However, the problem arises when that "raging river" swells so large that it becomes nearly impossible to not "get wet". My stance on that is we competent and righteous souls take control, in our own right, of the "raging river" which is intruding upon and imposing its "flow" upon us INTENTIONALLY and DISHONORABLY. Due to that MALINTENT and DISHONOR, the "owners" of the "raging river" surrender and disqualify themselves from making any claims against competent and righteous souls who either got "splashed" or had to "dive in" in order to save or reclaim their Divinely endowed and unalienable rights on the land.

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            • motla68
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 752

              #7
              Originally posted by Anthony Joseph View Post
              I also concur with that basic premise. However, the problem arises when that "raging river" swells so large that it becomes nearly impossible to not "get wet". My stance on that is we competent and righteous souls take control, in our own right, of the "raging river" which is intruding upon and imposing its "flow" upon us INTENTIONALLY and DISHONORABLY. Due to that MALINTENT and DISHONOR, the "owners" of the "raging river" surrender and disqualify themselves from making any claims against competent and righteous souls who either got "splashed" or had to "dive in" in order to save or reclaim their Divinely endowed and unalienable rights on the land.
              You might like this motivational skit about when things seem impossible:
              "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
              be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

              ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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