Adventures in land ownership

[Treefarmer]

Very interesting, thank you for all the info shikamaru.

I've come to the conclusion that the system as it currently works, where the highest form of land ownership for people with BCs, DLs, SSNs, etc is in FEE SIMPLE, which is NOT allodial ownership but at the most a feudal landlord/tenant relationship, is still endorsed and tolerated by Yehovah Elohim, and as such I need to go along with it, as I am His subject.

But if and when the Roman beast power that's in charge of the USA defaults on Yehovah Elohim's law requirements completely, for example by establishing a National Sunday Law as described here, then I will probably return the WARRANTY DEED and its survey to the US and claim allodial ownership of the land itself as agent of Yehovah Elohim, based on the resulting trust which forms upon the default of the current trustee.
That's all contingent on me being around of course.

[David Merrill]

Very interesting, thank you for all the info shikamaru.

I've come to the conclusion that the system as it currently works, where the highest form of land ownership for people with BCs, DLs, SSNs, etc is in FEE SIMPLE, which is NOT allodial ownership but at the most a feudal landlord/tenant relationship, is still endorsed and tolerated by Yehovah Elohim, and as such I need to go along with it, as I am His subject.

But if and when the Roman beast power that's in charge of the USA defaults on Yehovah Elohim's law requirements completely, for example by establishing a National Sunday Law as described here, then I will probably return the WARRANTY DEED and its survey to the US and claim allodial ownership of the land itself as agent of Yehovah Elohim, based on the resulting trust which forms upon the default of the current trustee.
That's all contingent on me being around of course.

One aspect of this model - obvious to me anyway from a reading of the Book of Acts - is that Paul spent the last five years of life forming Roman custody law; the Welfare State. I do a lot of reading between the lines.

It strikes me that Felix in Tyre was dealing anew with the idea that a Roman citizen needed protective custody and protection from the Jews, the Sanhedrin, for that same citizenship. So Felix put Paul in jail for two years and as the rabbis were still determined to kill Paul on sight, remanded Paul to Rome. Some time later, while in protective custody and living on the Roman taxpayer dole Paul wrote the Book of Romans where we find Romans 13.

I have determined that this context is important while examining such issues as you say Treefarmer.

[allodial]

This might be helpful in that historical context.

"Now I say, [That] the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all; But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father."

Galatians 4:1-2.

On a more 'fantastical' note, in the movie Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief the story pertains to a demi-god who doesn't really know who or what he is and he is under the protection of parents and tutors who fully know who/what he is but don't outright tell him. Interestingly, Percy Jackson has special power over water and is a son of Poseidon (got 'admiralty'?).

Note the emergency weapon: a pen.

Interestingly, Herman Mellville may have seen perceived some kind of relation to the mythological Perseus and whale (leviathan?) hunting:

Also...interestingly enough the link with Perseus and Ethiopia and a King Cepheus (father) a Queen Cassiopeia.

On the way back to Seriphos Island, Perseus stopped in the kingdom of Ethiopia. This mythical Ethiopia was ruled by King Cepheus and Queen Cassiopeia. Cassiopeia, having boasted her daughter Andromeda equal in beauty to the Nereids, drew down the vengeance of Poseidon, who sent an inundation on the land and a sea serpent, Cetus, which destroyed man and beast. The oracle of Ammon announced that no relief would be found until the king exposed his daughter Andromeda to the monster, and so she was fastened naked to a rock on the shore. Perseus slew the monster and, setting her free, claimed her in marriage.

Somehow...seems related.

[shikamaru]

Wouldn't this make Andromeda and her parents black?

Ethiopia means 'burned face'.

[bobbinville]

In most states, you have General Warranty, Special Warranty and Quitclaim deeds. Massachusetts uses different terminology; but the effect is the same. Here's what www.buyersbrokersonly

[David Merrill]

...the only time that you will see a release or bargain and sale deed is when you are buying from a government, an executor, or at a foreclosure sale.

This is supportive that government owns it all through cestui que vie trust action.

[Michael Joseph]

This is supportive that government owns it all through cestui que vie trust action.

Has anyone ever laid eyes on the document that made known with precise knowing the meaning of the nouns Capitalized within that Preamble. Until that day- I maintain the Sovereign was the Power that setup that Constitution as a BUSINESS PLAN - my model is Rome d.b.a. United States.

Clearly I have never seen that record and as such, I must then say I cannot have any trust in that Preamble or that Constitution as I lack knowledge as to what is the basis of the Contract. But then clearly, if a Congress creates a NAME, then that NAME is an "in rem" vessel - I model it as a Trust wherein certain Accounts are held mediately within said Trust. But the "in rem" vessel or THING is the Property of its Creator. In effect making its end user a Constitutor.

Until that day we shall each have our models. I model "We the People" as the ones who actually pledged their estates united together to provide surety for their business plan. I see the nation-state as a super-massive business corporation. So in my model I might ask you - how do you Occupy within - and I might issue Certificates of Occupation.

I convene my court totally without the United States - as I must - else in my model I would be trespassing the United States if I brought suit against one of its Agencies or Departments within its own court. 12(b)(6). The United States has all the authority in the world to hear a matter in one of its Creation.

I continue to lack understanding as to how one might gain ownership in totality if both the legal and the equitable titles were returned to the United States Treasury. There are many estates - Real and Personal and Usufructuary. So one must comprehend the nature of the estate one is touching upon.

If one makes a bargain to take or seize and that one makes a use of State property to acquire said property [property = rights], then the property cannot alienate but remains in State, yet the bargain alienates certain rights to the end user by prior agreement.

So then, why would I bring a suit against one of the Agencies or the Departments of the United States within the United States? Seems more likely that one would bring a controversy into the World Court. However, that begs the question, does one have an agreement with the United States such that a breach in trust has occured? If not, then the judge will just dismiss for lack of proper claim.

So then the only avenue left is TORT. But specifically what is the Tort claim? And is not that commercial? Or maybe it is not! Maybe it is a libel or a harm in your body or a trespass upon your dominion - the latter begs a boundary - else how is it fair to say your dominion is the universe when clearly you recognize other beings thru your five senses.

And yet those Capital words do plague the reader. How can a conscious man place his trust in a writing that is undefined absent Faith? So one who might argue for a Constitution that he clearly does not comprehend places his full faith into the rendering of that Constitution by the Officers or Judges.

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My daddy used to create tasks for me to do around the house when I was a child. When I would sometimes rebel he would issue disciplinary measures. As long as I remained in his house, he had the authority but later when I left his house and cleaved to my wife whereby she and I created a new house and the children [analogy of State would be "in rem" Persons] were under our authority.

Now then consider if my Great........Great......Great......Grandaddy pledged to another his Seed in servitude, then in fact the child in my house is subject to me but I would be subject to another. I find this principle herein:

Heb 7:9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes through Abraham.
Heb 7:10 For he was yet in the loins of his ancestral father, when Melchisedec met him.

Naboth's Garden was his DNA - and my Dad and Mom pass that to me in 46 chromosomes. So I inherit the good and the bad.

I find a law of love that renders coerced slavery to be repugnant; however, I wonder about voluntary slavery. If you an I had a controversy would you think to bring your controversy into my court?

Why I would just dismiss it for frivolity!

Go get married and raise up your own children!

No if a State is bankrupt then it is just a commercial organization! And if the bondholder in due course [which I believe to be an International Banker] demands payment from the Trustee, then let the trustee pay the bill. ATLAS SHRUGGED. Demand is made for lawful money in accord with 12USC411 and 12USC95a(2). Now let us expose the illusion shall we? If the wizard shows his face to take - for what cause is the taking? Isn't that NAME a vessel of the United States? Of course it is! Therefore the NAME is a child of its parent.




Shalom,
MJ

[David Merrill]

Demand is made for lawful money in accord with 12USC411 and 12USC95a(2). Now let us expose the illusion shall we?

Thank you Michael Joseph!

Check out CITIZENSHIP OF PRINCIPAL PARTIES.

[Chex]

What lawyer is going to verify that congressional law, public acts are not true? It will be interesting to see how the answer.

http://robcourtofrecord.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/judge-orders-attorneys-answer-to-complaint-verified/

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