DL was NOT provided or used as ID

[Frederick Burrell]

David Said "The states have uniform legislation about Last Registered Owner."

Meaning what David? That does not tell me a lot. Can you explain.

Still waiting for my invitation to visit them. Nothing yet.

I actually tried to pay them for my registration, but it was within 30 days of the expiration of one year without registration,so they wanted me to pay for this year also(two years total). A year which I will not be in the US.This transpired after I had handed her the plates. So I declined the offer to pay for the two years. The Nice lady excepted the plates and handed me the bill for two years. I told her I didn't want to pay for the two years as I would be out of the country. She then tried to return my plates. I declined. She threated to call the police, I left. She accepted the plates with no conditions and then tried to put a condition on receiving them. I will deal with it in a year form now. One way or another. fB

[Michael Joseph]

Come on, that John Doe CRAP is too easy to overcome with this:

"On and for the Record, Identify the John DOE you are charging."

Answer: "YOU", sorry, John DOE is not YOU, nor am I a YOU, repeat the demand for IDENTIFICATION.

"They" cannot IDENTIFY anyone, anymore than anyone can IDENTIFY their "self".

You should know this, a John DOE warrant means NOTHING, it means, the SUSPECT cannot be IDENTIFIED and unless and until someone claims to be or to know, John DOE, the warrant sits idol, as worthless as the paper it is written on.

I know of several John/Jane DOE warrants for murder that can never be served until and unless an eye witness or confession is obtained.

One thing that always amazed me when I was a police officer was how many dead human bodies are found every day that were never IDENTIFIED. I would say JOHN and JANE DOE bodies are found every day in big cities and never, ever attached to an IDENTITY, why should or how could a living body be attached to any identity and PROVEN true?

No body has the right or power to IDENTIFY me, even as a John DOE, nor do I have to accept any title they offer, Mister, Sir, Citizen, et al.

It is impossible.

I am glad you responded like this because actually that John Doe crap cannot be easily overcome if JOHN DOE is constructed and a man stands before the Court arguing with the Trustee.

A competent man knows better than to do that. So you are correct in a sense if a new Trust is Constructed - so be it. I am not Trustee your honor - therefore I will not usurp that office. And I have no claim in Ownership of the new Express Trust you just created so I cannot be your fiduciary. I can however help you today. Do you require my assistance to help you settle your books?

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martin earl. Identity is impossible to obtain. You are correct.

To the dead bodies and identity - When helping a friend bury his loved one we were met by a State official with some document at the bottom of the document was place for witness. Upon reading the document carefully we realized this is the commercial Survey in order to close the Cestui Que Trust. Meaning the authorized User = Usufruct is now dead.

I am reminded of this Scripture:

Luk 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

Luk 11:53 And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things:

Luk 11:54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.

[David Merrill]

I already said that I can positively identify you! I do it in an instant though:



We have machines that can do that too - but they take a few days if you pay expedition fees.

And Frederick Burrell;


The states have uniform legislation about Last Registered Owner.

[Frederick Burrell]

My registry exspired with the state. So I guess my vehicle is no longer in their registry. Oh and by the way I did not register the vehicle with the state. Someone else did. They do have a tendency to get upset with cars on the road with no registration. Hmmm. If there was a survey done on you when you were born, and one done on the car when it was made, you are not the survey and neither is the car. So how does that work again. Not claiming the name. The survey is there property, are you the survey, is your car the survey. hmmm. fB

[Michael Joseph]

Originally Posted by Michael Joseph
The State does not Claim Ownership the State becomes Trustee because YOU registered that Vehicle upon the State Asset Registry. I know, you did it by necessity right? And so what if you paid lawful money to perform the Registry. How does that make a rat's ARSE of a difference. You REGISTERED that Vehicle in the Name of a Cestui Que Trust. What name you choose matters not. It is CQT because it is now Registered Owner as Beneficiary and the State as Trustee.

And the Trustee with powers now of management will ensure that the State tags go on ITS vehicle and the State registration will be associated with ITS vehicle and the State......

The Right-of-way is the Claim you speak of. That Right comes from a Survey, then Registration of the Plat, and then Claim. And it is a valid Claim.

Answer this question and perhaps it will help you to see better: Is money WITHIN the United States - "tangible or intangible" Property. Before you jump the gun - what is Property again. It is the "Right of Use".

I think that as Heir and Son of the Ever Living that I need not the State to help me do an impossible thing - identify myself. As such, if I cannot identify myself, then what of Registration?

Then who are the beneficiary principals that this "trust" was set up for? In other words, all this "trusteeship" is for the benefit of some peoples who are the heirs to this fortune, correct? This will lead us back to the discussion of the original signors of the "unanimous Declaration..." Not convinced of that yet, and even if that were true, the dishonor, deception and usurpation required to maintain and grow this "USA TRUST" disqualifies that claim from the position of that trust structure and we who make claims upon the Holy and Divine Trust have SUPERIOR standing and HIGHEST TITLE over the land, dominions and possessions we hold and claim in His Name and under His Trust as stewards and husbandmen of the earth.

You have a way of cutting right to the heart of the matter and I like that.

You see there are a couple of Trusts running at the Same time. If in fact you are one who goes and Registers "Rights of Use" [Property] upon a State Registry. That makes YOU "First Grantor". Then there are both the Federal Reserve Districts [FRD's] and US Districts [USD's] - overlays. Now Metro has a Trustee in the Military. Lieber Code. Does not METRO and STATE police wear Military insignia? Therefore you, a living soul, Register the Vehicle in Cestui Que Trust on the State Registry. So then if the State is willing to pick up the Trusteeship, which they are; Let them.

Of course the trust requires that you carry a competency card [for the newbiew a DL] - but for the older ones no license is required - you are Not in FRD's are you? I hope not. "Demand is made for lawful money per 12USCA411" - that is if you need a checking account. That puts you in another Survey WITHIN the United States.

To be Clear - a Drivers [License] Card is required; it is just that if you make a demand for lawful money and use lawful money you really are using that DL for competency purposes. The ID is for the Person - CQVT. Not you, as man. Continuing....

Now the Civil Side of the United States is run by President; the Military Side is run by the Commander in Chief, as Trustee.

So if there are any presentments [charges upon the CQT] the Trustee is duty bound to discharge the charge - unless there is "Trustee de son Tort". This is "Commercially Sensitive Information".

This is a totally different model than R4C. This recognizes the trust exists; recognizes who the players are; recognizes who you are; you are without this Trust, right? I hope so. So the State benefits by you helping as Envoy, friend, whatever to "help".

You want paperwork right? There is none. There is only comprehension of the Person and the Trust parties. Who is Trustee, Who is Beneficiary and who are you? If you are w/o this Trust; as Usufruct; then act like it. Help out where you can.

The Trust is perfected; you just have to learn how to use it; OR, go and create your own Independent State. There is already a new State that has EXACTLY the same Claim on Exactly the Same Territory as the United States and the US met the founders with honor. I can already hear that old tired argument 'state within a state'.

Think of the US and the New Independent State on an x,y,z coordinate system. The US is at z coordinate 1; the new State is at z coordinate 2; they both share the x,y space.

But the latter is not an easy task so it is not practical. The former is an easy task; just takes some reprogramming and a lot of study.

Of course you have superior standing in the Divine; yet the Divine said "do not trespass against your neighbor". [even if he is one ignorant son of a gun - I jest]

The State has established R/W [right-of-way] based on Survey. Are you in that Survey? The Vehicle is, it is Registered in the State. Was it in CQVT or was it a CQT? Meaning did you register in LEGAL NAME or New Trust Creation (NTC)? NTC is still CQT as it is beneficiary and State is Trustee for the PROPERTY.

And property again is "Right of Use". Now, who are you again? Do you see now? Will you let the Trustee do his job or will you interfere with their process? You may incur a fine if you interfere.

12_U.S._Op._Atty._Gen._182_1867.pdf


Lieber Code - General Orders No. 100

The State does not Claim Ownership the State becomes Trustee because YOU registered that Vehicle upon the State Asset Registry. I know, you did it by necessity right? And so what if you paid lawful money to perform the Registry. How does that make a rat's ARSE of a difference. You REGISTERED that Vehicle in the Name of a Cestui Que Trust. What name you choose matters not. It is CQT because it is now Registered Owner as Beneficiary and the State as Trustee.

And the Trustee with powers now of management will ensure that the State tags go on ITS vehicle and the State registration will be associated with ITS vehicle and the State......

The Right-of-way is the Claim you speak of. That Right comes from a Survey, then Registration of the Plat, and then Claim. And it is a valid Claim.

Answer this question and perhaps it will help you to see better: Is money WITHIN the United States - "tangible or intangible" Property. Before you jump the gun - what is Property again. It is the "Right of Use".

I think that as Heir and Son of the Ever Living that I need not the State to help me do an impossible thing - identify myself. As such, if I cannot identify myself, then what of Registration?

Then who are the beneficiary principals that this "trust" was set up for? In other words, all this "trusteeship" is for the benefit of some peoples who are the heirs to this fortune, correct? This will lead us back to the discussion of the original signors of the "unanimous Declaration..." Not convinced of that yet, and even if that were true, the dishonor, deception and usurpation required to maintain and grow this "USA TRUST" disqualifies that claim from the position of that trust structure and we who make claims upon the Holy and Divine Trust have SUPERIOR standing and HIGHEST TITLE over the land, dominions and possessions we hold and claim in His Name and under His Trust as stewards and husbandmen of the earth.

[Michael Joseph]

The State does not Claim Ownership the State becomes Trustee because YOU registered that Vehicle upon the State Asset Registry. I know, you did it by necessity right? And so what if you paid lawful money to perform the Registry. How does that make a rat's ARSE of a difference. You REGISTERED that Vehicle in the Name of a Cestui Que Trust. What name you choose matters not. It is CQT because it is now Registered Owner as Beneficiary and the State as Trustee.

And the Trustee with powers now of management will ensure that the State tags go on ITS vehicle and the State registration will be associated with ITS vehicle and the State......

The Right-of-way is the Claim you speak of. That Right comes from a Survey, then Registration of the Plat, and then Claim. And it is a valid Claim.

Answer this question and perhaps it will help you to see better: Is money WITHIN the United States - "tangible or intangible" Property. Before you jump the gun - what is Property again. It is the "Right of Use".

I think that as Heir and Son of the Ever Living that I need not the State to help me do an impossible thing - identify myself. As such, if I cannot identify myself, then what of Registration?

[Frederick Burrell]

"Lawful Money" is not substantive in and of itself, it is considered something of value because of the confidence people have in it as a medium of exchange and the assumption and hope the USA will not default on their promise to make good on it in the future. "In God We Trust" is a prayer to God to one day restore proper balances since the trustees of the USA knew all rested upon making good on that promise which they probably realized was an unattainable goal without the assistance of the Almighty Creator.

I believe, as heirs and appointed sons and daughters of the Divine Kingdom under His Trust, we have superior claim and dominion over the earth and all of the creations of men as long as our intents are righteous in nature and are according to His Will. We do not seek out material wealth and power over others, however, we exercise our superior rights and claims over those who are in dishonor and who attempt to enslave men by utilizing deceptive tactics, trickery and concealment, control over information and education and usurping the vital resources that have become the necessties of life in this day and age.

Their DISHONOR coupled with our competent and righteous self-determination and governing in His name renders our claims as superior to those who are upholding and operating a man-created trust developed and maintained for the purpose of harnessing and harvesting every living soul on this land to suck out their energy and sweat equity in order to satisfy their debts and burdens to their creditors.

I agree.

We still have to deal with the reality at the present moment in regards to their claim of owner ship and their seeming willingness to put you out on the street at their whim. So it would seem that for now lawful money is at least a way forward. It at least in their eyes and using their codes statutes and laws to have an ability to show we hold the superior position. In a perfect world none of this would be needed. fB

Wouldn't the fact that you paid in lawful money, something of value, give you a superior claim. If you paid for part of your car or just the taxes on land with lawful money. Would this not give you first position, a position higher than the State as they have invested nothing of real value, FRN's.

"Lawful Money" is not substantive in and of itself, it is considered something of value because of the confidence people have in it as a medium of exchange and the assumption and hope the USA will not default on their promise to make good on it in the future. "In God We Trust" is a prayer to God to one day restore proper balances since the trustees of the USA knew all rested upon making good on that promise which they probably realized was an unattainable goal without the assistance of the Almighty Creator.

I believe, as heirs and appointed sons and daughters of the Divine Kingdom under His Trust, we have superior claim and dominion over the earth and all of the creations of men as long as our intents are righteous in nature and are according to His Will. We do not seek out material wealth and power over others, however, we exercise our superior rights and claims over those who are in dishonor and who attempt to enslave men by utilizing deceptive tactics, trickery and concealment, control over information and education and usurping the vital resources that have become the necessties of life in this day and age.

Their DISHONOR coupled with our competent and righteous self-determination and governing in His name renders our claims as superior to those who are upholding and operating a man-created trust developed and maintained for the purpose of harnessing and harvesting every living soul on this land to suck out their energy and sweat equity in order to satisfy their debts and burdens to their creditors.

[Frederick Burrell]

Wouldn't the fact that you paid in lawful money, something of value, give you a superior claim. If you paid for part of your car or just the taxes on land with lawful money. Would this not give you first position, a position higher than the State as they have invested nothing of real value, FRN's.

And here in is the power of Lawful money redemption. Those plates on that car, once paid for in lawful money, ARE NOT property of the Federal District.

They too, have been redeemed with lawful money, re-venued from the District (the sea) to the land, I OWN THEM and I have paid for them, recorded on the receipt and if needed, proof entered into my evidence repository.

The District officer may presume those plates, that license, that ID is the Districts property, but when paid for with lawful money, redeemed per 12-USC 411, they no longer float on the STATE TRUST, they are on the land, owned by the man or woman holding them.

The STATE presumes and assumes ALL things are subject to them via the first lien of the Federal Reserve that presumption and assumption is defeated by the demand and use of lawful money.

Of course, the place to prove that is NOT on the side of the road, the officer is there to enforce the Lien and nothing more.

The Courts and High Priest Judges are the ones who will "take care of it".

The District Court Clerk is the Nexus between the man or woman and the LOWER (lien/revenue) courts.

The Record of who owns those products (License, Plates, registrations, etc) is already a matter of RECORD in the Higher Court, the matter is res judicata, there is nothing for the lower court officers to hear or opine. No standing for them to profit, the LAW fulfilled, the debt paid.

The STATE cannot re-venue the matter nor seize the property without due process, as defined in their Supreme Law of the land, the Constitution. This is the KEY, the narrow path.

Redemption is a powerful thing.

This really gets to the heart of all matters; does the demanding/redeeming and being upon lawful money create the result whereby a claim of rightful ownership/authority exists by the demander/redeemer over the created chattels of other men? Layers upon layers of trust creations are only a diversionary tactic which keeps the truth and simplicity of our remedy/solution hidden from us; "they shall be redeemed in lawful money upon demand". Once there is no volunteering into being "chattelized" as collateral, the money of exchange we utilize is burdensome upon only one party... THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. It is an IOU which, until people lose confidence in it, will render it something of value to exchange for the necessities of life.

Furthermore, what we obtain via that lawful money exchange has NO third party interest whatsoever; an exchange between two parties occured and both felt they received valuable consideration. This means there is NO LIEN or VALID CLAIM of any kind on that item by any party. That paper is of value to the acceptor and the USA is obligated to make good on their promise according to the law else there is dishonor by default.

[motla68]

And here in is the power of Lawful money redemption. Those plates on that car, once paid for in lawful money, ARE NOT property of the Federal District.

They too, have been redeemed with lawful money, re-venued from the District (the sea) to the land, I OWN THEM and I have paid for them, recorded on the receipt and if needed, proof entered into my evidence repository.

The District officer may presume those plates, that license, that ID is the Districts property, but when paid for with lawful money, redeemed per 12-USC 411, they no longer float on the STATE TRUST, they are on the land, owned by the man or woman holding them.

The STATE presumes and assumes ALL things are subject to them via the first lien of the Federal Reserve that presumption and assumption is defeated by the demand and use of lawful money.

Of course, the place to prove that is NOT on the side of the road, the officer is there to enforce the Lien and nothing more.

The Courts and High Priest Judges are the ones who will "take care of it".

The District Court Clerk is the Nexus between the man or woman and the LOWER (lien/revenue) courts.

The Record of who owns those products (License, Plates, registrations, etc) is already a matter of RECORD in the Higher Court, the matter is res judicata, there is nothing for the lower court officers to hear or opine. No standing for them to profit, the LAW fulfilled, the debt paid.

The STATE cannot re-venue the matter nor seize the property without due process, as defined in their Supreme Law of the land, the Constitution. This is the KEY, the narrow path.

Redemption is a powerful thing.

Your getting warmer/ closer to what we discovered through Coresource Martin, liking more of what I am hearing from you on this.

Tomorrow we are going to look into getting an appointment through the local county probate court so we can lay it all out and possibly get a exemption account. One road block is that we may have to go to the county court of the county where the birth took place, we shall see.

[martin earl]

And here in is the power of Lawful money redemption. Those plates on that car, once paid for in lawful money, ARE NOT property of the Federal District.

They too, have been redeemed with lawful money, re-venued from the District (the sea) to the land, I OWN THEM and I have paid for them, recorded on the receipt and if needed, proof entered into my evidence repository.

The District officer may presume those plates, that license, that ID is the Districts property, but when paid for with lawful money, redeemed per 12-USC 411, they no longer float on the STATE TRUST, they are on the land, owned by the man or woman holding them.

The STATE presumes and assumes ALL things are subject to them via the first lien of the Federal Reserve that presumption and assumption is defeated by the demand and use of lawful money.

Of course, the place to prove that is NOT on the side of the road, the officer is there to enforce the Lien and nothing more.

The Courts and High Priest Judges are the ones who will "take care of it".

The District Court Clerk is the Nexus between the man or woman and the LOWER (lien/revenue) courts.

The Record of who owns those products (License, Plates, registrations, etc) is already a matter of RECORD in the Higher Court, the matter is res judicata, there is nothing for the lower court officers to hear or opine. No standing for them to profit, the LAW fulfilled, the debt paid.

The STATE cannot re-venue the matter nor seize the property without due process, as defined in their Supreme Law of the land, the Constitution. This is the KEY, the narrow path.

Redemption is a powerful thing.

"My given appellation is Anthony Joseph spelled precisely as follows (spell out). This is the name given unto me by my natural mother and father, who conceived me, by the command and Will of the Creator. I have accepted this name as my own and I do not, and will not, under any circumstances give my name to anyone or anything to have, hold, use, change or manipulate in any way. My name is provided for the sole purpose of proper, lawful and peaceable communication only."

Set the rules and the agreement before providing a name for amicable, peaceable and communicable clarity ONLY. No one else can take control of what you claim unless it is granted openly or nakedly. Form the contract and let them respond on the record. If it is refusal, then they no longer have any standing to ask for your name; then you instruct them to call you a "friend". Any subsequent character assassination attempt on their part will place them in dishonor on the record.

[Michael Joseph]

Thats what I like about you Michael Josepth always so cheery. lol Frederick Burrell

my writing style comes off sometimes a lot differently that I talk. Many times I am completely mis-understood. So be it.

I hope you are enriched by my humble presentments nevertheless.

shalom