Birth Certificate - What it is

[walter]

I agree; it is the world that is insane when it values titles, wealth and profit in a NAME created by the STATE that operates in the DEAD realm. Having said that, that is how the system is set up and in order to "keep the lights on" one must utilize the "value" (however backward and false it may be) from the system which converts real substance (man's time, energy and labor) into debt currency.

The option for us is whether we recognize that fact, or not, and see the "profits" and "wealth" of the system for what they truly are - DEBT in a DEAD world.

That is why we of like mind "come out of her", use out of necessity at arms length and make NO claims to the DEAD things of the world.

Interesting you said "keep the lights on", maybe like a Chandelier?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkB5si9oajY

"Hold me when I am down.
Bury my soul underneath the ground.
let my blood keep pumpin'.
My heart keep beatin'.
Shining like a chandelier."

Sounds like someone sold their soul to Satan.
They have a soul buried underground yet the heart and blood still pump illuminating light.
Hollow shells.

[BLBereans]

Interesting you said "keep the lights on", maybe like a Chandelier?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkB5si9oajY

"Hold me when I am down.
Bury my soul underneath the ground.
let my blood keep pumpin'.
My heart keep beatin'.
Shining like a chandelier."

Sounds like someone sold their soul to Satan.
They have a soul buried underground yet the heart and blood still pump illuminating light.
Hollow shells.

I guess I meant it more literally, however, I comprehend your point.

[allodial]

I figured you meant "keep the lights on" as in ... paying the electric bill.

[walter]

A Conversation With John Trudell
29:00 minute mark he talks about "mining".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yuUQzN-G2w

The BC is used to mine human energy.
Keeping the individual human being out of balance out of synchronicity with themselves.

[BLBereans]

A Conversation With John Trudell
29:00 minute mark he talks about "mining".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yuUQzN-G2w

The BC is used to mine human energy.
Keeping the individual human being out of balance out of synchronicity with themselves.

I disagree. The BC is used as a test tool; will you give unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar or will you make claim to things outside of God?

Will you claim, keep and store for the benefit of ME or will you give all for the benefit of ALL?

[walter]

Authoritarianism Law & Legal Definition

Authoritarianism refers to a governmental or political system, principle, or practice in which individual freedom is held as completely subordinate to the power or authority of the state. In authoritarianism, individual freedom is centered either in one person or a small group that is not constitutionally created. Authoritarian political systems may be weakened through inadequate performance to demands of the people

[allodial]

Authoritarianism Law & Legal Definition

Authoritarianism refers to a governmental or political system, principle, or practice in which individual freedom is held as completely subordinate to the power or authority of the state. In authoritarianism, individual freedom is centered either in one person or a small group that is not constitutionally created. Authoritarian political systems may be weakened through inadequate performance to demands of the people

That is why the Secular Humanists / Communists push administrative law and set up private councils to pretend to be lawful government. Take a look at experience in Australia:

Now those who tie the alleged erosion of rights to the money system. If they tell you that since you used FRNs to buy your car, you don't fully own it then how is the debt valid if you didn't actually lend lawful money? You get that? A didn't lend B anything of value but yet A claims be has the right to take over B's company because B allegedly owes A something? If what they allegedly lent you had value then why are they laughing at the idea of you owning the car you bought with it? Key: avoid allowing yourself to be fooled.

[pumpkin]

A replevin succeeds upon strength of title of the claimant, not the weakness of title of one in possession. So what if the destroy the title, I am in possession. What if they impound it? There are only three reasons in law to seize property, attachment, replevin, and arrest. The first two are out, and arrest concerns contraband (notice you'll find that word throughout controlled substance code), which by definition means imported goods for which its tariff has not been paid. They may claim abandonment, but that doesn't fly if you are forced to leave the car.

[allodial]

A replevin succeeds upon strength of title of the claimant, not the weakness of title of one in possession. So what if the destroy the title, I am in possession. What if they impound it? There are only three reasons in law to seize property, attachment, replevin, and arrest. The first two are out, and arrest concerns contraband (notice you'll find that word throughout controlled substance code), which by definition means imported goods for which its tariff has not been paid. They may claim abandonment, but that doesn't fly if you are forced to leave the car.

Abandonment can be by way of abandonment of claim. I'm not sure how one can destroy the title in the sense of tearing it up. Title is abstract...conceptual. You can tear of evidence of title (which can be full or divided {equitable or legal}). If there is further evidence in some register then it might be necessary to remove the relevant entry from that register. The word property is related to 'proprietorship' and in latin 'proprietas' (i.e. ownerhship). The personification of vessels (yes even inanimate objects--even of NAMES) is alive and well thusly ownership = suretyship.

Re: abandonment perhaps this language might be more profound: "Failure to make a claim. {PERIOD!}"

[walter]

Watched the movie "Maze Runner" last night and there was a line in there that stuck in my head.
It was after their minds had been wiped clean by "WCKD".
They could only remember their given name, nothing else.

"It's the one thing they let us keep,"

How profound. We own one thing and we can't protect it. Or can we?

[Michael Joseph]

Do you suppose that one could make a demand for lawful money drawn on the Bank of the United States if one was not subscribed to that bank?

[walter]

Do you suppose that one could make a demand for lawful money drawn on the Bank of the United States if one was not subscribed to that bank?

Well one would have to qualify wouldn't they?

[Michael Joseph]

Well one would have to qualify wouldn't they?

or be an heir by birth?

[george]

somebody that I know said they were born in DC so I asked them what state was on their BC so they checked it and said it didnt have a state but "District of Columbia"

I didnt think that would have been possible? but there is (or was) a hospital in DC where kids are born and then certificated.

I guess that is not good. I mean anyone can act as a 14ther but this one has no choice it seems.. is there anything that could be done about it for them?

[ohiofoiarequest]

.. is there anything that could be done about it for them?

Perhaps they could express a trust.

Now a pertinent maxim...Equity aids the vigilant, not the indolent.