Exactly what does the IRS agent think?

[David Merrill]

Hi David,

Okay, I'm a 'noob' here and maybe this topic has been vetted and fully researched...however, I've searched the above documents in your post and found a reference in the last one to a US v. Rickman case where it states:

"United States v. Rickman, 638 F.2d 182, 184 (10th Cir. 1980) - The court affirmed the conviction for willfully failing to file a return and rejected the taxpayer's argument "the Federal Reserve Notes in which he was paid were not lawful money within the meaning of Art. 1, Sub Section 8, United States Constitution."..."

Please comment and help me to understand the context. Thnx.

Hbert

Gary RICKMAN was obviously not demanding redemption of lawful money. Two case decisions should be considered when understanding the demand.

In the exercise of that power Congress has declared that Federal Reserve Notes are legal tender and are redeemable in lawful money.

and

United States notes shall be lawful money, and a legal tender in payment of all debts, public and private, within the United States, except for duties on imports and interest on the public debt.

Good Catch!!

I appreciate that. The first thing to know is that Congress has the power to define money. They define it for the States to be metal coin too. Ergo - In the exercise of that power... The Court has the authority to interpret and quite clearly, federal reserve notes are redeemable in lawful money, but are not necessarily lawful money.

There is a lot to be said on that but it is off topic here. What we are looking at is the instructions that an IRS agent gets and I had not noticed the January 1, rendition until yesterday while searching around. So thanks for looking for me - saved me a little reading.

You can get a look for yourselves though. I have attached Rickman in full.

Putting that into the recent rendition of Frivolous Notices tells me that the IRS has been watching SJC and minding Shoonra and my debates over the interpretation of Rickman and Ware. Primarily though Gary RICKMAN did not make demands with his paychecks so he was not applying remedy as prescribed in the Fed Act.


Regards,

David Merrill.


P.S. Motla68;

The common thread is that the IRS agents get training through notices. Those are the Notices about the Frivolous Filing Penalty - guidelines on when the IRS agent is to attach the fine. I will arrange them chronologically and note some details.

[motla68]

Required Reading. His boss tells him what he has to read, to train him about the guidelines about when to issue a warning or $5K penalty for a frivolous filing.

I invite even the most skeptical readers to find a directive about redeeming lawful money as framed in the Fed Act and Title 12.

http://www.irs.gov/taxexemptbond/20k...134362,00.html - notices

http://www.irs.treas.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-10-33.pdf

http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/3498/frivolouspositionsmemor.pdf

Notice 2010-33

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=168637,00.html

Notice 2007-61

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-07-30.pdf

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3498/frivolouspositionsmemor.pdf

Notice 2007-30

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-08-14.pdf

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3498/frivolouspositionsmemor.pdf

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-ccdm/cc-2011-004.pdf

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/friv_tax.pdf

To save time I suggest keywords to search:

lawful
redeem
redemption
Title 12
411

David, there is a lot of links here to different resources, can you please put a side note to these links to point out the specific areas that are related to your post?
Not that I am a statutory employee required to file for the name though.

Thank you.

[Hbert997]

Hi David,

Okay, I'm a 'noob' here and maybe this topic has been vetted and fully researched...however, I've searched the above documents in your post and found a reference in the last one to a US v. Rickman case where it states:

"United States v. Rickman, 638 F.2d 182, 184 (10th Cir. 1980) - The court affirmed the conviction for willfully failing to file a return and rejected the taxpayer's argument "the Federal Reserve Notes in which he was paid were not lawful money within the meaning of Art. 1, Sub Section 8, United States Constitution."..."

Please comment and help me to understand the context. Thnx.

Hbert

[David Merrill]

I have been updating this opening post so all the major memorandums, notices and updates might be here.Required Reading. His boss tells him what he has to read, to train him about the guidelines about when to issue a warning or $5K penalty for a frivolous filing.

I invite even the most skeptical readers to find a directive about redeeming lawful money as framed in the Fed Act and Title 12.

https://books.google.com/books?id=AM...otices&f=false - CFR Frivolous notices

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-news/ir-05-064.pdf

Notice 2007-61

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-07-30.pdf

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3498/frivolouspositionsmemor.pdf

Notice 2007-30

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-08-14.pdf

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3498/frivolouspositionsmemor.pdf

Notice 2008-14

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-irbs/irb10-17.pdf

Notice 2010-33 is inside this pdf:

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-irbs/irb10-17.pdf

Notice 2011-004


To save time I suggest keywords to search:


lawful
redeem
redemption
Title 12
411