Exactly what does the IRS agent think?

[EZrhythm]

Interesting report from the IRS-

TREASURY INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR TAX ADMINISTRATION

Actions Are Needed to Better Identify
and Address Individuals Who File
Tax Returns Using Frivolous Arguments

August 31, 2016

https://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2016reports/201640069fr.pdf

Of course "redeeming lawful money" is not included as there is no "frivolidity" in the position or method but it may be interesting to some anyway.

[Christopher Thomas]

Not fully understanding... Respected though. I didn't intend to offend anyone. Much appreciated.

[David Merrill]

I listened to a few seconds.

[Christopher Thomas]

Absolutely.Thank you. it's funny that after this was posted and I was re-searching for the blank replica (without suitors recording info) and it came right up...

This link....https://youtu.be/5SkTT8rNx_I has been in the process of being passed around...unsure of reliability...interested in some factual proof of reliability if someone may know themselves.

I find it interesting...it speaks of redemption and SDR's however the denial of redemption...apparently recently being set in place...maybe a connection with above situation...

I will print the above and record in accordance with my indenture...as for her (who is experiencing this absurdity) if she wishes and once again properly assertively establish her Demand...when an action against a trustee's rights in the duties of administration occurs..a art.iii 3rd party claim should be administered for such deprivation...or am I still confusing theory and fact?

[David Merrill]

Anyhow, I've been looking for the [Colorado issued] reproduction of 12 usc 411...I can't seem to remember the thread...

I believe that you might be speaking of the page from the US Code that a suitor published at the El Paso county Clerk and Recorder.

Interestingly the failure to properly cure the land into a Territory in 1861 equates to the US stealing the Territory - as the War Chest I have been referring to. Territorial Governor GILPIN issued the first notes to fund paying Union soldiers in Colorado. So you might be on to something by insisting on this particular rendition.

[Christopher Thomas]

I'm wondering about this financial institution AMSCOT dba FRB will not accept there own [properly endorsed] money order...?

I tried to inform the gentlemen any one of the people have right to their own endorsement....

As Michael Joseph emphasises that it is transaction based...

Anyhow, I've been looking for the [Colorado issued] reproduction of 12 usc 411...I can't seem to remember the thread...

[David Merrill]

I felt a twinge of anxiety until about halfway down the post. No big thing. I enjoyed it.

[lorne]

Sorry about the panic. The omission is really a Wow! thing. I mean folks have been redeeming lawful money for what? about 10 years now publicly, using it to avoid income taxes and the IRS has never addressed it. There's NOTHING in the frivolous list. This is great news!

If this was a crazy patriot nutjob theory, the IRS would have included it by now in their Friv List. It's easy; I just wrote it for them as Argument 51. The fact it's missing reveals the argument is NOT frivolous. It's the truth.

Over at Lost Horizons we had a Glaring Omission thread about just this topic. It grew to be the longest thread in the history of the forum.

[doug555]

Hi Lorne;

Nice spoof! The Arguments stop at #50. I am probably the only fellow to feel a panic attack coming on... Maybe I should have a nap?

Nope... he got me too David!!!

But, actually, IMO, that exact statement and position would truly be a frivolous one... BECAUSE all transactions are initially paid in FRNs, the default currency in the USA.

USNs only appear AFTER the 12 USC 411 demand is applied by the Trustees when they are given opportunity to REDEEM their associated FRNs "dollar for dollar" in accord with the HJR 192 Resolution Trust established by the Intent of Congress on June 5, 1933.

FRNs are "redeemed", NOT "precluded" upon demand!

[David Merrill]

You had me going...

It's argument #51. Surprised you missed it.


Redeemed Lawful Money Is Not Taxable

The individual argues that his or her income can be non taxable because they were paid in U.S. notes (lawful money). NOTE: This is true. However this is generally unknown and omitted from the IRS frivolous list. Please don't tell the public as they might discover they've been victims of an elaborate scam.

Hi Lorne;

Nice spoof! The Arguments stop at #50. I am probably the only fellow to feel a panic attack coming on... Maybe I should have a nap?

[lorne]

It's argument #51. Surprised you missed it.


Redeemed Lawful Money Is Not Taxable

The individual argues that his or her income can be non taxable because they were paid in U.S. notes (lawful money). NOTE: This is true. However this is generally unknown and omitted from the IRS frivolous list. Please don't tell the public as they might discover they've been victims of an elaborate scam.

[doug555]

BUMPING - for the latest and greatest!!! A suitor just emailed an article to me...





Let's see how they "legally" integrate redeeming lawful money, shall we?


P.S. Wow! I just looked through quickly for "lawful", "money", "411" and "redeem..." - NOTHING! Amazing! They still have the ZERO INCOME Return item but no new details. Please get back to us after you give it a thorough reading through.

I just searched within the PDF itself with 2 different PDF Readers... and NO HITS!

See Thread #161 for a good example of a 1040 LM Return and Refund using "TaxAct" program.

[David Merrill]

Frivolous Tax Memorandum 2016

BUMPING - for the latest and greatest!!! A suitor just emailed an article to me...

TREASURY INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR TAX ADMINISTRATION

Office of Audit

Actions Are Needed to Better Identify and Address Individuals Who File Tax Returns Using Frivolous Arguments
Final Report Issued on August 31, 2016

Highlights

Highlights of Reference Number: 2016-40-069 to the Internal Revenue Service Commissioner for the Wage and Investment Division.

IMPACT ON TAXPAYERS

Individuals or businesses who oppose the Federal tax laws may use a frivolous tax argument to enrich themselves or evade paying tax. Generally, a frivolous tax argument is based on a frivolous or incorrect interpretation of the Federal tax laws. Individuals and businesses use these incorrect interpretations to support their claims that they are not subject to Federal tax laws.

WHY TIGTA DID THE AUDIT

WHAT TIGTA FOUND

WHAT TIGTA RECOMMENDED

READ THE FULL REPORT

To view the report, including the scope, methodology, and full IRS response, go to:
http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditr...01640069fr.pdf.

Let's see how they "legally" integrate redeeming lawful money, shall we?


P.S. Wow! I just looked through quickly for "lawful", "money", "411" and "redeem..." - NOTHING! Amazing! They still have the ZERO INCOME Return item but no new details. Please get back to us after you give it a thorough reading through.

[David Merrill]

After a while it becomes second nature to create a record. Keep your health.


The Quatludes just don't do it for me anymore. I got some pearls there, because of the high attorney posts, but they just grew so far and few between...

[Christopher Thomas]

I learned something today.

David Merril, First thanks for the welcome...I also saw those post(s) from "Quataloosers" ha ha ha...Ignorance will be Man's downfall...literally...

Allodial, Thanks for the info. I did download the "Gimp2" program..not to savvy with this yet and seem to have some difficulties with saving...I'm ocd with my recordkeeping..anyhow, once figured out..I will upload..My usual schedule on payday is 1.get the cheque 2.Stamp and scan (just got a portable scanner saves going back and forth from home to arronds) 3. cash, Stamp and Scan the private credit in proper.

Now, I tried to respond a few days ago and typed everything which i am about to now and it didn't upload plus lost the response..Remedy: Copy before posting lol.. anyway...

On the I-9 form I feel I made mistakes..for the name under "family" I put "FARLEY, Estate" and my given name for the rest however correlating to the Estate...I put the SSN attached to the Estate and U.S. citizen and the birth date. for the signature.."By: LS (signature)" however forgot to space given and family.. On the W-4 I put the Estate...and "Exempt" in "7" (I first put my demand in that space there accountant sent it back and said just put "Exempt", so I signed it the way (above) detached it from the dotted lines...the Signature was: "Redeemed Lawful Money...Pursuant to 12 usc 411...(signature) By: LS

My first check, I redeemed lawful money on the back..first ending with my signature and thumb print...second, just redeemed lawful money..pursuant to 12 usc 411...same for third...this last one, I went in and I now have a custom stamp the gentlemen asked me to sign under the stamp..I noticed he put his Deposit stamp above mine..I sealed the signature..however worried since I did not scan the changed document..next time will just take my cheque back scan it then do it..

I also, did a warrant claim on the filing # of the COLB...so the Estate and it's title become one..since it is no longer abandoned...it has a new location..I asked to pay for the registered mail with ordinary stamps...rookie says (honestly, started that week) I MUST use Metered Strip for registered mail...I knew better..I also knew that as Trustee by special deposit I am able to refuse claim of mail...so I asked proper questions and still proceeded and spoke to the supervisor (she called about two days after I made the claim) and wanted to ensure this dont happen again to me or anyone else utilizing the mail process...I went to claim the mail piece and refused it as it is in conflict..the metered strip I feel is an account which uses private credit...so it would conflict with the bonding of title with lawful money...plus morally wrong as we are to For-give...

Today, going to the Comptroller's office to record my Solemn Act...my printer is not printing in blue and is 80% full..frustrating but patient..may have to go and get color print..

I watch "Last week tonight" by John Oliver...he had an episode where he "forgave" medical debt of about 15m...was curious about contacting bureau of public debt..and doing something similiar...

About True, Correct Reproduction of documents...if there is say (4) pages does each individual need to be sealed? or is the front sufficient?

I feel like i'm forgetting to share something...If remember, will post.