Exactly what does the IRS agent think?

[David Merrill]

Doing some research for a suitor, I found this citation.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p2105.pdf

[David Merrill]

About a week after filing the Certificate Ron was at the bank's drivethru and got the message he had to come inside. He thought that the little funds he had were again, swept on the same seizure. He got inside to hear the wonderful news that his entire life's savings had been fully restored!

He called me up to celebrate and share that they only had one hitch - they wanted him to sign a Waiver of Indemnity that meant he could not sue US Bank for the damages they had caused him. We got a laugh out of that and US Bank instead wrote letters of apology to any and all people who had received rubber checks because of the seizure.

[David Merrill]

Thanks stone! Your other thread clued me to that bill. I actually drafted a letter to RP the other night. Curious to see if i'll get a response. Need to mail it today.

Give us some SAS! (Sanitize and Share).

Note I founded this bond on one of Ronald Earnest PAUL's many failed attempts to move without constitutency:

https://www.ecclesia.org/forum/image...Statement1.gif https://www.ecclesia.org/forum/image...Statement2.gif
https://www.ecclesia.org/forum/image...Statement3.gif https://www.ecclesia.org/forum/image...Statement4.gif

https://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/Statement5.gif

https://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/affidavitofservice.gif

https://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/Warrant1.gif

https://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/Warrant2.gif

https://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/1-HR3812.jpg

https://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/2-HR3812.jpg

https://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/3-HR3812.jpg

https://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/4-HR3812.jpg

BTW:

Instead of paying the bond, or having the US arrested they gave Ronald Dean back his money.

[Brian]

I already did here:
http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showt...cy-Act-of-2011

Thanks stone! Your other thread clued me to that bill. I actually drafted a letter to RP the other night. Curious to see if i'll get a response. Need to mail it today.

[David Merrill]

Thank you for the links. I am really quite happy that StSC is growing and busy so that I cannot even keep up. The content, like that link though - icing on the cake!

I already did here:

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?202-H.R.-1098-Free-Competition-in-Currency-Act-of-2011

[David Merrill]

More like; Thank You Brian!

That is very enlightening.

The warning I always give with Pete's CtC though is that without remedy written in the law, he leaves people hoping to argue certain interpretations of the IR Code. Fatal!


P.S. Please link us to PAUL's new bill.

[Richard Earl]

thank you David & Brian!

[Brian]

I'm still having trouble though. I notice that citizens were paying income taxes well before 1933.

"In order to help pay for its war effort in the American Civil War, the United States government imposed its first personal income tax, on August 5, 1861, as part of the Revenue Act of 1861 (3% of all incomes over US $800)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax#United_States

I'm trying to figure out the logic behind the redemption as per 12 USC 411 and the 16th Amendment to the US Constitution:


Although I think the Amendment was made in 1913 (first 20 year charter?)

Pages 12-17 might yield some historical context to your questions. Good book...but incomplete.

http://losthorizons.com/CtCforFree.pdf

Note the time frame where the overall trend turns up. Hmmm

http://www.taxhistory.com/graphs/14a.html

Here is my understanding of this. Pollock was about the direct taxation of "income" from government sponsored bonds, notes, funds, etc that were personally owned "real property" by the people involved in the suit. The SCOTUS ruled it unconstitutional. The 16th amendment was designed to overturn this ruling and allow the Gov to direct tax "income" aka gain or profit from Gov sponsored entities/privileged activities. It was also sold as an amendment to tax the rich. Brushaber essentially confirmed this saying the 16th conferred no NEW taxing power but returned the Pollock issue back to an excise, or a tax on an activity or privilege.

So now turning to Title12/411. Congress gave the FED an enormous privilege to create private credit with CONgresses blessing. A massive coup occurred that no one realized. Most people's revenue back then was way less then the exemptions aka no filing. There were also many other alternative flavors of money in competition with the FRN. The Fed managed to drive the competing forms of money out of existence and inflate the common person's revenue up into the taxing range (greater then the exemption level). Add the depression and WW2 into the mix (victory tax/withholding) and we are left where we are today.

However that one section 411 leaves a choice. It has too or this whole system WOULD be unconstitutional. They had to leave one very narrow path with a cliff on one side and an abyss on the other. The statutory language regarding issuance USN's is still in effect. The treasury says that a FRN can perform as either. It all boils down to the nature of the money. Private or Public?

One more thing: Ron Paul's new bill has this section in it.
(2) no State may assess any tax or fee on any currency, or any other monetary instrument, which is used in the transaction of interstate commerce or commerce with a foreign country, and which is subject to the enjoyment of legal tender status under article I, section 10 of the United States Constitution.

Why put that there if there is not already something to that effect in action now?

[David Merrill]

binding law upon the IRS, and any other United States claiming entity, to accept and recognize the non-taxable nature of lawful money of exchange.

Let me repeat... ZERO MENTION OF THIS EXERCISE OF TRUE REMEDY ANYWHERE ON THEIR "WARNING" POSTING.

I would like to thank David Merrill, again, for being God's "conduit of truth" for those who truly seek it out. I am not aware of anyone else who openly and freely teaches this specific remedy to more people than him and for as long as he has been doing it. I for one am grateful.

That is some high praise indeed! - A servant of the Most High...

That sure explains the consistency! Thanks AJ, for honorable mention. I recall one moonless summer night I was playing around with night vision and was going through a pitch black field. Passing some bushes I found a rolled up carpet with feet protruding from the end. I approached figuring I had discovered a discarded body. After closer study though if found breathing. The drunken fellow apparently had rolled himself up in the carpet and then fell down in it for a nap. I was heading for the grocery anyway so I prepared a bag of snacks and $20 with some cheap sandals too and dropped them off to him on the way back. I woke him and gave him the charity bag. He said, God bless you.

I walked away thinking that the highest treasure ever! It seems a little silly now. But for my charity, I received a genuine blessing from the Creator of the entire Universe! [The next time I walked by I found an empty bottle of vodka... hmm.]

I'm still having trouble though. I notice that citizens were paying income taxes well before 1933.

"In order to help pay for its war effort in the American Civil War, the United States government imposed its first personal income tax, on August 5, 1861, as part of the Revenue Act of 1861 (3% of all incomes over US $800)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax#United_States

I'm trying to figure out the logic behind the redemption as per 12 USC 411 and the 16th Amendment to the US Constitution:


Although I think the Amendment was made in 1913 (first 20 year charter?)

That is an interesting observation. I recall mention of this earlier, in the article I produced the first video about.

In 'Pollock v. Farmer's Loan & Trust Co.' 158 U.S. 601 (1895) the Supreme Court had declared the income tax of 1894 to be repugnant to the Constitution...

The fiat currency began around 1863 and there is some history of fractional lending (reserve banking) beginning in Canada at that time with Crown Dominion Notes. I believe that was shock testing in preparation for the same dishonest (elastic) currency practices here in America.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[Richard Earl]

I'm still having trouble though. I notice that citizens were paying income taxes well before 1933.

"In order to help pay for its war effort in the American Civil War, the United States government imposed its first personal income tax, on August 5, 1861, as part of the Revenue Act of 1861 (3% of all incomes over US $800)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax#United_States

I'm trying to figure out the logic behind the redemption as per 12 USC 411 and the 16th Amendment to the US Constitution:

Amendment XVI
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Although I think the Amendment was made in 1913 (first 20 year charter?)

binding law upon the IRS, and any other United States claiming entity, to accept and recognize the non-taxable nature of lawful money of exchange.

Let me repeat... ZERO MENTION OF THIS EXERCISE OF TRUE REMEDY ANYWHERE ON THEIR "WARNING" POSTING.

I would like to thank David Merrill, again, for being God's "conduit of truth" for those who truly seek it out. I am not aware of anyone else who openly and freely teaches this specific remedy to more people than him and for as long as he has been doing it. I for one am grateful.

[David Merrill]

Thank you fB.

[Frederick Burrell]

Great stuff David, thanks for posting it. KISS. fB

[David Merrill]

Here is an interesting addition to our compendium of IRS Agent thought:

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=238262,00.html