Cracking the Code Failure - Doreen Indicted

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  • John Howard
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 118

    #31
    Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
    I am registered there and can read. But after all these years, my account is still "inactive"?
    His roof, his rules. He would certainly be welcome here.
    Blessed is he who keeps from stumbling over me.

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    • John Howard
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 118

      #32
      I just invited him.

      Howard: of Saxon origin, meaning boldness.
      Last edited by John Howard; 06-13-13, 03:25 PM.
      Blessed is he who keeps from stumbling over me.

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      • David Merrill
        Administrator
        • Mar 2011
        • 5949

        #33
        Either way, if he were to admit he has missed remedy (according to law) with CtC there would be a lot of benefit and less victims.
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        • John Howard
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 118

          #34
          Two questions:

          1: How many CtCers are here?

          2: How many CtC victims are here?
          Blessed is he who keeps from stumbling over me.

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          • David Lyn
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 29

            #35
            And why does the savings to suitors club attract so many CTCers? I found this place from Johnny's posts over there

            Originally posted by John Howard View Post
            Two questions:

            1: How many CtCers are here?

            2: How many CtC victims are here?

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            • Brian
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 142

              #36
              Originally posted by David Lyn View Post
              And why does the savings to suitors club attract so many CTCers? I found this place from Johnny's posts over there
              Because CtC leaves a large hole in the middle requiring further research. It creates a great framework but falls short in putting it into practical action. Pete always talked about the "piece of the action" thing, federal privilege thing. What he overlooked like the majority of Americans is the money. Cui Bono. The "money" being paid to you has a large federal privilege that attaches to it. Like being paid in money substitutes issued at the discretion of the Federal Reserve board and NOT congress. THIS CAN BE TAXED as an excise. see: https://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov...75.US.533.html

              The remedy is via the demand that you know what their game is by invoking 12USC411 and your right to be paid in the proper medium of exchange authorized by article 1 section 8 clause 5 and therefore is protected by the direct tax provisions.

              PS: JH he will probably ban you, like he did to others on this forum. Especially if you continue posting links to here..case in point "libre".
              Last edited by Brian; 06-13-13, 06:57 PM.

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              • David Merrill
                Administrator
                • Mar 2011
                • 5949

                #37
                SDR's are the measure of a society's conditioning for its people to endorse private credit from the local central bank.

                Suitors and people like you are the reason that an alternative SDR system arose - we devalue the confidence in the local SDR system. It is called BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa).
                Last edited by David Merrill; 06-13-13, 10:53 PM.
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                • docfate
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 1

                  #38
                  I don't know about the Corporate (FEDERAL RESERVE) money article that you posted.

                  This just seems to be a stretch. Having a private corporation or government entity issue private money, and that being the reason that the income tax can be legal seems like a stretch.

                  What about what the supreme court has said on similar things like this?

                  In Thomas v. City of Richmond, 12 Wall. 349, 20 L.Ed. 453, Thomas brought his suit to recover on notes issued by the city. As in the instant case, it was criminal both for the city authorities to issue them and on the part of the party who paid for them. Of this the Court said in 12 Wall. at page 356, "* * * The issuing of bills as a currency by such a corporation without authority is not only contrary to positive law, but, being ultra vires, is an abuse of the public franchises which have been conferred upon it; and the receiver of the bills, being chargeable with notice of the wrong, is in pari delicto with the officers, and should have no remedy, even for money had and received, against the corporation upon which he has aided in inflicting the wrong * * *." (Emphasis supplied.)

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                  • David Merrill
                    Administrator
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 5949

                    #39
                    Originally posted by docfate View Post
                    I don't know about the Corporate (FEDERAL RESERVE) money article that you posted.

                    This just seems to be a stretch. Having a private corporation or government entity issue private money, and that being the reason that the income tax can be legal seems like a stretch.

                    What about what the supreme court has said on similar things like this?

                    In Thomas v. City of Richmond, 12 Wall. 349, 20 L.Ed. 453, Thomas brought his suit to recover on notes issued by the city. As in the instant case, it was criminal both for the city authorities to issue them and on the part of the party who paid for them. Of this the Court said in 12 Wall. at page 356, "* * * The issuing of bills as a currency by such a corporation without authority is not only contrary to positive law, but, being ultra vires, is an abuse of the public franchises which have been conferred upon it; and the receiver of the bills, being chargeable with notice of the wrong, is in pari delicto with the officers, and should have no remedy, even for money had and received, against the corporation upon which he has aided in inflicting the wrong * * *." (Emphasis supplied.)
                    Welcome to the forum Docfate;


                    I am not sure what link you mean, or if you are talking to me?

                    Interesting citation though... about a city issuing notes. The Fed is sanctioned by Congress so from what I can tell that would be the difference. The City is sanctioned by METRO organization, the nature of which is discussed fully around here including my narrative reading of a 1960 METRO book.
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                    • John Howard
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 118

                      #40
                      Originally posted by docfate View Post

                      This just seems to be a stretch. Having a private corporation or government entity issue private money, and that being the reason that the income tax can be legal seems like a stretch.
                      Have you seen this? Everyone has doubts at first.
                      Blessed is he who keeps from stumbling over me.

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                      • John Howard
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 118

                        #41
                        Doreen's motion to dismiss has been posted.
                        Blessed is he who keeps from stumbling over me.

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                        • John Howard
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 118

                          #42
                          Is our illustrious government allowed to suborn perjury? I sincerely hope not!
                          Blessed is he who keeps from stumbling over me.

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                          • bobbinville

                            #43
                            I think that what the government is saying is that Doreen has no legal basis for believing that she is filing correct returns, and that while she may still truly believe that she is filing correct, CtC-educated returns, she is legally barred from doing so unless she can enunciate a legal basis for convincing the government otherwise. That's the way that the court system works, my friends; and unless you can set forth a compelling legal argument during your appeal, you are going to lose, no matter how fervently you may believe in CtC or anything else. You may believe that the courts have been consistently wrong on CtC; but unless you can convince them otherwise, you are going to pay the price. Pete did; and it looks like Doreen will do that as well.

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                            • John Howard
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 118

                              #44
                              What country is this? I thought it was America. I thought we lived under the rule of law. "Ve vill tell you vhat to believe!" No legal basis? You could say that, if you did not read the motion.
                              Blessed is he who keeps from stumbling over me.

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                              • JohnnyCash

                                #45
                                Kudos to Mrs. Hendrickson for standing up for what she believes in!

                                Originally posted by bobbinville View Post
                                I think that what the government is saying is that Doreen has no legal basis for believing that she is filing correct returns, and that while she may still truly believe that she is filing correct, CtC-educated returns, she is legally barred from doing so unless she can enunciate a legal basis for convincing the government otherwise. That's the way that the court system works, my friends; and unless you can set forth a compelling legal argument during your appeal, you are going to lose, no matter how fervently you may believe in CtC or anything else. You may believe that the courts have been consistently wrong on CtC; but unless you can convince them otherwise, you are going to pay the price. Pete did; and it looks like Doreen will do that as well.
                                Bobbinville, do you have some experience with how the court system works? The option to redeem lawful money is a compelling legal argument that worked for me (6 years running, thank you) and countless others here. I note your fearmongering but can tell you I did not lose & I have not paid the price for standing up to the banking cartel running this country. Your threats are empty.

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