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  • Michael Joseph
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1596

    #136
    Originally posted by george View Post
    pretty interesting snake interpretation MJ! you sure have alot to say about things though ;-)

    I have family who call dragonflys "snake doctors" I asked why but they dont know, they have just always called them that. its a mystery.

    Im finding what Kurt has been saying about this subject fascinating. a lot of it seems to fit nicely into this puzzle but he's just another man with alot to say. however, I do think what he presents is worth further investigation.

    I think I see what your saying though. seems like "blind faith" sometimes I have it without even thinking but when I try and actually use it, (this one anyway) doesnt work. hard to explain but beyond ordinary thought. it also seems to work against "me" sometimes (without thinking) so its not something to take lightly this "realm" but it seemed to work much better as a child. (literal, when very young age)

    actually, its always active but theres that whole war going on too so we all deal with it differently.
    We each have a path to walk. This is what amuses me concerning the modern church - they actually think they can save. Hilarious if it wasn't so sad. These are so self-centered they actually boast that they can get the saving done. Absurd.


    He breathed on them and said, Receive ye the Holy Spirit (John 20:22).


    Gen 2:15 And Yehovah God took the man, and put him in the garden of Eden, to till it and take care of it. The Spirit of truth shall guide you into all truth; for He shall not speak of Himself, but what things soever He shall hear, He shall speak; He shall glorify Me, for He shall receive of Mine, and shall declare it unto you (John 16:13, 14).

    And in another place:--

    A man can receive nothing except it be given him from heaven (John 3:27).

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    Yes. A child - innocence. A child can walk naked without shame. A child is welcome in the Kingdom of God. We turn away from God and create fig leaves to cover or hid our indiscretions. We can no longer stand before perfect love and peace. Thus Adam/Eve hid themselves from Yehovah Elohim.

    Before: Gen 2:25 And they were both naked, the man [Adam] and his wife, and were not ashamed.

    After: Gen 3:10 And he said, "I heard Thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."
    The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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    • shikamaru
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1630

      #137
      Birth certificate .... reification ...

      I suspect there are occult roots to the birth certificate or its based on such principles.

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      • george
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 329

        #138
        Originally posted by george View Post

        I also want to add kurt kallenbach's stuff to the mix here as I havnt seen it mentioned.


        more about that can be found here: https://trustandcontract.wordpress.com/
        I dont know how I missed it but Doug555 did previously mention Kurt K. my bad. I may have got KK & KW mixed up. Ive been listening and reading alot from these two lately as it seems they are both on the right track and not holding out on us. I get the feeling many of the others very much are holding out quite a bit but probably they have good reason for doing so.


        yes, reification! thanks shikamaru. I have the same suspicions but didnt have the word for it. my spellchecker is not familiar with it either LOL

        what Im wrestling with now is finding a way to verify our suspicions. I like the process KW suggests using declaratory judgments but that only goes so far. from what Ive learned about it so far it is a fairly safe method to use also. I might follow his bread crumbs to get familiar with actually "filing"

        R4C & LOR is where I would like to go also but something hasnt clicked for me on those fronts just yet but I must give DM credit because he was the most helpful to me in learning who I am.

        thanks

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        • JohnnyCash

          #139
          Is there an unwritten rule that we must abbreviate KW's (Kurt Warner) name?

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          • stoneFree

            #140
            Anyone know what a Kentucky Colonel is?
            And does it have anything to do with KFC?

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            • JohnnyCash

              #141
              No, but I can see your reflection in the picture. Made me so hangry I jumped in the smart car 'n went to the drive thru window.

              Clown: mmm yeah, I'd like an aspergers with cheese, some small fries for my pants, and a slap in the face with cold mackerel.

              Idjit wearing a headset: You want a drink with that?

              Clown: I'd like a drink before all that. You got any single malt scotch?

              Idjit: No, we only have sodas and rat poison.

              Clown: I see. Do you know where the nearest MickeyD's is?

              Idjit: No sir. You do know you're at the Wells Fargo drive-up teller window, right?

              Clown: Well... yeah. So what's your point?

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              • george
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 329

                #142
                Originally posted by stoneFree View Post
                Anyone know what a Kentucky Colonel is?
                And does it have anything to do with KFC?

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                no Idea but there seems to be alot of them: http://kycolonels.org/famous-colonels/


                didnt see Niki Hayden (former motoGP World Champ AKA "The Kentucky Kid") listed so how good can it be?

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                • JohnnyCash

                  #143
                  Says that Colonel Sanders was commissioned a "Kentucky Colonel" by the governor in 1935. Whether it's a secret society or not I can't say. Perhaps they guard his secret recipe of eleven herbs and spices that comprise the unique taste of his chicken.

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                  • stoneFree

                    #144
                    Thanks guys. That's what I was after. Certificate was displayed on his wall like he was proud of it and I snapped a picture. KENTUCKY COLONELS does look like a Mason organization. Supporting the Bankster's agenda...
                    http://kycolonels.org/timeline/

                    And this bit about Colonel Sanders is funny...
                    His legal career ended after he got engaged in a courtroom brawl with his own client.
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Sanders
                    Last edited by Guest; 02-09-15, 08:55 PM.

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                    • edward222
                      Junior Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 28

                      #145
                      Birth Certificate....

                      Certificate of your birth which means,
                      the evidence that you were born.

                      If you dont have one,
                      let me ask you this,
                      when was your birth day?
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                      • Michael Joseph
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1596

                        #146
                        Originally posted by edward222 View Post
                        Birth Certificate....

                        Certificate of your birth which means,
                        the evidence that you were born.

                        If you dont have one,
                        let me ask you this,
                        when was your birth day?
                        Your question begs a framework of philosophy - that which is past, present and future is statistical - an average man. May as well number him now. But man is never average. It is like searching for the average size rock in a creek bed. Lets say the mean is 100 grams, well you might go your whole life and never find the average rock. Man is not average man is ever changing. But the man in mass society becomes a cog in the machine subject to those who keep the machine running. Man consents to be a member of said society else he would do what was needed to remove himself from a presumption.

                        But a presumption upheld is no longer a presumption. Therefore in choice man chooses to become that number whereof he argues concerning codes that govern the machine.

                        We were born before the wind - before matter came to be - the thought preceded that which is now. The time is now to throw the Jonah within you overboard! For any certificate begs a certificate giver [grantor]. Begging the question, did that certificate come with any obligations?

                        Begging the question: Is this the first time around the wheel? I don't know and religion can't help either. In fact if one were to cut open my skull to examine my brain I highly doubt they would ever find any of the thoughts which once delighted and tormented me in this life. Thoughts such as "when was I born" cannot be found in space or time. For begging the philosopher I asked "wherein this room can my thoughts be found?"

                        Man is nothing without consciousness. Nevertheless the men in the Ship will always row row row in order to bring the ship to shore safely - which is to say - my lower conscious mind will always seek to rule the house. My mom and dad informed me of the day of my birth into this world. No birth certificate can replace their word.

                        My word assures my deeds. Consider now the term "Sacred Honor". Yet many will argue within the shell framed nicely as their prison. Yet I find God is not an American - or any respecter of persons. Certificates are fences! Some have made them into prison walls.

                        Regards,
                        Michael Joseph
                        The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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                        • Sealhunter31
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 5

                          #147
                          To Man: "Know thyself, and you shall know the Universe."

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                          • ag maniac
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 263

                            #148
                            Originally posted by edward222 View Post
                            Birth Certificate....

                            Certificate of your birth which means,
                            the evidence that you were born.

                            If you dont have one,
                            let me ask you this,
                            when was your birth day?
                            Tell me edward, what evidence have you that the birth certificate identifies you?

                            And other questions for you....when was the birth of the birth certificate? ....and for what purposes?

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                            • walter
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 662

                              #149
                              Originally posted by ag maniac View Post
                              Tell me edward, what evidence have you that the birth certificate identifies you?

                              And other questions for you....when was the birth of the birth certificate? ....and for what purposes?
                              The evidence that edward has is his testimony.
                              Ever watch CSI shows on the TV?
                              Do they ever go to trial? No.
                              The defendant always waves his rights to remain silent and testifies.
                              No court is ever needed for judgement, just the sentencing.

                              Edward, have you ever seen anyone get asked for ID in court?
                              No right?
                              Have you ever seen anyone answer to the NAME on the BC in court?
                              Why yes, all the time. Right?

                              What happened there?

                              Did someone stand up as surety for government property?
                              Did someone take an "assignment" that was created by another entity and claim it as theirs?
                              Was something pledged?
                              Third party contracts.

                              The birth certificate grants you judicial rights created by man by legislation.
                              These rights can and will be removed to suit the flavour of the day.
                              You are walking around placing value and equity in a NAME that your mom and dad did not give you?
                              Them you claim the property as yours.
                              Them you defend the claim.
                              What a good "surety" you turned out to be.

                              When one starts to claim rights they better know what rights they are trying to claim.
                              You claim the wrong one and you grant jurisdiction.

                              "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."

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                              • shikamaru
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 1630

                                #150
                                Originally posted by edward222 View Post
                                Birth Certificate....

                                Certificate of your birth which means,
                                the evidence that you were born.

                                If you dont have one,
                                let me ask you this,
                                when was your birth day?
                                Who requires the evidence? Evidence for whom?
                                Does the God of creation and nature require a birth certificate?

                                A birth certificate is evidence of incorporation into a corporately organized society.

                                It is the beginning of the creation of an account in which to assess credits and debits across multiple sub-systems of that corporately organized society.

                                This corporately organized society happens to be the state.

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