DL was NOT provided or used as ID

"Licensing is the best means to determine that drivers meet a minimal standard of competence. It is a justifiable, reasonable and desireable exercise of the police power of the State." State v. Skurdal 235 Mont. 291 http://www.mediafire.com/?a0i6gxaac89af4s

By sworn and subscribed affidavit state that you gave notice to the police officer of the capacity under which the DL was in use and it is your will and intent that no other capacity other than that of it being proof of competency was in operation at the time. What are they going to do, rebut it?

[allodial]

If TURNER had funded bonds then maybe things would have turned out differently.

He's promulgating the use of Bishop Bonds, but yet he--. It probably goes without question that Tim Turner's level of competence comes to question as does the question as to whether he on the Misinformation Squad. Re: Tim Turner, there are questions that could start "If he really knew what he was doing..." or "Since he knows what he is doing why is he misleading...".

The RAP and Travel Warrants are clearly an attempt thwart remedy through planned negative propaganda--aka "Conspiracy Against Rights", "psychological operations" or "propaganda".

[Metheist]

Code words and esoteric knowledge feels good, but in the end, it comes down to the matter that the "State" can't have it both ways. Either there are facts, and an "impartial" adjudicator, or there is not.

I got a chuckle out of the cop telling you that what you say "doesn't mean anything..."

I'd ask him to prove that in their kangaroo court...

But, I'm sadistic when it comes to court proceedings...

[David Merrill]

Ahh yes, I recall the story, hope he is healing well.

Are you wanting me to snatize soem refused for cause documents David ?

If so, I do not have any at my disposal, they were done rather simplistic. Soem that I have done I have not even opened up the leters/notices, just wrote on their envelope and slipped it back into the mail.

Now I do a simple return to sender, only because if you do a refused for cause, the assumption is that you are the principal/trustee, and assume the Military post is the residence, hence the issuence of warrants.

One must break the ties with the body corporate, you were initiated into at birth. Your body and all other personal and real property was pledged to the state, thus a subrogation at birth from original blood line was terminated, and under the doctrine of parens patriae, you were adopted into the Nation, yes a bastard child.

Once we were of age, and decided to contract on our own, we engaged the system on the wrong side, thus an enemy of the state, and no right to redress, only broken down simple little commercial remedies.

As for the DL, is it needed, I believe not, but since you are on the wrong side, the public needs to be bonded (indemnified).

So Winston Shrout had some good ideas, but the only issue was, how to get to the actual bond that the Bank of Canada are holding ?
How could one BOND the public via the original pledge ?

When the SIN became active and beneifts were offered under it, the State took over and thus you lost your right to access the bond, thus for it to work, the BOND has to be accepted by the other party (Body Corporate), and you must leave the liability with them.

People claiming to travel without a DL, Insurance and plate are just looking for trouble, and in the case of a mishap, the public is not indemnified (third party insurnace), that is all they care about, if you have insured the public against any wrong doing from you.

Peace

Padre

These two posts play well off one another.

Who's looking for trouble? ;-)

There recently was a parking patrol officer admiring my non-plate so much so that he brought a co-worker all the way out just to show him.

Padre suggests that by understanding the trust structure you can be a responsible beneficiary. Whereas I have experience with "non-plate" adventures, including jail time.

If you can show a bond - like suggested - then you show responsibility. Therefore you might get by with a plate that displays an account number for at least $30K in escrow - in contemplation of an accident. RAP/RuSA was distributing Travel Warrants - they called them. But there never has been any funding behind RAP/RuSA. So they are bogus driver licenses. If TURNER had funded bonds then maybe things would have turned out differently.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[EZrhythm]

Who's looking for trouble? ;-)

There recently was a parking patrol officer admiring my non-plate so much so that he brought a co-worker all the way out just to show him.

[padreilluminato]

Ahh yes, I recall the story, hope he is healing well.

Are you wanting me to snatize soem refused for cause documents David ?

If so, I do not have any at my disposal, they were done rather simplistic. Soem that I have done I have not even opened up the leters/notices, just wrote on their envelope and slipped it back into the mail.

Now I do a simple return to sender, only because if you do a refused for cause, the assumption is that you are the principal/trustee, and assume the Military post is the residence, hence the issuence of warrants.

One must break the ties with the body corporate, you were initiated into at birth. Your body and all other personal and real property was pledged to the state, thus a subrogation at birth from original blood line was terminated, and under the doctrine of parens patriae, you were adopted into the Nation, yes a bastard child.

Once we were of age, and decided to contract on our own, we engaged the system on the wrong side, thus an enemy of the state, and no right to redress, only broken down simple little commercial remedies.

As for the DL, is it needed, I believe not, but since you are on the wrong side, the public needs to be bonded (indemnified).

So Winston Shrout had some good ideas, but the only issue was, how to get to the actual bond that the Bank of Canada are holding ?
How could one BOND the public via the original pledge ?

When the SIN became active and beneifts were offered under it, the State took over and thus you lost your right to access the bond, thus for it to work, the BOND has to be accepted by the other party (Body Corporate), and you must leave the liability with them.

People claiming to travel without a DL, Insurance and plate are just looking for trouble, and in the case of a mishap, the public is not indemnified (third party insurnace), that is all they care about, if you have insured the public against any wrong doing from you.

Peace

Padre

[David Merrill]

Any updates on this ?

Basically. The update is that this is the same Anthony Joseph benched for a bit due to a nasty cut on his leg.

[David Merrill]

The drawback might become obvious with your next LEO encounter. - A bench warrant for Failure to Appear.

Maybe not though. Thanks for sharing. Could you please sanitize (Paint works well) some images for us?

[padreilluminato]

Any updates on this ?
I know I have walked a few others through the R4C method, made it quite simple for them.

I do not care to make a repository for proof, and I do not care much as to be offering them a nice R4C registered envelope with the original issue and a notice.

I have done several R4C and instructed a few others with a simple writing on their original envelope presentment.

The one that was done about 4 months ago now was quite simple, it was also a traffic ticket and was sent back to original R4C Nunc Pro Tunc.
The individual was then in receipt of a notice which they made a determination the Ticket was in dispute and thus a court date would be assigned and the original R4C ticket was also returned to the individual. With a little more guidance, it was suggested he place all the documents back into another envelope but to make sure all the documents were marked R4C.

That was over 4 months ago, no other following letter for a scheduled court date, not a word.

Also instructed another to do the same, but some people like to flair it up a bit...lol
Never the less, it has been over a month now and no word or action has been taken.

Having proof of the process for R4C is also very crucial, but in these 2 circumstances it was not needed and the desired outcome was achieved.

Peace

PAdre

[allodial]

Perhaps consider a well-written letter appointing {DIRECTOR OF DMV/STATE REVENUE} as fiduciary for settling and closing the accounting associated with any cases cases in State of {STATE-NAME} associated with the DL/ID entity.

Anthony Joseph

VIA MAIL/FACSIMILE
To: {DMV Director Name & Address or the like}

Fiduciary Appointment.
I, ___________________________, on behalf of

SMITH ANTHONY J
DL or Tax ID # 12345495959595
c/o _____, hereinafter "the Driver"

I do hereby:

* authoritatively appoint you fiduciary for settling and closing the accounting associated with any and all cases or proceedings in the State of ___ which involve the Driver;
* accept and return any and all charges being made against the Driver by any agent or officer of the State of _______________.

Signature of the Driver: {Antony Joseph) for SMITH ANTHONY J

[Richard Earl]

Thank you for sharing. Right now, I see no plaintiff and no judge asssigned.

[David Merrill]

The correspondence on 5/18 - that was likely an electronic transaction to the DoR that sent you the Notice you showed us.

Thanks for scouting it first. This should be good! Thanks for sharing the record.

Here is a "civil inquiry" screen shot of the docket associated with this matter.




D-6 CASE FILE LABEL CREATED

No judge assigned here and no mention of my process. It looks like they are treating this as if someone ignored the "ticket" and did nothing. They want someone to show up in order to reinstate. I can, at that time make sure that my process was not ignored and then proceed with my instructions for having the trustee settle this "charge" and reinstate the DL. If the judge forces me to do it, I will be prepared for that and it will be on the record.

[David Merrill]

I do not intend to continue with an expired license. I intend to be dropped off at the DL bureau/courthouse and inquire about helping to settle the matter and reinstate the DL in the manner described herein, prepared with cash or check in hand, so I am not pulled over in the future and experience the scenarios you depict. I cannot conceive how that action on my part (walking into DL/court as a friend to help) will end up in an arrest. I do, however, sincerely appreciate the advice, help and concern about that as I feel it is genuine and heartfelt.

If I decide to not scout it out first and end up handcuffed, it will be my own responsibility for that decision.

My point is this: if the judge has, as you say, a bench warrant waiting for an 'appearance of the person', then I am still in the same boat as I am now. I will have to choose to continue on without a valid DL card and hope to avoid being pulled over, or, I will have to at some point try to help settle the matter which will result in an arrest. My scouting of that information doesn't change the scenario; the same circumstances will remain as they are now and all that is left is the decision by me about which way to go. Either go on without it, or face possible arrest for walking in and attempting to help settle.

If arrest is awaiting, I cannot avoid it no matter what intelligence I gather before hand, unless I decide to walk the path that Michael Joseph and Chex have offered as an alternative. Even that choice could result in arrest, however, they will be forever stuck by "no arraignment".

The paragraph in red does not agree with my logic. Therefore I gather your wife or a pal is not readily available to go to the courthouse and scout for you. I agree, that the clerk in Records will call Security as quickly as the Clerk in Filing or the clerk in chambers for the judge on your alleged case.

The scout would be carrying an audio recorder and camera. In the alternative so will you be. I am not concerned that you are trying to put responsibility onto me about this. You cannot even if you were the type to AJ. My concern is selfish - at least to this thread being edifying - that the deputy sheriff will delete or confiscate your Record that you will hopefully be sharing here. If you get it taken away, then you cannot share it and will be telling us your account instead of showing us what actually went down.

This is just traffic stuff but it can get nasty as you are dealing with the DoR.

...A friend of mine put the DL and Registration on the dashboard and told the Police Officer you may take them for your beneficial use...

I've been imagining how this might play out:

Man: Officer, I am recording audio of this encounter. How may I help you.

Officer: License, registration, and proof of insurance.

Man: The documents that you mention do not belong to me. The DL and registration belong to the State, and the insurance card belongs to the insurance company. I will not give to you their documents because these are not mine to give. However, I will place them on the roof of this car where you may retrieve them for your inspection. Perhaps their information that is found on their documents will be of benefit to you.

Officer: What is your name and place of residence?


Man: My name is [True Name]. I have no place of residence.

Officer: Your DL says you live at 123 Apple Ave.

Man: The record speaks for itself - not for me. As I revealed earlier, the DL does not belong to me. I do not describe myself by way of someone else's property.

Perhaps the officer will rather not be bothered and let Man go. Perhaps the officer will write a ticket. In any case, it would be nice to have an audio recording of such an encounter.