New Promissory note

[mikecz]

(If I missed any sanitizing, please let me know)

So now keen on lawful money, I look for the phrase whenever I'm reading anything. That along with "Dollars of the United States", "Federal Reserve Note", "Person", etc. Anyways, I was reviewing a new commercial loan I received (I know, loans are bad), but I was interested in what I read in the first section "Promise to Pay." They make the "borrower" in the note, me, promise to pay the "lender", a credit union "pay to, or order, in LAWFUL MONEY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA."

I think they do this so as not to pay tax, or to possibly use the funds received as a reserve for further lending, I just thought it was interesting. They pay in FRN's yet want Lawful money back...

[Chex]

That's not the first contract I seen like this. Have to dig in my files for the ones I latched onto. Reminds me of this post from mikecz. http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showt...ull=1#post9912

[mikecz]

That's not the first contract I seen like this. Have to dig in my files for the ones I latched onto. Reminds me of this post from mikecz. http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showt...ull=1#post9912

Yup, I remember that one...

But, what if I crossed out "Lawful money" and replaced it with "Federal Reserve notes" or "elastic currency". They would say, "You can't do that"... I would respond, "Well, FRNs are lawful money, it says it on their website!"

[Keith Alan]

Nice find, and wow! "Borrower agrees not to send payments marked "paid in full" or "without recourse" or similar language. "

What if you agreed with all rights reserved?

[David Merrill]

I wonder if you could use that to avoid paying back any interest?

(I'm not suggesting you mess with the loan. Like you point out, you are in a subservient position.)

My pondering is about diversity of citizenship. In biblical terms they (Israel) are offering you FRN's as a stranger or foreigner. Then they make the righteous demand that you give them only kosher currency in return. [Like I always say, lawful money is US notes in the form of Federal Reserve notes.]

Deu 23:20 Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

Note: ...feign self to be another,

Do you start to get how true name and redemption go together?

What I was imagining is that you treat them like they mistook you for a stranger (nakar = nokriy = noachide) and now pay them back as a brother.

There was an old Jew and neither the Temple or the Messianics would bail him out of the homeless shelter. I had stepped on a nail and had to stay off my feet anyway so I checked in. On the third day he came to me with a $310 bill! Nobody ever gets mail in the Shelter but somehow this guy gets a bill from the cardiologist that the nurse there took him to see! I walked him over to the phone and noticed that the it was from a Dr. GOLDSTIEN. I reached the nurse and asked why when the national debt is usury, why could a Dr. GOLDSTIEN be billing a Mr. FRIEDBURG? She gasped and said, I had no idea! A few keystrokes later she came back, His bill has been cleared from our records.

Another time a fellow was jailed for FTA but they picked him up before the hearing time. I used that part about Wronging by Use of Words. I faxed it directly to the sheriff and they released him.

The presumption is that you are a pagan under the Seven Noachide Laws. I do not say this strictly because it only makes sense to me in holographic archetypes. In other words God is a God of laws. The universe is held together by laws of nature and physics. So you will find the same truth all over the place because there is only truth - all else is illusion and has no love, only fear.

Try looking at it this way though. If you operate willingly in the abomination of false balances then during that term of slavery you are chattel and not allowed into the kingdom of heaven - the kingdom of heaven being the sensation I get whenever I radiate it. Being that I teach and promote people redeem lawful money I find I am in the kingdom of heaven quite a bit.

[Freed Gerdes]

This may just be an effort by the banks to further muddy the water and obscure the difference between lawful money and legal tender. Note that the distinction between lawful money and FRN's is only the demand, since the actual paper notes now circulate at parity, and the US Notes do not circulate at all. The Federal Reserve would like for everyone to just forget lawful money, as it is still in competition with their fake debt money, and they don't get to tax it... and whenever anyone figures out lawful money, they quickly figure out the voluntary debt servitude scam the banks have foisted on the 'US citizen' public. Or it could just be a variation on the requirement on B of A's account contract which requires all deposits to be in 'US currency;' they don't want to have to deal with loonies, euro's, etc, what with their variable rates of exchange. Also note that the credit union is likely going to accept the note for value and sell it, to raise the money they are going to loan to you, so you have already loaned your credit to the FR through the note; the bank may be intending to put your payments into a loan account for their own tracking purposes, but I doubt they will handle it as lawful money once they receive it.

[mikecz]

This may just be an effort by the banks to further muddy the water and obscure the difference between lawful money and legal tender. Note that the distinction between lawful money and FRN's is only the demand, since the actual paper notes now circulate at parity, and the US Notes do not circulate at all. The Federal Reserve would like for everyone to just forget lawful money, as it is still in competition with their fake debt money, and they don't get to tax it... and whenever anyone figures out lawful money, they quickly figure out the voluntary debt servitude scam the banks have foisted on the 'US citizen' public. Or it could just be a variation on the requirement on B of A's account contract which requires all deposits to be in 'US currency;' they don't want to have to deal with loonies, euro's, etc, what with their variable rates of exchange. Also note that the credit union is likely going to accept the note for value and sell it, to raise the money they are going to loan to you, so you have already loaned your credit to the FR through the note; the bank may be intending to put your payments into a loan account for their own tracking purposes, but I doubt they will handle it as lawful money once they receive it.

This credit union services and keeps 95% of it's loans. I think the note is more valuable written this way. Thank you for your insights. At some point I may prod around a bit a maybe ask about the verbage. I will followup if I do. David, this is great..."The universe is held together by laws of nature and physics. So you will find the same truth all over the place because there is only truth - all else is illusion and has no love, only fear." Only truth has love, that is evident, they are invariable wound together.


Also, speaking of US citizen, I came by a gem today (not to change the subject). I hadn't seen it on this forum so here!

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002

Read section 15 (A) for total validation. Everything having to do with that Federal Corporation is taxed. By the way, that Federal Corporation went bankrupt.

[Michael Joseph]

The presumption is that you are a pagan under the Seven Noachide Laws. I do not say this strictly because it only makes sense to me in holographic archetypes. In other words God is a God of laws. The universe is held together by laws of nature and physics. So you will find the same truth all over the place because there is only truth - all else is illusion and has no love, only fear.

Those who fear will not enter the Kingdom. I wrote the IRS years ago and maintained that I am Redeemed in Christ of the Tribes of Israel a member of the Commonwealth of Israel and a priest walking in the Order of Melchizedok. I never heard back from them ever again. I am redeemed.

Isa 52:3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money.


My TRUST is in my God and I rely upon His Word - it is my Life - it is my being - and I am a willing vessel for the glory of God - Here am I, send me - Yehovah use me to promote your Glory and to Glorify your Word in the Earth - which is to say Yehoshuah. I am redeemed in Yehoshuah to Yehovah within El Elyon.

Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

[David Merrill]

Redemption is full renewal of the mind.

Subscribe every thought unto obedience. If that does not give you joy and peace then you best contemplate the Name of whom you consider God.


The unity you describe reminds me how as we are integrated into God we become I AM. For example He trusts in Me as He has given Me His Name:

From The Name of God.

[David Merrill]

Those who fear will not enter the Kingdom. I wrote the IRS years ago and maintained that I am Redeemed in Christ of the Tribes of Israel a member of the Commonwealth of Israel and a priest walking in the Order of Melchizedok. I never heard back from them ever again. I am redeemed.

Isa 52:3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money.


My TRUST is in my God and I rely upon His Word - it is my Life - it is my being - and I am a willing vessel for the glory of God - Here am I, send me - Yehovah use me to promote your Glory and to Glorify your Word in the Earth - which is to say Yehoshuah. I am redeemed in Yehoshuah to Yehovah within El Elyon.

Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Within El Elyon? My guess is that this describes the Triune - the entire Godhead?

[Chex]

I wrote the IRS years ago and maintained that I am Redeemed in Christ of the Tribes of Israel a member of the Commonwealth of Israel and a priest walking in the Order of Melchizedok. I never heard back from them ever again. I am redeemed.

MJ don't get me wrong here but I don't think the irs cares one bit what religion you been redeemed from unless your going with the requirements for exemption.

Back in the day I too have written enough letters to the IRS asking questions and their reply answers were the 45 day letters, nothing in concrete evidence that I was asking for but the word frivolous. I never wrote letters pertaining to the subject like you did, I just wanted the facts and I think I know why they don't answer.

They are just the bookkeepers who collect a fee or dues levied on the members of an organization to meet its expenses for its persons, groups, or businesses within the domain of that government.

This statement here sort of put me in that direction of why they do not answer.

The statement.

Many young people believe that, because they are not old enough to vote, they have no representation in government and, therefore, should not be required to pay taxes.

The United States Congress is a body of elected representatives of the people.
Under our representative form of government, the Congress has the power to enact all laws (including Federal tax laws). http://www.usa.gov/Topics/Reference-Shelf/Laws.shtml

* The members of Congress speak and vote as representatives of all the people in their State or district, including those who did not vote.
* The IRS will not comment, though, on the legislative merits of current tax law, or on pending Congressional action that may change the tax code.

Finally, we make every effort to make certain that the information contained here is accurate, but due to the fluid nature of the legislative process, changes in tax laws may occur that are not reflected here at the time of publication.

To the best of our knowledge, this information is accurate.

You can read the rest of it here, http://www.treasury.gov/resource-cen...liability.aspx

So who then are they asking for the contribution from?

Make the check payable to the "United States Treasury."

In the memo field of the check, be sure to write "your" Social Security Number and indicate the year for which you are paying, for example "2013 Form 1040-ES." http://taxes.about.com/od/paymentopt...ated_tax_2.htm

Most know this is not a voluntary contribution it usury.

Also from http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showt...ll=1#post12505

[Michael Joseph]

Within El Elyon? My guess is that this describes the Triune - the entire Godhead?

To understand you have to read All of Hosea [the Great book on Salvation] and then you have to read All of Psalm 91.

Psa 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of El Elyon shall abide under the shadow of El Shaddai.
Psa 91:2 I will say of Yehovah, He is my refuge and my fortress: my Elohim; in him will I trust.

Simply put I will submit and obey - for I am a member of the corporate Bride and I shall no longer call Him master or Lord, I shall call him Husband. [Ishi].

Hos 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.

My life is in Trust with Yehoshuah. Therefore, I can celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles walking as a Living Stone in the Temple of God! I have no need for the Theosophic sun and moon - for the Father and the Son are the light thereof.

El Elyon is All in All the totality of the Elohim natures : Yehovah and El Shaddai : Honor thy Father and thy Mother. I am therefore BEING transformed into the Image of God. And Christ is the Totality of El Elyon EXPRESSED into form perceivable to the Angels and to Man.

Col 3:10 And having put on [like a garment] the new [regenerated] man, which is renewed in knowledge after the pattern of Him That created him:

Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian [the lowest type of barbarians], bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Did you catch that Renewed in Knowledge. Check out Hosea 4:6 and Hosea 6:6. Knowledge of What? Answer: The Way of God. Check out Psalm 119.

In reference to Jeremiah 17:5 and 17:7 my Trust, my confidence is not in man's States, but in The Word - which is the Thoughts of El Elyon expressed in Voice and Words and Matter. For we see "And God said"; And we read "And God said"; and then the Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us. Emmanuel.

So now I am full circle. Referencing the Vine and the branches - IF you will abide in Me, I will abide in you. I am merely a willing vessel who places his trust in The Word which is the Perfect Image of El Elyon and in doing so I am slowly being transformed from glory into Glory into the Image of the Living God.

What does the living have to do with the dead? Answer: Nothing.

The Secret Place of El Elyon encompasses the shadow of El Shaddai - which is to say I take my Shade from El Shaddai BECAUSE I trust in Yehovah the Savior. Yehoshuah is my King, my Judge, my Savior, my High Priest, my Redeemer.

And one quick tangent: Ever wonder why Yehoshuah is the High Priest?

Certainly the Law cannot Save; however it is HIGH time to move on pass that baby milk.

However in regard to our future estate in Heaven, if you choose to be one of those who teaches the law is done away with then your estate will be very minimal; however if you are one who teaches the law as good and a pleasure to abide in, then your estate will be HUGE.

This is simple, if the law is done away with as the clowns preach, then why do we need a high priest? And furthermore, for what cause is there a need for judgment? The High Priest is tasked to apply the blood for redemption. Yehoshuah, therefore abides as our High Priest unto God applying the blood of His own sacrifice upon the Heavenly Alter for propitiation of our sins. If the Law is no more then sin cannot be accounted for because there is no law to recognize that sin.

For instance if a stop sign is erected and I run the sign, but there is no law to require one to stop, then there cannot be judgment regarding its uses. However, if there is a law to stop, and I run the sign, then I am guilty and in need of redemption and subject to judgment. In the Heavenly Realm we need to be faithful and just to CONFESS OUR SINS - I said CONFESS OUR SINS - because there STILL abides a Law - and Yehoshuah is faithful and just to FORGIVE OUR SINS - by the applying of His own blood upon the Mercy Seat - Alter of God.

The Law cannot save is exactly right BECAUSE each and every one of us has broken it - as such - we are ALL guilty and in need of redemption! But our infirmities in no way reduces the Law - it however UPLIFTS the Power of the Law. Is the Law bad? NO WAY - the Law is good - and if we keep it - or at a minimum try to keep it - then life would be so much easier for us.

Don't be one of the clowns that teaches the Law is no more. I mean Jesus Christ did not come to do away with His own Law - He came to show us HOW to keep it!

It is the ignorance of the Greek and for that matter the fact that the "so called" Christian Church refuses to read Torah and the Prophets, that has caused thousands of years of error. And the so called Jews cannot "see" Jesus Christ BECAUSE the Jesus they hear about has done away with the Law and they know that is impossible. So isn't it high time the Christians start reading the front of the book and the Jews the latter? The Christians trip over the Word of God = Christ, as the Word expressed in Law/Prophets; and the Jews trip over the Spirit for they cannot see Christ due to the fact that ignorance has taught the Law is no more.

I mean just look at Moses - who saw God face to face - Moses did not keep but one TINY aspect of what he was commanded and this very minor offense was enough to keep him from the promised land. Consider how much more if we speak with our mouth and express with our deeds the expression that God's Law is no more! This is downright blasphemy and it is a direct assault on the Sovereignty of Christ. The Law is the Heart of God [Lamed Beth]. Check out the First letter in Genesis [Beth]. check out the Last letter in Deuteronomy [Lamed]. Torah is the HEART of God.

I would ask but one question: If God did not provide for Salvation, would you still serve Him?

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The One who sacrificed his Flesh IS THE LAW. Yehoshuah IS "The Word of God". We are not made in His image we are "transformed" into His image by REGENERATION of the MIND.

Col 3:10 And having put on [like a garment] the new [regenerated] man, which is renewed in knowledge after the pattern of Him That created him:

El Elyon is the Invisible God, Yehoshuah is the IMAGE of the Invisible God - If you have seen the Son [office] you have seen the Father. Therefore we are Regenerated and Renewed in Christ from glory into Glory. And we are brought back to El Elyon in Christ who is our High Priest. Therefore it is good for man to keep the Law - which is to say - we are the BRIDE [singular] in corporate unity - submitting in Trust - our lives - unto His Will, His Desires, His Law. Therefore there is nothing left for us in terms of our own ideas of how we should worship and love Him. For He said "IF you love me you will keep my commandments" and in another place....

1Jn_3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Therefore SIN is willful disobedience of Torah! And in another place we read "Lo I come in the VOLUME of the Book". For there comes One whose vesture will be dipped or dyed in blood whose name is "The Word of God". We cannot worship how we choose - Aaron found this out when he submitted to making a golden calf. Notice they still worshiped Yehovah but in a way THEY choose. But we read worship me in Spirit and in Truth. This means that the Body is not necessary for worship - and also Knowledge is necessary for true worship.

Where is knowledge found? Torah and Prophets! So let us say the Express Image of El Elyon IS The Word of El Elyon. And "The Word" became Flesh and dwelt amongst us! Now it is The Word or Yehoshuah who taught us and showed us HOW to live a righteous life, pleasing to El Elyon. For IN FACT it was Yehoshuah who created us. Yehoshuah is our Father. Yehoshuah gave the ten commandments and all of the other laws to Israel.

For now it is time that Adam and Eve come back together into one Man. Or you might say Judah and Israel. Or your might say the Spirit and the Soul. For she can be a harlot [mind] and she must learn to submit to her husbandman. We are then RENEWED when she SUBMITS and OBEYS and she stops doing what she [your mind] seems good in her own eyes!

Therefore we keep the Royal Law. However Sacrificial and Ceremonial Law are no longer required IN REGARD to the Priesthood of Aaron [Levi]. For we, IN CHRIST, are made members of the Order of Melchizedok and Yehoshuah is the High Priest. Therefore we bring our Sacrifice as we MORTIFY our members [in the flesh] making our flesh subject to the Spirit = The Law of God.


Yehoshuah died so that he might keep the Law of God - Refer to Deut 24:1-3. Else He could not take Israel back to bride - for He gave her a "Bill of Divorcement".

Jer 3:1 They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.

Jer 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Jer 3:20 Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the LORD.

to be continued

[Michael Joseph]

Therefore one who acts with Love FIRST will naturally keep the Law. Therefore that one does not need to know every aspect of the Law; However, in Hosea 6:4 we see that we are called to LEARN the knowledge of God.

Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Hos 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.



Shalom,
MJ

[Michael Joseph]

MJ don't get me wrong here but I don't think the irs cares one bit what religion you been redeemed from unless your going with the requirements for exemption.

I can comprehend what you are saying, but remember we are dealing with men who are occupying within a Trust Boundary. They are merely the Cestui Que Use demanding upon the Trustee an accounting. This goes to the HEART of the matter. Those who overcome as I overcame shall inherit ALL things. The KEY is in Things. Furthermore, I am comforted by the maker of the Heavens and the Earth that I have power over the enemy in the GREAT and AWESOME name of Yehoshuah.

I have seen the mountain thrown into the sea - with my own eyes - it can only be done with FAITH. For Faith is the TITLE DEED, it is the EVIDENCE of Trust.

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye present yourselves servants for obedience, ye are servants to him whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

My Trust is IMPLIED in my DEEDS. For nowhere in the Scripture is man granted the dominion over other men! Man MUST consent to be governed! Therefore my Claim is in Yehoshuah, I, like Abraham seek a Commonwealth not made with the minds of man - For haven't you figured it out yet- this is ALL in your MIND.

Shalom,
MJ

[Chex]

My Trust is IMPLIED in my DEEDS. For nowhere in the Scripture is man granted the dominion over other men! Man MUST consent to be governed! Therefore my Claim is in Yehoshuah.

Absolutely.