Birth Certificate - What it is

[Moxie]

"We don't need no stinkin' emoticons"

Classic! LOL

[walter]

That makes sense in context of the Letter I showed, that it is not a financial instrument. It is used by the man or woman by a government grant.

I know which one you are talking about but some here might not.
Can you post it in this thread David?

[David Merrill]

I know which one you are talking about but some here might not.
Can you post it in this thread David?

Sure. No problem.

[salsero]

I believe a person is a non-incorporated organization under the UCC Check it out at the 43 minute mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQM6rjkVjtU

[salsero]

However, this can not be correct. It is not correct because on the SS5, it states:

"WE CANNOT ACCEPT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, HOSPITAL SOUVENIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD STUB OR A SOCIAL SECURITY RECORD as evidence of identity." A SS card is also not to be used for identity. Therefore, under state logic, if you take a BC and a SSN and put these two non-permissible uses for identification together - it is magic that you can turn them into a DL and Passport which are used for identification.

Therefore a more logical approach would be to ask the State a few questions [from a letter I wrote a chief judge]:



Of course the chief judge did not answer. There is no legislation that any state HAS AUTHORITY to use a BC, SSN for ID. If the state has no legislation, it has no authority, if the state has no authority, YOU, the man must provide your consent. See?

[salsero]

AFV is an INTERNAL way to help the fictional system balance its fictional books - through the fictional system's authorized representatives - whatever that means.

Here again, please take note: I do not say AFV is not a valid remedy. What I am commenting on - what business does a man have to do with their fiction? This is why, at least I am in the midst of trying, I have done the release of claim and interest per 12 USC 95a, along with release of reversionary interest. THEIR JOB is to settle all claims with regard to their property called a name. I have done my part, NOW they or the State has a contractual obligation to do its part THROUGH its paid for service public servants. When I AS A MAN INTERMEDDLE IN THEIR INETERANL PRIVATE AFFAIRS BY "PAYING FOR SOMETHING", The state has legal authority to presume I am the trustee or executor of that trust or estate.

HOWEVER, those lovely paid for public service public trustees need to settle their public matter [as in a name or property of the state], I do not care, if it is a AFV, or they use toilet paper with US promises to pay US by authorized representative - Hillary - THEY must settle the claims otherwise those public servants can be held personally liable. YAY!!

Sooo...

if Accepted For Value is a myth, then why has it been effective?

[David Merrill]

The only traditional Acceptance for Value is to accept an oath of office, after validation.

Therefore, under state logic, if you take a BC and a SSN and put these two non-permissible uses for identification together - it is magic that you can turn them into a DL and Passport which are used for identification.

That is where you lost the thread of logic. You have involved magic - metaphysics - but magic of your own surmise. You have created a device of your own torture. However, I am expecting that you cannot take what you said and understand what you say. You are involved in priestcraft and justifying the same priestcraft here. You are wrapped up in it.

I will try for the sake of the other Readers though:

Therefore, under state logic, if you take a BC and a SSN and put these two non-permissible uses for identification together - it is magic that you can turn them into a DL and Passport which are used for identification.

The State compels you to misidentify yourself in order to get government-issued ID. If you hear what I say, and understand it, that you misidentify yourself to be a government employee in need of a government-issued ID then you might get why suitors sign their Driver License cards with their True Name.

I understand from years of experience that there is no way to tell you this without sounding condescending. So I am not going to push it - but allow the Readers to judge for themselves.

It should be pointed out though, that instead of simply showing us a coherent, easy to understand example that A4V is a functional process you posted a flurry of justifications under a fiction "salsero". Now you will become indignant at what a closed mind I have and such.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[allodial]

#1. What/who they are out to identify at the DMV is the TRUSTEE thusly associating that PERSON with the BC or the SS account;
#2. The social security card might be evidence of federal exemption with respect to authority to do business in the State;
#3. Acceptance for Value or Acceptance for Honor is done when the acceptor is not the drawee if the drawee is the acceptor then it would merely be acceptance.

[David Merrill]

#1. What/who they are out to identify at the DMV is the TRUSTEE thusly associating that PERSON with the BC or the SS account;
#2. The social security card might be evidence of federal exemption with respect to authority to do business in the State;
#3. Acceptance for Value or Acceptance for Honor is done when the acceptor is not the drawee if the drawee is the acceptor then it would merely be acceptance.

I am uncertain if you are posing questions or not.

The IN GOD WE TRUST Trust on money assures value in a trust. The officials under a tenet of monotheism swear in and validate the office before that same God. Therefore the Oath of Office may be accepted for value as notice that violations of the bills of rights will be met by a bill of indictment.

Traditionally also is that upon proof of this violation of statute (constitutions) the official is without judicial or sovereign immunity and becomes personally liable.

Above in my post I must admit I came against Boris/A4V acutely simply because I have wanted to see some good examples of successful A4V, and have only collected a few myself. In all fairness I should disclose a certain perspective that cuts through the dross of fashioning a formidable Bill of Indictment through a grand jury, in a system that will tend to protect its own officials.

Instead of a Bill of Indictment my heritage as a Patroon allows me simple billing process through access to the Municipal CODE as old as the Levite Priesthood itself, called waiver of tort[/URL].

1Ch 6:54 Now these are their dwelling places throughout their castles in their coasts, of the sons of Aaron, of the families of the Kohathites: for theirs was the lot.
1Ch 6:55 And they gave them Hebron in the land of Judah, and the suburbs thereof round about it.
1Ch 6:56 But the fields of the city, and the villages thereof, they gave to Caleb the son of Jephunneh.
1Ch 6:57 And to the sons of Aaron they gave the cities of Judah, namely, Hebron, the city of refuge, and Libnah with her suburbs, and Jattir, and Eshtemoa, with their suburbs,
1Ch 6:58 And Hilen with her suburbs, Debir with her suburbs,

This is why I say it seems condescending. I refer to a specific bloodline when this is simply how I was able to see the redemption heritage through my own example and demonstration. I am not special.

My point specifically is that there may be other instances where Treasury monies are available through Acceptance for Value. It just becomes frustrating over the years waiting for somebody to come up with good examples that are easy to verify as reproducible.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[allodial]

The reason most people can't produce practical results is because they wont bother studying the underlying law and principles of say banking law, commercial law, etc. Lack of practical knowledge lack of practical results. They think its all secret when much of it is found in law books that are freely available in most any major US city even free online via books.google.com. Sure sure, they can stuff an envelop, stamp something, sign a form provided by someone else but beyond that.... I'm not sure if its laziness or what. I recall how it seemed for a decade like you and I were the only ones that could actually find a library and a scanner.

[David Merrill]

I recall Isaac of the Bible, ascending peaks of higher dimensional Mosaic thought, meeting God in the Fourth Dimension and beyond, introducing to the layman (not the initiate) genetic engineering. Remember that? He was discovering the dihybrid cross but as I see it, he was expressing his transcendence of time! He was able to see how time en-capsules all other dimensions of the space-time continuum.

He probably studied the Torah quite a bit in preparation for that.

[allodial]

Perhaps some people have to find themselves in a 'situation' undesirable enough to bother seeking elevation. Until then they blame others or remain just another co-abusive fork-stabber-in-a-mosh-pit brick in the wall? Perhaps taking interests in things of interest to God puts one on a frequency that opens the possibility for communication with God?

God is a rewarder of those who dilligently seek him...

Ah perhaps one has to have God or things of interest to God on one's mind first?

He probably studied the Torah quite a bit in preparation for that.

Probably. Common interest, common 'meeting ground'.

[Moxie]

As for me, I've never done Accepted for Value, but have been studying to see how it's different or the same as Boris' process. So, no A4V examples to post, sorry.

[salsero]

David are you for real? I have heard your audios and you come across as intelligent - after what you just wrote, I am beginning to wonder? Is this how you interpreted what I wrote? Did you read the whole reply?

I have no issue about USING their fiction. There is little other option if one wants to live among society. If you want to intermeddle in their affairs, go for it.

The only traditional Acceptance for Value is to accept an oath of office, after validation.

I do not involve magic - THEY involve magic. The SS5 form is not mine, it is theirs. It is THEIR logic, not mine. I am not wrapped into their stuff at all. There mere fact that I breath on Planet Earth involves - to some degree - PLAYING a part in the illusion or in the world but not of the world.

That is where you lost the thread of logic. You have involved magic - metaphysics - but magic of your own surmise. You have created a device of your own torture. However, I am expecting that you cannot take what you said and understand what you say. You are involved in priestcraft and justifying the same priestcraft here. You are wrapped up in it.

I will try for the sake of the other Readers though:

The state compels no one to do anything. Everything must be done by free will and therefore by consent. I do not disagree that a man CAN misidentify himself to be a fiction IF he so claims to be that fiction. Man has every right to use that fiction in order to do commerce WITHOUT liability. Agree or disagree - I really do not care.

Since I do not take what you say personally, you can tell me off, F-U, or anything else your little ol' heart desires, why would I look at anyone's comments as condescending? I thought we are adults attempting to offer constructive OPINIONS or alternatives that may resonate better for some. This peaceful inhabitant concept is really not for everyone.

If you read what I really wrote instead of interpreting what I wrote, you may have had a different opinion on me in supplying a coherent AFV method. Again, I did not say it was an invalid remedy. FOR ME, I do not subscribe to it for the reason that is part of THEIR system for them to help balance out their books - if this could ever be done. My take on "remedy" is to separate man from fiction. This does not equate to man not USING fiction JUST not making claims to be that fiction. In my opinion, if you as a man begin to ACT as an employee of the State, then the State has legal authority to presume you to be an UNAUTHORIZED AGENT of the State, therefore intermeddling in State affairs. Even the 12 USC 411 makes you an agent for the state - as who uses statutes? Persons.

I GET that it may not make sense to some - but in my opinion - the key to remedy is completely separating man and fiction. Man has been left spoliated without any way to pay a debt OR even means to "own" anything - it only appears he owns something or pays a debt - this is not legally factual. This is the system. Since the system SEIZED, took, stole, confiscated by military necessity - the system authorized itself. Even under the rules of war, the system MUST act in honor. The Lieber Code, Hague, Law of Nations, etc have protocol that must be followed.

Again David, either 1. You do not understand what I write 2. It does not resonate with you 3. You are a government agent or 4 whatever. If you prefer I no longer comment on your blog - please let me know, and I will stop. I do not want to upset you or anyone else.

The State compels you to misidentify yourself in order to get government-issued ID. If you hear what I say, and understand it, that you misidentify yourself to be a government employee in need of a government-issued ID then you might get why suitors sign their Driver License cards with their True Name.

I understand from years of experience that there is no way to tell you this without sounding condescending. So I am not going to push it - but allow the Readers to judge for themselves.

It should be pointed out though, that instead of simply showing us a coherent, easy to understand example that A4V is a functional process you posted a flurry of justifications under a fiction "salsero". Now you will become indignant at what a closed mind I have and such.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[salsero]

I am uncertain if you are posing questions or not.

The IN GOD WE TRUST Trust on money assures value in a trust. The officials under a tenet of monotheism swear in and validate the office before that same God. Therefore the Oath of Office may be accepted for value as notice that violations of the bills of rights will be met by a bill of indictment.

Traditionally also is that upon proof of this violation of statute (constitutions) the official is without judicial or sovereign immunity and becomes personally liable.

Above in my post I must admit I came against Boris/A4V acutely simply because I have wanted to see some good examples of successful A4V, and have only collected a few myself. In all fairness I should disclose a certain perspective that cuts through the dross of fashioning a formidable Bill of Indictment through a grand jury, in a system that will tend to protect its own officials.

Instead of a Bill of Indictment my heritage as a Patroon allows me simple billing process through access to the Municipal CODE as old as the Levite Priesthood itself, called waiver of tort[/URL].





This is why I say it seems condescending. I refer to a specific bloodline when this is simply how I was able to see the redemption heritage through my own example and demonstration. I am not special.

My point specifically is that there may be other instances where Treasury monies are available through Acceptance for Value. It just becomes frustrating over the years waiting for somebody to come up with good examples that are easy to verify as reproducible.


Regards,

David Merrill.