Birth Certificate - What it is

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  • walter
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 662

    #16
    Straight from the horses mouth.
    CEO of Vital stats.

    "The birth certificate is a foundation identity document that establishes your identity at the point of birth; including your name, your birthdate and your parental information. This information is used by other agencies to create secondary identification, such as a passport, driver's license or a service card."

    The legal NAME on the BC is the only one you have a RIGHT to use.

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    • Michael Joseph
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1596

      #17
      Originally posted by walter View Post
      Straight from the horses mouth.
      CEO of Vital stats.

      "The birth certificate is a foundation identity document that establishes your identity at the point of birth; including your name, your birthdate and your parental information. This information is used by other agencies to create secondary identification, such as a passport, driver's license or a service card."

      The legal NAME on the BC is the only one you have a RIGHT to use.
      Framing the statement: that name is the name one is entitled to make a use of within a certain law boundary. If one were to declare himself then one could establish a new name. Therefore in a sense I wrote to the brain trust years ago that I model it as an access easement in Function. Heridaments can be held in a name. Becaus Equity acts in personam.

      Shalom
      MJ
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      • Moxie
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 207

        #18
        Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
        Accept for Value mythology.
        Sooo...

        if Accepted For Value is a myth, then why has it been effective?
        It's easier to fool people than to convince people they've been fooled. ~ Mark Twain

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        • David Merrill
          Administrator
          • Mar 2011
          • 5952

          #19
          Originally posted by Moxie
          Sooo...

          if Accepted For Value is a myth, then why has it been effective?

          I have never believed that it is effective. In other words, for every example or demonstration you might show me, I would probably be convinced that it is something much simpler; usually fair debt collections policy or law.

          One might be behooved to understand how inherently Trebilcock v. Wilson allows for anybody who refuses to accept legal tender for a payment, especially for services has waived the debt. Also there are flaws with MERS and other consideration-less transactions that will cause a bank to back away and cut losses, making A4V appear to have been successful.

          Then there is the pure mythology, people who believe hearsay success stories. It is not worth arguing about really. If you can show us a coherent demonstration that will not take much time to be convincing, great!

          My advice is to study Rules of Evidence and apply them to any demonstration other than your own direct experience.
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          • David Merrill
            Administrator
            • Mar 2011
            • 5952

            #20
            Originally posted by walter View Post
            Straight from the horses mouth.
            CEO of Vital stats.

            "The birth certificate is a foundation identity document that establishes your identity at the point of birth; including your name, your birthdate and your parental information. This information is used by other agencies to create secondary identification, such as a passport, driver's license or a service card."

            The legal NAME on the BC is the only one you have a RIGHT to use.

            Thank you Walter!

            We have the right to use the True Name too, but it is not very functional as a legal name unless people (and especially computer fields) presume one's middle name is the last name. I have identified myself correctly for twenty years now and never been charged with criminal impersonation for not using the "my" legal name. I have watched officials ponder that when I suggest they charge me, and it is rather amusing to watch the conundrum work through their conditioning for a while.
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            • Michael Joseph
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 1596

              #21
              Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
              Thank you Walter!

              We have the right to use the True Name too, but it is not very functional as a legal name unless people (and especially computer fields) presume one's middle name is the last name. I have identified myself correctly for twenty years now and never been charged with criminal impersonation for not using the "my" legal name. I have watched officials ponder that when I suggest they charge me, and it is rather amusing to watch the conundrum work through their conditioning for a while.

              Once in a while I feel we come full circle. CHARGE requires a surety.
              The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

              Lawful Money Trust Website

              Divine Mind Community Call - Sundays 8pm EST

              ONE man or woman can make a difference!

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              • walter
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 662

                #22
                "CHARGE requires a surety."


                Deed of Trust. A transfer of legal title to property from the trustor to the trustee, for the purpose of placing the legal title with the trustee as security for the performance of certain obligations, monetary or otherwise.

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                • walter
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 662

                  #23
                  In Canada's jurisdiction when one gets an invitation to court it starts off with:

                  "You are commanded in Her Majesty's name"

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                  • David Merrill
                    Administrator
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 5952

                    #24
                    That makes sense in context of the Letter I showed, that it is not a financial instrument. It is used by the man or woman by a government grant.
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                    • David Merrill
                      Administrator
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5952

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Michael Joseph View Post
                      Once in a while I feel we come full circle. CHARGE requires a surety.
                      If I liked emoticons I would insert a smiley.
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                      • Moxie
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 207

                        #26
                        Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                        If I liked emoticons I would insert a smiley.
                        I am wondering why you don't like emoticons.

                        Or maybe you're a Mr. Spock kinda guy.
                        It's easier to fool people than to convince people they've been fooled. ~ Mark Twain

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                        • ag maniac
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                          • Mar 2011
                          • 263

                          #27

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                          • David Merrill
                            Administrator
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 5952

                            #28
                            Emoticons just bug me.

                            If I was to pinpoint why it would be the same question we got for homework in Bible Study last night. Is God always angry with us when we sin?

                            Anthropomorphism would have us relating and even imposing lower-dimensional emotions upon an obviously higher-dimensional being. Isn't that simply vain to be creating God in our image?

                            Applying emotions via computers just bugs me, I guess.
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                            • ag maniac
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 263

                              #29
                              "We don't need no stinkin' emoticons"


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                              • Moxie
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 207

                                #30
                                Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                                Emoticons just bug me.

                                If I was to pinpoint why it would be the same question we got for homework in Bible Study last night. Is God always angry with us when we sin?

                                Anthropomorphism would have us relating and even imposing lower-dimensional emotions upon an obviously higher-dimensional being. Isn't that simply vain to be creating God in our image?

                                Applying emotions via computers just bugs me, I guess.
                                You are soo Mr. Spock! LOL

                                To me, a smile sets a pleasant tone for a post which could be taken the wrong way. This is good manners. It is decent and civilized. Like not talking on the cell phone when ordering a taco with extra guacamole. And sauce.

                                But srsly, a smile can give hope and lift someone up, even on the interwebz where eye contact is absent and cutthroat is usually the key signature.

                                But: I'll be sure not to smile at you. I hope I don't forget.


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                                Serious cat is serious about not smiling. Srsly.
                                It's easier to fool people than to convince people they've been fooled. ~ Mark Twain

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