The East India Company: The Original Corporate Raiders

[allodial]

The (British) East India Company: The Original Corporate Raiders
For a century, the East India Company conquered, subjugated and plundered vast tracts of south Asia. The lessons of its brutal reign have never been more relevant

*ARMY*{but who was the BEIC an agent of?}Source/more)

Related:
Commodore Perry and Japan (1853-1854)

[David Merrill]

Thanks again.

I was viewing that in terms of Dutch v. British rule over VOC. Either way, as you point out, a breach of trust to have a privately operated military force.

[David Merrill]

P.S. This brings up the history of Executive Order, especially warring without the prior approval of Congress. More recently I would say the execution of the three-day Bankers' Holiday upon 30-day Judgment of my Bill of Exchange; like I have pointed out, 371 years after my ancestral patent. I recall the 1917 Trading with the Enemy Act being cited while BUSH rammed the new War on Terrorism down Congress' throat.


I am of course anxious that somebody may mention the dead Presidents at my feet to the Secret Service:

I have mentioned WASHINGTON and even entertain the esoteric that George was killed in New York early in the Revolution, and replaced with Adam WEISHAUPT; albeit not seriously enough to defend. But we might examine some of the mischief arising out of killing LINCOLN prior to him declaring the Extraordinary Occasion over...

Pennsylvania - ROBINSON V COUNTRYWIDE

I recall noting at the time, 153 years (the first Cube Sum Number Lock after 1) passing between April 15, 1861 and 2014.




It is most fetching how thin the veneer might actually be, between the Constitution (extraordinary occasion clause) and the original Charter of 1629?

[Michael Joseph]

The phantom of the opera in the perfect image of a priest.

[David Merrill]

You make me wish I had paid more attention to the metaphors.



P.S. Zechariah transfigured across the Veil, only to become mute for the gestation period of John the Baptist. Is this so that uttering the Name of the Prophet would not interfere with the Creation Process?

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Dutch West Indies company was chiefly
to exploit the indigenous peoples pun intended Starting a New World Order in 1654 New Amsterdam and Newport Rhode Island as the D-W-I-C headquarters yet the commercial instinctive truth is our merchandising monopoly
were prevented by ordinances issued by governor of NEW YORK forbearance
in the domestic economy however no federal reservations or reserves act yet. Discretion was
quickly discovered that the territory inhabited by the
Indians would be a fertile field there were no laws preventing the Dutch W I co from
trading with the Indians.The trading with the enigmatic enemies act was a few beads barrels blankets away.Carpetbaggers a ALEXANDER HAMILTON process was in the new world.A revolutionary war and a few more masonic lodges later we got a commercial constitution a paper freedom that only bye signature and citizenship the declaration and state has been prepared bill of lading or Bill of rights its in exchange for what DEMAND or DEBT Tribe of Danny Boy the pipes a major factor is materialistic gain what does one gain with this knowledge that truth will set things right or beyond materialistic truth and its freedom to set a soul free,Greed has everything to gain for the greedy should i be surprised with spiritual greed .Do i need a lawful excuse to refuse legal judgement can i pay to the order do i belong too this order.Questioned freedoms and bills of exchange trading with the enemy endorsed signatories land titles treatises or trespassing. Profiteering Privateers the water mark its as pagan and as private as this kingdom can be yours beneath one materialistic sky however lookup the competition this flight has been commercially oversold .Delivered = Accounting who pays for ignorance the claimant.Who ignores the claimant becomes the claim . Masonic lodge and or Haudenosaunee longhouse 1722 (or thereabouts), the Tuscarora Nation from the region known as North Carolina, was admitted to the Confederacy under the sponsorship of the Oneida Nation. The Five Nations of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy thus became the Six Nations. The people of the Six Nations, also known by the French term, [Iroquois ] Confederacy, call themselves the Hau de no sau nee (ho dee noe sho nee) meaning People Building a Long House. Located in the northeastern region of North America, originally the Six Nations was five and included the Mohawks, Oneidas, Onondagas, Cayugas, and Senecas. The sixth nation, the Tuscaroras, migrated into Iroquois country in the early eighteenth century. Together these peoples comprise the oldest living participatory democracy on earth. Their story, and governance truly based on the consent of the governed, contains a great deal of life-promoting intelligence for those of us not familiar with this area of American history. The original United States representative democracy, fashioned by such central authors as Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, drew much inspiration from this confederacy of nations. In our present day, we can benefit immensely, in our quest to establish anew a government truly dedicated to all life's liberty and happiness much as has been practiced by the Six Nations for over 800 hundred years. Nations were formed for commercial trade with this in mind trading a foreign state or interstate controlled commerce . Regarding the origination of the word Iroquois,
Another matter that surprised many contemporary observers was the Iroquois' sophisticated use of oratory. Their excellence with the spoken word, among other attributes, often caused Colden and others to compare the Iroquois to the Romans and Greeks. The French use of the term Iroquois to describe the confederacy was itself related to this oral tradition; it came from the practice of ending their orations with the two words hiro and kone. The first meant "I say" or "I have said" and the second was an exclamation of joy or sorrow according to the circumstances of the speech. The two words, joined and made subject to French pronunciation, became Iroquois. The English were often exposed to the Iroquois' oratorical skills at eighteenth-century treaty councils. Yankee slick pass the talking stick.

[David Merrill]

Dutch West Indies company was chiefly
to exploit the indigenous peoples pun intended Starting a New World Order in 1654...

The trading with the enigmatic enemies act...


The two words, joined and made subject to French pronunciation, became Iroquois. The English were often exposed to the Iroquois' oratorical skills at eighteenth-century treaty councils. Yankee slick pass the talking stick.

Trading with the Enigmatic Enemies Act (1917) - It is tempting but I will refrain from stealing that.

Thank you for the Canadian perspective! Here we have all land westward of an eastern seaboard river granted to the US by the Iroquois Federation. - I thinks this is the perfect example of your point:




Feeding on the ignorance about geography makes me wonder how the cajoling PETERS was affiliated with the VOC?



P.S. I have long associated the Treaty of Fort Stanwix with "consecration of the altar" as in sanctifying the transplant vineyard.

[David Merrill]

Creation and communication are synonyms. Only beings of like order can truly communicate.


P.P.S.

https://youtu.be/ooomyvwkUkc

https://youtu.be/bRBiolyAREQ

[David Merrill]

Dutch West Indies company was chiefly
to exploit the indigenous peoples pun intended Starting a New World Order in 1654 New Amsterdam and Newport Rhode Island as the D-W-I-C headquarters yet the commercial instinctive truth is our merchandising monopoly
were prevented by ordinances issued by governor of NEW YORK forbearance
in the domestic economy however no federal reservations or reserves act yet. Discretion was
quickly discovered that the territory inhabited by the
Indians would be a fertile field there were no laws preventing the Dutch W I co from
trading with the Indians.The trading with the enigmatic enemies act was a few beads barrels blankets away.Carpetbaggers a ALEXANDER HAMILTON process was in the new world.A revolutionary war and a few more masonic lodges later we got a commercial constitution a paper freedom that only bye signature and citizenship the declaration and state has been prepared bill of lading or Bill of rights its in exchange for what DEMAND or DEBT Tribe of Danny Boy the pipes a major factor is materialistic gain what does one gain with this knowledge that truth will set things right or beyond materialistic truth and its freedom to set a soul free,Greed has everything to gain for the greedy should i be surprised with spiritual greed .Do i need a lawful excuse to refuse legal judgement can i pay to the order do i belong too this order.Questioned freedoms and bills of exchange trading with the enemy endorsed signatories land titles treatises or trespassing. Profiteering Privateers the water mark its as pagan and as private as this kingdom can be yours beneath one materialistic sky however lookup the competition this flight has been commercially oversold .Delivered = Accounting who pays for ignorance the claimant.Who ignores the claimant becomes the claim . Masonic lodge and or Haudenosaunee longhouse 1722 (or thereabouts), the Tuscarora Nation from the region known as North Carolina, was admitted to the Confederacy under the sponsorship of the Oneida Nation. The Five Nations of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy thus became the Six Nations. The people of the Six Nations, also known by the French term, [Iroquois ] Confederacy, call themselves the Hau de no sau nee (ho dee noe sho nee) meaning People Building a Long House. Located in the northeastern region of North America, originally the Six Nations was five and included the Mohawks, Oneidas, Onondagas, Cayugas, and Senecas. The sixth nation, the Tuscaroras, migrated into Iroquois country in the early eighteenth century. Together these peoples comprise the oldest living participatory democracy on earth. Their story, and governance truly based on the consent of the governed, contains a great deal of life-promoting intelligence for those of us not familiar with this area of American history. The original United States representative democracy, fashioned by such central authors as Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, drew much inspiration from this confederacy of nations. In our present day, we can benefit immensely, in our quest to establish anew a government truly dedicated to all life's liberty and happiness much as has been practiced by the Six Nations for over 800 hundred years. Nations were formed for commercial trade with this in mind trading a foreign state or interstate controlled commerce . Regarding the origination of the word Iroquois,
Another matter that surprised many contemporary observers was the Iroquois' sophisticated use of oratory. Their excellence with the spoken word, among other attributes, often caused Colden and others to compare the Iroquois to the Romans and Greeks. The French use of the term Iroquois to describe the confederacy was itself related to this oral tradition; it came from the practice of ending their orations with the two words hiro and kone. The first meant "I say" or "I have said" and the second was an exclamation of joy or sorrow according to the circumstances of the speech. The two words, joined and made subject to French pronunciation, became Iroquois. The English were often exposed to the Iroquois' oratorical skills at eighteenth-century treaty councils. Yankee slick pass the talking stick.

Interesting how you have mixed useful history into suggestion and allegorical metaphors. Thank you. I am picking this apart sentence by sentence.

[allodial]

Note: By the time you reach the end of the post, its important to have in mind that it was the (Roman Catholic) Habsburgs that were outsed during the Dutch Revolution.
It might be helpful to consider that DEIC, DWIC and BEIC may have been each 'states' in fact. Or as Philip J. Stern put it regarding BEIC specifically: "A State in the Disguise of a Merchant" (entered as titled to a segment of a book).

The authority for BEIC in India had to do with a Portugese cession regarding Portugese India. Let it be very clear that alongside BEIC or VOC/DEIC/DEWC there was the Portuguese East India CompanyRe:xparte, treatment of "natives"
Was DEIC and DEWC though allegedly of a Protestant nation simply carrying out Roman Catholic Canon law? As in did they incorporated it or adopt it despite all appearances, allegations or notions to the contrary?

Re: Enemy
Perhaps that means "enemy of Christ" though the meaning of the term may have varied wildly.

One of the justifications for enslavement was the concept of "enemies of Christ", who could be enslaved according to a series of Papal bulls. This tended to be very widely interpreted to include, as well as Muslims, Eastern Orthodox Christians in military situations, and Slavs, Africans and Americans who opposed conversion.

So begs the question, from a neutral observer-spectator perspective, what might any of this have to do with the actual identity of the harlot in the Book of Revelations and not just the identify of the harlot but of her children or daughters (ala Book of Revelations)? How do events which play out after the 1700s relate to the rise of or permitting of the proliferation of speculative religion?

Did BEIC and VOC borrow from the Holy Roman Empire model?

Related:

• The Truth About the Catholic Church and Slavery (The problem wasn't that the leadership was silent. It was that almost nobody listened)
• Slavery Incorporated Into (Roman Catholic) Canon Law - Catholic Church and Slavery (touches upon Islam and more)
• Dum Diversas

P.S. Though there may be zero connection, note the similarity....

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The flag of the Gujarat Sultanate (of India)

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The flag of Washington, D.C. with its three stars (or triple crown?)

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The flag of Austria.


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George Washington coat of arms.


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But then again, there was such a thing as Habsburg India and .. the Austrian East India Company. Was the 'obsession' with India to do with gaining sovereignty or right of control over "Indians". What was India's relation or connection to Egypt or Ethiopia? (a very interesting one no doubt)

[BLBereans]

So begs the question, from a neutral observer-spectator perspective, what might any of this have to do with the actual identity of the harlot in the Book of Revelations and not just the identify of the harlot but of her children or daughters (ala Book of Revelations)? How do events which play out after the 1700s relate to the rise of or permitting of the proliferation of speculative religion?

Gnosticism/Humanism rears it's ugly head again...

from this source

Thomas Harris (1967/1973)



On the surface such a statement on the value of humans suggests a high level of morality. In
reality, it lacks all virtue since there is no longer any external ?measuring stick, no objective law
which determines such absolute definitions. All of history recounts what happens to persons
when subjective feelings are used as the ?final solution? in defining the worth of individuals.
Adoration degenerates to mere respect and finally to contempt with its logical and awful
consequences. Jonas (1958) lays the blame for such anthropological degeneracy at the feet of
Gnostic teaching:



At its worst, humanism is seen as human nature possessing a core of evil; at its best, humanism
can only generate a pseudo-value system since the formulation of values is simply a subjective
experience with some sort of governmental entity as the final social arbitrator. But when these
forms of governance arbitrate, it tends to bring out this inherently evil human core rather than the
hoped for idealistic peace so sought after by the humanist. The end result of this is a subjective
subjectivity, a sort of sophisticated solipsism or, more classically, an existential view of reality.
The existential, nihilistic, humanistic world-view then brings us to the door of Fourth Force
Psychology. For the mystical religions of the East claim to hold an answer for the ultimate
humanistic dilemma.

and further...

The religions of the West are not sufficiently esoteric to be included in a ?science of psychology,
a concept which must be maintained for psychology to remain credible in this culture. Thus a
?fourth force in psychology has emerged to provide this ?science of the soul with a tie to the
religions of the East. Note how the various Eastern religions of today try to pass themselves off
as scientific (Yoga, faddish Transcendental Meditation, and Zen Buddhism) in the same way that
the Gnostics who were quasi-scientific for their age tried to be identified as religious. Those who
are encouraging this merging of science and religion describe the trend in this way:



The Gnostic influence here is unmistakable. The password used to gain entrance into our
sophisticated scientific age by those wearing the cloak of religion is quantum physics. Emerging
from this is a new psychology, Fourth Force Psychology, which is represented as a ?science of
consciousness (Pelletier, 1978, pp. 32-66). This is exactly what the ancients experienced as
metaphysics (Aristotle) or speculative physics, the same concept that was used in the earlier
discussion of nature philosophy.

Therefore psychology has come full circle from speculative religion (the Eastern mysteries)
through speculative philosophy (the Greeks), speculative science (the Gnostics), speculations
concerning human nature (dualism), speculative philosophy again (Freudian and Jungian
psychoanalysis), speculative human nature again (humanistic psychology), speculative science
again (quantum physics), and finally to speculative religion (the Eastern mysteries).
The underlying problem to this circular dilemma is how humanity has handled the Gospel.
This was the problem of the Gnostics in specific and humankind as a whole both before Christ
and after. When the Resurrection is considered the central theme in Christian doctrine (I
Corinthians 15) the distinction is clear between what Christ taught and experienced and what the
Gnostics, Eastern mystics, and modern metaphysicists speculate. It is the case of the
Resurrection versus a belief in reincarnation.

Reincarnation is implied in Gnosticism and certainly represents the basis of Eastern
religions. Life becomes extremely insignificant to the Gnostic and the Eastern mystic, but to the
Christian life is the basis of resurrection. Life is real and the world is real. We begin at
conception but we die in the end, at death. It is only the Resurrection of Christ that gives life. All
is not an illusion; we are not an emanation; we do not reincarnate or transmigrate. Life is
important and, indeed, it is all that we have.

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[David Merrill]

That touches on a point that I discovered in high school contemplating life with my buddies.

Before the phone and TV I would have relied on somebody, usually a stranger for news about what was happening where he had been. - From wherever he had come traveling. I would of course repeat what he had said and this "gossip" would become news. If he lied to me, I would lie to others. If somebody had lied to him, he would be lying to me in turn...

So it seems that a man was actually held to a higher standard about his honor and word back in the "crude" time of the past, of which you speak. The day of social media emotionalism was preceded by a Western Bible Belt (Colorado Springs) wave of Prophets and then a spasmic Patriot Guru named Tim TURNER (in prison until 2027 I hear). It really amazed me how one named Monte JUDAH made some prophecies, then admitted to his following he was a false prophet when they failed, and still had the exact same following. But what really got me was watching all the false prophets during that charismatic phase just ignore or somehow rationalize that the transform through which they were interpreting information was simply something other than the Holy Spirit of God. And the congregants would ignorantly just brush it off too.

[allodial]

That is why the primary instruction for discerning the spirits was a question as to whether Jesus/Y'shua the Anointed came in the flesh or not. Because to deny that would be to deny the incarnation, death, resurrection and ascension altogether. Clearly there are those who hold or who have held to the notion of only a 'wraith like' or 'spirit form' having come or, alternatively, the idea that he never came ever. Falling for mere manifestations of power or psychic experience isn't sufficient.

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. --1 John 4:3 (KJV)

So that entire camp that denies he and the Messiah ever came is described by reference (they are waiting for a different Messiah--whether they call him "Christ" or "He" or "Him" is irrelevant). Could there be such a thing as subscribers to a proverbial Worthless Shepherd function?

[David Merrill]

Could there be such a thing as subscribers to a proverbial Worthless Shepherd function?

This could go somewhere and get right back to the Topic because I have integrated the Worthless Shepherd prophecy into my interpretation of the Book of Mark. The attached rendition is suggested by The Nazarene Gospel Restored and is a slight rearrangement of Zechariah verses so to explain how the Worthless Shepherd Prophecy effected the events at the Last Supper.

In context or alone like I quoted you, I am getting nowhere matching up a "Worthless Shepherd function" with your point. Albeit I am intrigued. My habit is to find reproducible mental models (math) and apply the math to discover useful revelation behind otherwise encrypted parable; dispelling ILLUSION.

ILLUSION

1) parable
2) myth
3) fable
4) hallucination
5) legend

The list goes on and on but I like categories of FIVE.