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  • David Merrill
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    • Mar 2011
    • 5957

    #16
    Originally posted by RThomas View Post
    David,

    I am going to be busy over the next few days and will add more when life allows. Nobody has achieved the ‘holy grail,’ receiving actual money of substance for the substance of their labor. In short the results many are getting here may be just the Fed’s way of carrying on and using band aids to prevent any mortal bleeding. I am beginning to see that there may be one more step that need be taken. My thoughts are still in motion.

    RThomas

    Thanks for your contributions.

    My perspective involves a ten-year cure on this Bill of Exchange, one of the documents in this mosaic. That mosaic is but a piece of a much larger mosaic describing the sublime esoteric that helps us to draw the distinction between fate and destiny. For my bloodline, the Charter begins with Teunis Jansen Laenan VAN PELT and has a marked anointing by Master Mason WASHINGTON with my ancestor Peter VAN PELT. There is mention of a perpetual inheritance of which I can prove my bloodline.

    Doctor in the law Dale LIVINGSTON, Esquire has a different perspective on the same events. It helps to understand that Esquire is of the Crown Templars in flavor. Then you might see that to him, treason was actually the custodians of the record found on the hill at the Mason Library and Museum. This is where the Knights Templar reside.

    Motla68 has yet a different approach:

    Originally posted by motla68 View Post
    Here is a little more on how that works out, we are only keeping the state honorable by correctly reporting events. This is from the IRS instructions for form 1099-C:
    "" When Is a Debt Canceled
    A debt is deemed canceled on the date an identifiable event occurs
    or, if earlier, the date of the actual discharge if you choose to file
    Form 1099-C for the year of cancellation. An identifiable event is:
    1. A discharge in bankruptcy under Title 11 of the U.S. Code.
    For information on certain discharges in bankruptcy not required to
    be reported, see Exceptions on this page. ""

    I believe these FRNS to be promissory notes that discharges the debts since they are not backed by anything. Also how do I know they do not have any other bonds attached to this event (account with the court) worth thousands of dollars?

    Here is the kicker though to why I think certain methods of taking care of tickets completely disappear from the public record, when it is revealed at certain names are " Property of the State" as shown on Psyop's parking ticket shown, starting out with another clip from IRS instructions form 1099-C:
    "" CAUTION
    Do not file Form 1099-C when fraudulent debt is canceled
    due to identity theft. Form 1099-C is to be used only for
    cancellations of debts for which the debtor actually incurred
    the underlying debt. ""

    When we reveal that we know the named account is " property of the state " after they tried to identify us as the name, it is identity theft they tried to take from us, so instead of suffering any liabilities for identity theft they get rid of that accounting from the public record as soon as possible just in case someone tries to file 1099-C for it.
    But of course your not going to get them to admit to any of that on the record, they are not going to accuse themselves as we should not be accusing ourselves of being statutory employees that have an oath of office or appointment of duty. They will not stay honorable unless we operate honorable to ourselves.
    This is another example of how we can be our own worst enemy sometimes.

    Furthermore, can the state prove they actually incurred an underlying debt? I don't think so.

    That perspective is skewed by the fact that the United States is not, nor ever was bankrupt. Here is a bankruptcy - in my email just today. There are of course senators and congressmen who make allusions to bankruptcy and foreclosure in the Congressional Record, but that does not prove anything. What Motla68 might show if he is serious is who is keeping the United States in Receivership.

    Here is the kicker though to why I think certain methods of taking care of tickets completely disappear from the public record, when it is revealed at certain names are " Property of the State" as shown on Psyop's parking ticket shown, starting out with another clip from IRS instructions form 1099-C:

    I think the big problem with that is that Property of the State is part of the sticker that Psyop stuck on the ticket. It is of course among proven verbiage that comprises the Demand for lawful money.

    If you combine Property of the State with known effective remedy found in current law, it is questionable that the Property of the State declaration had any effect. Albeit the debt - due to obligations of the US and the character of US notes (inelastic) albeit in the form of Fed notes (stock certificates await redemption - these particular ones fit in the wallet and circulate widely); the debt of $15 may indeed by property of the state - the state in possession of the debt.

    Since 1934 the law states clearly that we can only redeem "lawful money" and lawful money means fully bonded. This redacts the action of redemption to restricted endorsement - meaning that the banksters cannot honestly lend upon money in your account and we have more and more indication that their attorneys are explaining that to them clearly.

    Rock Anthony has recently posted some very delightful insight about this here. Mainly, that if you redeem lawful money by signature card it is only fair that you bank with an interest-free checking account and maybe where you have to pay the bank for checks and by transaction too.


    Regards,

    David Merrill.


    P.S. Then again I am judging from my perspective. There is a whole history between 1861 and 1913 involving Canada too! (Footnotes.)

    Last edited by David Merrill; 08-19-11, 10:37 PM.
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    • RThomas
      Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 52

      #17
      “The bank put up no consideration, so your credit was the only consideration.”

      I’ll expand more on this later, but my initial response would be, is it the bank (an instrumentality of the US) that received the ‘consideration’ or the US? Is it possible that the banks consideration is a form of set-off (think national debt)? My mind is still very fluid on this but the waters are calming to show a glass like reflection.

      “Within the Federal Reserve System FRNs are money."

      Within the transaction I am speaking to FRNs is ’other’ money given back in an equivalent ‘sum’ under the presumption that one's ‘irregular’ deposit was a ‘loan’.

      “But from without it, FRNs are stock certificates in the Fed.”

      Within the transaction I am speaking to one’s ‘regular’ deposit is not declared by one to have been made in ‘stock certificates in the Fed’ but declared to be lawful money which has been declared by the US under their original fixing of the weights of gold and silver thus defining ‘dollars’. Thus one’s substance is not a loan, but deposited for safekeeping and a demand that the same ‘specie’ of ‘dollars’ be returned.

      I have more to share as to what I am now seeing
      Last edited by RThomas; 08-20-11, 08:15 AM.

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      • motla68
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 752

        #18
        Originally posted by RThomas View Post
        “The bank put up no consideration, so your credit was the only consideration.”

        I’ll expand more on this later, but my initial response would be, is it the bank (an instrumentality of the US) that received the ‘consideration’ or the US? Is it possible that the banks consideration is a form of set-off (think national debt)? My mind is still very fluid on this but the waters are calming to show a glass like reflection.

        “Within the Federal Reserve System FRNs are money."

        Within the transaction I am speaking to FRNs is ’other’ money given back in an equivalent ‘sum’ under the presumption that one's ‘irregular’ deposit was a ‘loan’.

        “But from without it, FRNs are stock certificates in the Fed.”

        Within the transaction I am speaking to one’s ‘regular’ deposit is not declared by one to have been made in ‘stock certificates in the Fed’ but declared to be lawful money which has been declared by the US under their original fixing of the weights of gold and silver thus defining ‘dollars’. Thus one’s substance is not a loan, but deposited for safekeeping and a demand that the same ‘specie’ of ‘dollars’ be returned.

        I have more to share as to what I am now seeing
        ok, RThomas, lets expand upon your thoughts here, was it you that accepted it as value or was it the merchant licensed by the state to do business who accepted the value in exchange for goods and services? See below image

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        The front serialized is the private and the back is the public side, I know this is ass backwards but complain to Congress who once called Lawful Money by itself in circulation " green backs ". They are both obligations of the U.S. Treasury AND Federal Reserve Bank being partly that they were printed by the Federal Burea of Engraving and printing and the FRB is duty bound by the Federal Reserve Act.
        Go to the following link and read the first paragraph section for yourself:



        Cheers!
        Last edited by motla68; 08-20-11, 12:02 PM.
        "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
        be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

        ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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        • David Merrill
          Administrator
          • Mar 2011
          • 5957

          #19
          Originally posted by motla68 View Post
          Originally posted by RThomas View Post
          “The bank put up no consideration, so your credit was the only consideration.”

          I’ll expand more on this later, but my initial response would be, is it the bank (an instrumentality of the US) that received the ‘consideration’ or the US? Is it possible that the banks consideration is a form of set-off (think national debt)? My mind is still very fluid on this but the waters are calming to show a glass like reflection.

          “Within the Federal Reserve System FRNs are money."

          Within the transaction I am speaking to FRNs is ’other’ money given back in an equivalent ‘sum’ under the presumption that one's ‘irregular’ deposit was a ‘loan’.

          “But from without it, FRNs are stock certificates in the Fed.”

          Within the transaction I am speaking to one’s ‘regular’ deposit is not declared by one to have been made in ‘stock certificates in the Fed’ but declared to be lawful money which has been declared by the US under their original fixing of the weights of gold and silver thus defining ‘dollars’. Thus one’s substance is not a loan, but deposited for safekeeping and a demand that the same ‘specie’ of ‘dollars’ be returned.

          I have more to share as to what I am now seeing

          ok, RThomas, lets expand upon your thoughts here, was it you that accepted it as value or was it the merchant licensed by the state to do business who accepted the value in exchange for goods and services? See below image

          Click image for larger version

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          The front serialized is the private and the back is the public side, I know this is ass backwards but complain to Congress who once called Lawful Money by itself in circulation " green backs ". They are both obligations of the U.S. Treasury AND Federal Reserve Bank being partly that they were printed by the Federal Burea of Engraving and printing and the FRB is duty bound by the Federal Reserve Act.
          Go to the following link and read the first paragraph section for yourself:



          Cheers!
          et seq as the attorneys say:

          Click Here.

          The key in understanding any illusion of an account with the Treasury, even based in HJR-192 is to fit a proper substitution into the term Special Drawing Rights as the major currency - Special Drawing Right Certificates as currency that is exchanged for the issuance of Fed notes. If you are in a hurry just do a Search while on the Fed Faqs page linked - Ctrl-Fet seq.

          I have shown you the Senate Report several times lately. Where this started for me was long ago it seems now, and far, far away at the Tuesday Night Law Club Meetings. A guest speaker from California told me about the Secret Jamaica Rambouillet Accord and that if anybody sensed I was getting close, then I would be killed. Sure enough, when I found it in the State Department Bulletin, THEY came and killed me!

          The actual minutes of the meeting were secret, and still are as you read on Pages 3-4.

          Page 3.
          Page 4.

          First I grabbed this paragraph from the State Department Bulletin.


          That is from Undersecretary KATZ writing in the Bulletin. Here is the entire Report.

          You can get a definition off Wiki or many other hits to compare to mine:

          Special Drawing Rights - The average US Dollar or equivalent value per US Dollar as determined of five exemplary nations. Exemplary nations being where the people are duped into endorsing private credit from their respective central banks, rather than to redeem lawful money.

          With that in mind, substitute that mental model into "special drawing rights" as you read the Treasury Faqs link.



          Regards,

          David Merrill.
          www.lawfulmoneytrust.com
          www.bishopcastle.us
          www.bishopcastle.mobi

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          • motla68
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 752

            #20
            David, thank you very much. Among other references to this it is quite a revealing key of knowledge for anyone who doubts this function can be accomplished.

            I am considering modifying the stamp a bit due to other things found for certain presentments. Instead of putting " Property of the State " replace with " Gift to the State "
            and " Deposit for Credit" replace with " Deposit for Settlement " . Will share with you more when one of us here comes up with some results.
            "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
            be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

            ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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            • David Merrill
              Administrator
              • Mar 2011
              • 5957

              #21
              You are quite welcome Motla68;


              Here is something that will help. This too. Read it with one eye on a mirror, to cover your back! [wink]
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              • Richard Earl
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 119

                #22
                Thank you David. I'm glad you're feeling better since that time when they killed you. They sure don't fool around.

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                • David Merrill
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                  • Mar 2011
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Richard Earl View Post
                  Thank you David. I'm glad you're feeling better since that time when they killed you. They sure don't fool around.

                  Thanks for catching that. It was a significantly serious lesson though - that it may be found in the State Department Bulletin.
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                  • RThomas
                    Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 52

                    #24

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                    • RThomas
                      Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 52

                      #25
                      "property of the state"

                      I now see what you are presenting. Perception becomes reality, a two way street in deed.
                      Last edited by RThomas; 08-21-11, 07:30 AM. Reason: clarity seen and clarity presented

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                      • motla68
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 752

                        #26
                        Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                        You are quite welcome Motla68;


                        Here is something that will help. This too. Read it with one eye on a mirror, to cover your back! [wink]
                        One word comes to mind reading all this " linchpin " .
                        Truly the epiphany of the saying of money being a root of evil, used to control. It seems they literally use symbolism into the Sona of money being the redemption to a God of sorts.
                        A difficult thing for the masses to do is wake up to the Estate which was given to us by the one true God before the foundation of this world was ever created.
                        "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
                        be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

                        ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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                        • motla68
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 752

                          #27
                          Originally posted by RThomas View Post
                          "property of the state"

                          I now see what you are presenting. Perception becomes reality, a two way street in deed.
                          You might see some more simplification coming to light when you just start calling instruments for what they are, i.e. SSN is property of the SSA, Birth Certificate is Property of the State, Drivers license is property of the state. So the next time a government agent asks you for any of these things state the condition of which you are offering the instrument at least verbally, " this is property of the state and if your looking for a benefit from the state take this instrument". You will get some kodak moments of facial expressions when you do this.
                          "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
                          be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

                          ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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                          • motla68
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 752

                            #28
                            I know we talked about this HJR 192 thing not long ago, found it in my files and forgot that I had read it once before, this is the caveat that brings the meaning of Lawful Money to the international scene, evidence of this was finding the Saskatchewan charter in Canada says that Lawful Money of Canada has the same meaning as Lawful Money of the United States of America.

                            It appears that everything was moved up to the international level one succession step at a time as was the Lieber Code mentioned before:
                            " The "Lieber Instructions" strongly influenced the further codification of the laws of war and the adoption of similar regulations by other states. They formed the origin of the project of an international convention on the laws of war presented to the Brussels Conference in 1874 and stimulated the adoption of the Hague Conventions on land warfare of 1899 and 1907. "
                            http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/73cb71d1...5?OpenDocument
                            Last edited by motla68; 08-21-11, 09:50 PM.
                            "You have to understand Neo, most of these people are not ready to
                            be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

                            ~ Morpheus / The Matrix movie trilogy.

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                            • David Merrill
                              Administrator
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 5957

                              #29
                              Originally posted by motla68 View Post
                              One word comes to mind reading all this " linchpin " .
                              Truly the epiphany of the saying of money being a root of evil, used to control. It seems they literally use symbolism into the Sona of money being the redemption to a God of sorts.
                              A difficult thing for the masses to do is wake up to the Estate which was given to us by the one true God before the foundation of this world was ever created.

                              One might give a listen to what goes on in the Sanctuary of a well-enlightened church. However, this pastor was quickly dismissed by the 501(C)(3) component.



                              Originally posted by motla68 View Post
                              I know we talked about this HJR 192 thing not long ago, found it in my files and forgot that I had read it once before, this is the caveat that brings the meaning of Lawful Money to the international scene, evidence of this was finding the Saskatchewan charter in Canada says that Lawful Money of Canada has the same meaning as Lawful Money of the United States of America.

                              It appears that everything was moved up to the international level one succession step at a time as was the Lieber Code mentioned before:
                              " The "Lieber Instructions" strongly influenced the further codification of the laws of war and the adoption of similar regulations by other states. They formed the origin of the project of an international convention on the laws of war presented to the Brussels Conference in 1874 and stimulated the adoption of the Hague Conventions on land warfare of 1899 and 1907. "
                              http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/73cb71d1...5?OpenDocument
                              A good reality check is to remember that the Emergency (and the Lieber Code) were terminated in 1976. The artifacts that remain are only about remedy from the Fed - more like the Fed's remedy from the Run of people demanding lawful money. It always comes around to that - redeeming lawful money. That is the component that is effective while the allusion to a Treasury Account always creates the illusion that is where the Setoff came from.
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                              • Treefarmer
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 473

                                #30
                                Originally posted by motla68 View Post
                                You might see some more simplification coming to light when you just start calling instruments for what they are, i.e. SSN is property of the SSA, Birth Certificate is Property of the State, Drivers license is property of the state. So the next time a government agent asks you for any of these things state the condition of which you are offering the instrument at least verbally, " this is property of the state and if your looking for a benefit from the state take this instrument". You will get some kodak moments of facial expressions when you do this.
                                I recently had the opportunity to try this out.
                                I was traveling in an old mini-van which I had bought with lawful money many years ago and which I keep up with my labor and a regular infusion of parts, but which is branded with a TENNESSEE license plate nevertheless.
                                I was on the great Plains somewhere in the mid-west late at night, pumping gas at a gas station which was closed but had left the pumps open for business with credit and debit cards.
                                I was the only one there as far as I could tell. The gas station had one light which was the only light in the area.
                                I saw a house about 200 yards away that had no lights on. I could not see what else was in the neighborhood, if anything.

                                I pumped gas using a debit card and because I was tired I decided to take a nap right there in my van.
                                I don't know how long it was after I dozed off, when I awoke from a cop knocking on my window and shining a light on me.
                                He demanded to see a DL from me.
                                I had the STATE OF TENNESSEE DL clipped to a sun visor pocket above the driver seat.
                                The driver door window was rolled down about 3 inches at the time.
                                I moved from the floor in the back where I was laying into the front of the van between the seats and flipped the visor against the window where the cop was so he could see it.
                                I told him that the STATE OF TENNESSEE issues such things (as a DL) and that if he desired this benefit he should go ahead and take it.
                                He said that he could not read it nor reach it there so I got the ignition key out of my pocket and turned the lock cylinder far enough for the power to come on, and then rolled the power window down another 8 inches or so.
                                At this point the cop was able to reach the DL in the visor pocket and he took it with him to his patrol car.

                                I laid back down in my nap spot.
                                The cop spent some time with that DL, perhaps 8 to 10 minutes.
                                This DL has a squeaky clean record attached to it.
                                When the cop came back he knocked on the window again and I got up again and kneeled on the floor of the van between the seats.
                                He put the DL back where he found it.

                                I asked him if he knew of a good place for taking a nap in the area.
                                He said that the gas station was as good a place as any, unless the owner showed up and asked me to leave. He added that he thought this was unlikely.
                                I told him that in this case I would continue to take my nap there. We wished each other a good night.

                                I power napped maybe 25 more minutes, which refreshed me enough so that I could return to traveling on the Interstate highway.

                                I look forward to exploring this concept further, as opportunities arise.
                                Treefarmer

                                There is power in the blood of Jesus

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