can you prove your identity?

[Michael Joseph]

Would anyone here care to take up the argument of identity with me? I challenge anyone here to prove their identity.

With specificity, what about you proves your identity? Specifically how can i identify you absent any outside source? What is it about you that specifically identifies you?


Lets just see what form of argument may be offered up to prove one's identity. I hope all will engage. This should be fun.

[motla68]

A biological father identifies me as his son, being the seed of my father my father and I are one.

[Frederick Burrell]

Not sure based on that info I could pick you out of a crowd, even a small crowd at that. lol

Its all hear say I would suppose if you try to connect it to a name. What have you been calling yourself. Frederick Burrell.

[David Merrill]

Would anyone here care to take up the argument of identity with me? I challenge anyone here to prove their identity.

With specificity, what about you proves your identity? Specifically how can i identify you absent any outside source? What is it about you that specifically identifies you?


Lets just see what form of argument may be offered up to prove one's identity. I hope all will engage. This should be fun.

My thumbprint and photo on my signature typically are convincing evidence to identify me.

[Michael Joseph]

all of the foregoing can be changed. If i take a photograph - what about me cannot be changed in the future to completely look 100% different.

Thumbprint you say - those can be filed away - so what about you specifically proves who you are?

Mom and Dad don't cut it. They may be liars. I don't trust them. What, I am to take the word of a third party concerning your identity? How do I know it is you tomorrow?

Legal arguments have no basis here. What I am to trust in a third party again? I don't think so. Okay, I see the problem, Let me rephrase:

Let's say you and I have a talk today - face to face - and we agree to have another talk tomorrow - face to face. How will you know tomorrow that I am me? What will you use to prove my identity so that you can be assured 100% that I am me?

Thank you Frederick Burrell: your name comment is appreciated - names do not identify a living soul. Any rational mind can quickly come to that end.

[motla68]

Not sure based on that info I could pick you out of a crowd, even a small crowd at that. lol

Its all hear say I would suppose if you try to connect it to a name. What have you been calling yourself. Frederick Burrell.

Why does one need a name? Can not a man be described without a name?

[motla68]

Mom and Dad don't cut it. They may be liars. I don't trust them. What, I am to take the word of a third party concerning your identity? How do I know it is you tomorrow?

Since you have a belief in biblical knowledge, in reference to needing 2 or more witnesses, does not Mom and Dad make 2 witnesses?
Now you call them liar without proof of that, where is your standing?

[Michael Joseph]

Since you have a belief in biblical knowledge, in reference to needing 2 or more witnesses, does not Mom and Dad make 2 witnesses?
Now you call them liar without proof of that, where is your standing?

I asked you to identify me absent trusting in another. If you take the Word of Mom and Dad, then you TRUST they are not lying. How is this any way proof of my identity? What?, men and women don't lie? I bet I can drag in two to Claim they are my Mom and Dad will you believe them? How does their witness identify me?

However, your response goes to societal trust - two or more witnesses. Will these be required to take an oath before the Ever Living - at Beersheba - the Well of Oaths? What if these are atheists?

Furthermore, will Mom and Dad show up every day to give their testimony of my Identity?

I just caught David's response regarding Photo. Photo will not get it. I can change every aspect of my appearance. How will you know it me tomorrow?

Please attempt to focus and stay on topic. The topic is Identity. Clearly a Name is not identity.

[Anthony Joseph]

I asked you to identify me absent trusting in another. If you take the Word of Mom and Dad, then you TRUST they are not lying. How is this any way proof of my identity? What?, men and women don't lie? I bet I can drag in two to Claim they are my Mom and Dad will you believe them? How does their witness identify me?

However, your response goes to societal trust - two or more witnesses. Will these be required to take an oath before the Ever Living - at Beersheba - the Well of Oaths? What if these are atheists?

Furthermore, will Mom and Dad show up every day to give their testimony of my Identity?

I just caught David's response regarding Photo. Photo will not get it. I can change every aspect of my appearance. How will you know it me tomorrow?

Please attempt to focus and stay on topic. The topic is Identity. Clearly a Name is not identity.

Define "identity".

[Frederick Burrell]

Hey Motla you sound different on audio. lol. perhaps I could Identify you by your voice.

Perhaps I could just read Michael Josephs Aura to ascertain whether he was the same person. Or I could Know or perhaps feel his particular vibration. Frederick Burrell.

I like looking at Aura's myself. But sometime it the soul that expresses itself through the eyes that is the tell tail sign. Night all. late here.

[motla68]

Hey Motla you sound different on audio. lol. perhaps I could Identify you by your voice.

Perhaps I could just read Michael Josephs Aura to ascertain whether he was the same person. Or I could Know or perhaps feel his particular vibration. Frederick Burrell.

I like looking at Aura's myself. But sometime it the soul that expresses itself through the eyes that is the tell tail sign. Night all. late here.

Yes I know, it is a haunting. This is why I usually digitize the voice or a lot of times at meetings have Onlashuk speak, his is a bit clearer and straight forward audibly.

I can see your point with appearance of Oras and Vibrations, they can save a lot of time when dealing with real life situations.

[David Merrill]

I asked you to identify me absent trusting in another. If you take the Word of Mom and Dad, then you TRUST they are not lying. How is this any way proof of my identity? What?, men and women don't lie? I bet I can drag in two to Claim they are my Mom and Dad will you believe them? How does their witness identify me?

However, your response goes to societal trust - two or more witnesses. Will these be required to take an oath before the Ever Living - at Beersheba - the Well of Oaths? What if these are atheists?

Furthermore, will Mom and Dad show up every day to give their testimony of my Identity?

I just caught David's response regarding Photo. Photo will not get it. I can change every aspect of my appearance. How will you know it me tomorrow?

Please attempt to focus and stay on topic. The topic is Identity. Clearly a Name is not identity.

I know that the Name of God is on you from today:

The 72-Fold Name originates from the (click) 72 letters/verse in Exodus 14:19-21.

I once took a supercomputer to task to find the best standard for resonance in the Table of Relative Weights. If you look at that equation you will find too that Gadolinium 157 (named after God btw) is the best 157/157=1 Standard to near all the other values closer to 1 [rather than 12/12=1 Carbon 12]. So there is a place were the 0.99999'ss become 1.0000001's and there is a place where the 1.0000001's become .9999999's. Those two places on the Improved Table are Gadolinium 157 and Germanium 72 - like the 72-Fold Name of God.

When I meet with you today (bottom of Page 15), I will take a DNA scan:

I will sum up everything about every memory of every event in history adding up to Michael Joseph - ever recorded; which is sum total, the man I meet today. Total Theory. Everybody is a mathematician - look closely! Bring this image up full screen ("+" cursor and F11), cross your eyes a little and then relax them while still 'looking'. Your brain might perform an FFT and show you Moses' Burning Bush! - Or better yet; you might have the sky come forward, and you will see the bush like a fist punched into soft clay? [View the incident from God's perspective? That is how your brain does the math?]

Today I might take your thumbprint and then tomorrow when we meet do that again, should the need for security be so great. If you show up tomorrow with an acid burned thumb and sorry excuses though, I will put a NOACHIDE title upon you - nakar, nokriy. "...feign self to be another," [Foreigner in Deuteronomy 15:1-3 and stranger in 23:20. So now MICHAEL JOSEPH is right back where Michael Joseph was before he began non-endorsing the national debt.] You are now suspect about defrauding me, a representative of the community. If I identify myself with Israel of the Bible my community (state) will identify you with the Children of Noah... Page 1, Page 2.

You will be correctly identified, mainly because I know who I am. Either way, you will be correctly identified.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[motla68]

I asked you to identify me absent trusting in another. If you take the Word of Mom and Dad, then you TRUST they are not lying. How is this any way proof of my identity? What?, men and women don't lie? I bet I can drag in two to Claim they are my Mom and Dad will you believe them? How does their witness identify me?

However, your response goes to societal trust - two or more witnesses. Will these be required to take an oath before the Ever Living - at Beersheba - the Well of Oaths? What if these are atheists?

Furthermore, will Mom and Dad show up every day to give their testimony of my Identity?

I just caught David's response regarding Photo. Photo will not get it. I can change every aspect of my appearance. How will you know it me tomorrow?

Please attempt to focus and stay on topic. The topic is Identity. Clearly a Name is not identity.

I can see your first point, it is all relative and subject to change at any given moment.

My direction was more towards description of body rather then name though.

[Frederick Burrell]

motla

didn't mean to imply your talkshoes were not good. Not being polished is a plus in my book. But its nice you have a working partner. Have not heard him speak yet. maybe tomorrow. Frederick Burrell

[Michael Joseph]

Define "identity".

Excellent. Shows no trust. I am getting there. But for now: Identity is the ability for you to know who I am at a latter time.