Birth Certificate - What it is

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  • walter
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 662

    #241
    Originally posted by xparte View Post
    please explain how a bond might help as the attorneys never bond a case they have the chequebook a certified bounce vs a performance bond
    set-off the private side,
    public must follow,
    no record because no fiat bail was needed,

    the gov created and owns the BC name,
    the gov is liable for it,
    the gov has an insurance plan to take care of any trouble of that name if no one stands as surety for it,
    social insurance,
    they even gave the BC name holder an account number,

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    • Chex
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 1032

      #242
      From what I understood years back the gov puts a life insurance policy on every soldier, never seen proof of it just heard about it.
      "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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      • walter
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 662

        #243
        Originally posted by Chex View Post
        From what I understood years back the gov puts a life insurance policy on every soldier, never seen proof of it just heard about it.
        Its called:
        "Dead Peasant Life Insurance Policies"
        check it out,

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        • allodial
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 2866

          #244
          Originally posted by Chex View Post
          From what I understood years back the gov puts a life insurance policy on every soldier, never seen proof of it just heard about it.
          Bottomry? Property insurance?
          All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

          "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
          "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
          Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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          • xparte
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2014
            • 742

            #245
            For only me is suggesting the court has lost jurisdiction over any Man [ME] who leaves a court and has not answered to the NAME . That ends that trial to establish surety for that NAME Warrant is issued for NAME or A NEW BENEFIT WARRANT IS OFFERED and ORDERED FROM THE CLERK.The trial has found the NAMED PERSON IN THIS CASE guilty or gullible for said charges? JURISDICTION OVER A PERSON can be lost if NO person answers to that NAME . Jurisdiction over CHARGES or THAT CASE are never lost .A Man is never found GUILTY only a Person. MR XPARTE WE FOUND YOU GUILTY great now leave me alone SORRY cant sentence a PERSON we need a body to APPEAR or a Man giving that appearance so COURT reclaims our lost jurisdiction we prefer a warrant to get a Man,s promise to re appear as that Person . Any lost jurisdiction can be regained with a NEW offer. If traffic court is cancelled for any reason or it did,nt convene or sit on a PERSONS date a loss over jurisdiction for that person can be found with a new summons if the Man takes the bait . The bait is on paper the survey is on paper is the NAMED on paper My only remedy and theirs too is on paper challenged ego and court incompetence are the bait . Aiding ones abatement is never the Egotistical or Metaphysical challenge only a Man demands alleviation; mitigation. suppression or termination: abatement of a person . The site is a conscience it has everything a conciliatory message and offer should be . A commercial thought has to wait till the bank opens for security and surety purposes only .Finding the truth is securing the trust .Dead and loving it i trust knot Stockholm systematics or home town decedents syndrome. Get captivated send a message to the conscience public or private side.[ The suitors mailbx hydrometry ] finding confidence in a word is the Magic in its bewitchment and the casting of its spell or the spelling of persons, and how a word becomes a case Named,or NAMED in COURTS lacking class but a cohesive stylishness get the memo or owe the note.

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            • walter
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 662

              #246

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              • allodial
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 2866

                #247
                Possession of it might amount to a license but the certificate itself is more than likely merely evidence of something.
                All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

                "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                • walter
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 662

                  #248
                  Originally posted by allodial View Post
                  Possession of it might amount to a license but the certificate itself is more than likely merely evidence of something.

                  Its the registration of a legal entity name.
                  Granting an entitlement to use it.
                  law defines ENTITLED as licensed,

                  Change of Name Act R.S.O. 1990, CHAPTER C.7 Historical version for the period July 3, 2007 to May 13, 2009. Last amendment: 2006, c. 34, s. 5....


                  entitled entitled entitled to be recognized by that name unless the person subsequently changed that name under this Act or a predecessor of it. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.7, s. 2 (1).



                  now in...

                  2 (b) a person whose birth is not registered in Ontario is entitled to be recognized by,
                  (ii) in all other cases, the name recognized in law in the last place with which the person had a real and substantial connection before residing in Ontario,

                  they have to be referring to only one thing here.
                  the true name on the statement of live birth.
                  its the only paper document before the reside.

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                  • BLBereans
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 275

                    #249
                    It is evidence that the holder of the "CERTIFICATE" is not the holder of the original; said "CERTIFICATE" is only a certified copy. Furthermore, one cannot claim title of the named entity on said "CERTIFICATE" if one does not hold, and cannot obtain (without permission), the original document.

                    Ergo, if one does not hold title to the named entity on a "CERTIFICATE", one does not hold title to ANYTHING in said name.

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                    • Michael Joseph
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1596

                      #250
                      Originally posted by allodial View Post
                      Possession of it might amount to a license but the certificate itself is more than likely merely evidence of something.
                      I think that US v THOMAS is a key to comprehending the nature of that certificate. It says that FRN's are understood by the RESERVES of the bank of the United States. And since it is written into law that one can make a demand upon that bank in accord with 12USC411, it stands to reason that the certificate is evidence of an interest. Consider how would it be possible for one who is without an interest to make a demand upon an uninterested party? That would be a trespass of the worst kind.

                      Said another way to claim a right in a contract of which one is not a signatory [subscriber] is a vile trespass.

                      I agree with BLBereans. FDR established the trust accounts thusly the creator/settlor has the administration and perhaps both the legal and equitable titles to the account; however, a use might be granted whereof we as grantors in faith are given access to the bank as consideration; and, thusly I model the BC as an access easement into law so as not to trespass. Otherwise, I am unable to accept any right of which I am not a party to the original contract.
                      Last edited by Michael Joseph; 12-04-15, 12:08 AM.
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                      • BLBereans
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 275

                        #251
                        Originally posted by Michael Joseph View Post
                        I think that US v THOMAS is a key to comprehending the nature of that certificate. It says that FRN's are understood by the RESERVES of the bank of the United States. And since it is written into law that one can make a demand upon that bank in accord with 12USC411, it stands to reason that the certificate is evidence of an interest. Consider how would it be possible for one who is without an interest to make a demand upon an uninterested party? That would be a trespass of the worst kind.

                        Said another way to claim a right in a contract of which one is not a signatory [subscriber] is a vile trespass.

                        I agree with BLBereans. FDR established the trust accounts thusly the creator/settlor has the administration and perhaps both the legal and equitable titles to the account; however, a use might be granted whereof we as grantors in faith are given access to the bank as consideration; and, thusly I model the BC as an access easement into law so as not to trespass. Otherwise, I am unable to accept any right of which I am not a party to the original contract.
                        The "access easement", as you aptly put it, is contingent upon whether or not one agrees to relinquish claim to title of the "use of the fruits" in the titled NAME. In other words, if there is just a slight possibility that the man will "come and claim" title, in the LEGAL sense, then it is presumed that said man does NOT render unto the STATE that which belongs to the STATE and that said man does NOT trust FULLY in God as his source of ALL things.

                        Anyone who lays claim to the "riches", "treasures" and "wealth" of the world is considered an ENEMY of the STATE and will be treated as such in ALL claims and controversies in said NAME.

                        After all, what man, who claims Jesus the Christ as his Lord and Savior, could care the least about securing LEGAL title to anything in the DEAD realm?

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                        • walter
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 662

                          #252
                          Originally posted by BLBereans View Post
                          It is evidence that the holder of the "CERTIFICATE" is not the holder of the original; said "CERTIFICATE" is only a certified copy. Furthermore, one cannot claim title of the named entity on said "CERTIFICATE" if one does not hold, and cannot obtain (without permission), the original document.

                          Ergo, if one does not hold title to the named entity on a "CERTIFICATE", one does not hold title to ANYTHING in said name.
                          Birth Certificates are all originals.
                          The Statement of live birth is a certified copy.

                          This is interesting.
                          Law of agency

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                          • BLBereans
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 275

                            #253
                            Originally posted by walter View Post
                            Birth Certificates are all originals.
                            The Statement of live birth is a certified copy.

                            This is interesting.
                            Law of agency
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_agency
                            Sorry to say you are mistaken; a "CERTIFICATE" is a certified copy.

                            "In a more particular sense, the written declaration, under the hand or seal or both, of some public officer, to be used as evidence in a court, or to substantiate a fact. A certificate of this kind may be considered as given under the oath of office."

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                            Last edited by BLBereans; 12-04-15, 01:57 AM.

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                            • Michael Joseph
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1596

                              #254
                              Originally posted by BLBereans View Post
                              After all, what man, who claims Jesus the Christ as his Lord and Savior, could care the least about securing LEGAL title to anything in the DEAD realm?
                              Very well said. For consider at once that any estate established must at once be conditioned upon a claim. It is this claim upon which the estate is eventually established as property rights are doled out to the kings of this world and within the realms the kings establish estates. Therefore one must beg the question upon which TESTAMENTARY TRUST was the original estate founded. And since it was a testamentary trust the original claimant is long dead. And as such men and women are undertaking in offices for a dead man's estate.

                              There is, as such, a false shepherd. And he holds two swords - one temporal and one spiritual. The temporal sword has been granted to the kings and princes but only under the watchful eye of the spiritual power. For the spiritual man is judged by no man.

                              I am reminded of a recent writing I issued just this week:

                              Priestcraft : Re-LEGION. "For we are many" - remember the Gadarene tale of the LEGION cast forth from the boy? The "demons"- so called - were cast into the swine. Until we read "don't cast your pearls before swine". Consider that this Re-LEGION was the dissemination of HOG SLOP to the gentiles - who readily eat such. Now before we get too caught up in the physical or literal - the Hog Slop is "food for the mind". We call that religion. For religion is NOT The Way spoken of in Psalms 119.

                              Psa 119:1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.

                              What happened to those "swine"? They ran into the "SEA" and killed themselves! Can you say ADMIRALTY LAW. Where "in rem" vessels of death operate upon the Roman Law. Where piracy is okay and a man can be diseized of his estate by force.

                              And remember what did LEGION have to say to the one who is The Way - "Jesus thou son of David, what hast thou do to with us?" Religion has little or nothing to do with The Way.

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                              Notice the coin was collected in the Temple. There was no separation of church and state. The identity of the people was in YHVH. Under Sol-om-on [Light-Light-Light] we find that the head of the woman [people] is the man [king] and the head of the man is Yehoshuah [YHVH Saves]. We find today that the man [leadership or mind] does not recognize Christ as the head. Rather they run to and fro to intercourse with other men [men doing unseemly deeds with other men].

                              Those great fishes that peter caught when he fished out of the right were tremendous Truths [Heavenly Waters]. Thusly Wisdom and Understanding merged. For Wisdom she is at the Right hand.

                              Babylon is in the desert, the valley, the low places in the earth - the waters of Babylon is carnality or earthly waters of confusion - bbl. Zion is the place in consciousness high on the mountain - the place where Jesus went, Elijah went, Lot went, Abraham went, Adam/Eve lived [see books of Adam and Eve], etc. Thusly the waters of Zion are Heavenly waters.

                              Here is a wonderful song of hope.

                              You can see that the central banking system is a Fiefdom - because all requires a FEE. And the estates are always in Fee. Thusly Gold/Silver represents a Tail Risk to the Fiefdom just as Bernacke said. So within the understanding of the fiefdom gold/silver cannot be money but rather just a commodity/asset of the dead man's estate. In fact in the fiefdom everything is a commodity and must be numbered and named.

                              Notice too that the priests in the Israelite system were also the judges who undertook in office to administrate the law. But notice the story of Eli's corrupt sons.

                              Foreign kings had intercourse with the woman [temple/mind]. Let me see if I can find that one for you in parable..

                              Eze 23:23 The Babylonians, and all the Chaldeans, Pekod, and Shoa, and Koa, and all the Assyrians with them: all of them desirable young men, captains and rulers, great lords and renowned, all of them riding upon horses.

                              Eze 23:24 And they shall come against thee with chariots, wagons, and wheels, and with an assembly of people, which shall set against thee buckler and shield and helmet round about: and I will set judgment before them, and they shall judge thee according to their judgments.

                              St. Paul wrote about a great apostasy and it is unfortunate that folks are actually "looking" for a future event as if this time is paradise. When in fact the book of Acts records the so called "latter days" began some 2k years ago. Joshuah the warrior priest killed 31 kings! Ever ask yourself why 31? St Paul showed why! 31 nerve pairings along the spinal column.

                              Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

                              Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
                              Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.


                              Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
                              Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.


                              The earthly waters [truths] are small fishes but the Heavenly waters [truths] are Great Fishes.

                              Joh_21:11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.

                              1 + 5 + 3 = 9 [higher consciousness]
                              6 + 6 + 6 = 18 ==> 1 + 8 = 9 [base consciousness]

                              Notice that Binah and Chokmah are both feminine! A man plowing with two heifers. ALEPH. They are Understanding and Wisdom.


                              Pro 8:1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?

                              Pro 8:12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
                              Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

                              Bringing this full circle - the gate is the place of judgment and She - Wisdom - speaks of HER GATES - Her posts of Her doors.

                              Pro 8:34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.

                              Minute Mark 4:32 - "I think the reason that people hold gold is a protection against tail-risk" - Ben BERNACKE. Meaning that gold can be traded internationally without the Fiefdom of the central banking survey. BTW some might argue that the Fiefdom is fraud but no so - it is supported by the business plan called constitution at Art 1 - Section 10. If we enter upon a private contract, then no state can pass a law to trespass upon that contract. Thusly if we understand the central banking fiefdom, then the constitution becomes the jailor! And the courts must act in accord with the constitution which means the courts have no other possibility but to become debt collectors for the banker!

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                              A fee tail is passed by inheritance from generation to generation to the heirs of the body of the initial owner. Since no one is an heir of the living, the children of the owner of a fee tail are merely heirs apparent. Such children, therefore, have no transferable interest during their lifetimes.

                              A fee tail can endure until the holder dies without surviving issue, but it cannot be passed on to collateral heirs. A reversion remains in the original owner whenever a fee tail is created. Thus, if a tenant in fee tail dies without heirs, the property reverts back to the original grantor who initially created the fee tail estate.

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                              Read that again and you will soon realize why gold is a Tail Risk. But then again one must also ask who made the original claim. And further, who is therefore the original Grantor - in regard to the [e]States, this would be the Chief Shepherd of the World. Unam Sactum

                              Quoting from Unam Sanctum:

                              "We are informed by the texts of the gospels that in this Church and in its power are two swords; namely, the spiritual and the temporal. For when the Apostles say: 'Behold, here are two swords' [Lk 22:38] that is to say, in the Church, since the Apostles were speaking, the Lord did not reply that there were too many, but sufficient. Certainly the one who denies that the temporal sword is in the power of Peter has not listened well to the word of the Lord commanding: 'Put up thy sword into thy scabbard' [Mt 26:52]. Both, therefore, are in the power of the Church, that is to say, the spiritual and the material sword, but the former is to be administered for the Church but the latter by the Church; the former in the hands of the priest; the latter by the hands of kings and soldiers, but at the will and sufferance of the priest."

                              ----

                              Now then, do you suppose there really exists a separation of church and state or is that a lie told to keep man in a constant estate of duality - torn between two lovers?

                              1Sa 8:19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;
                              1Sa 8:20 That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.


                              Eze 23:29 And they shall deal with thee hatefully, and shall take away all thy labour, and shall leave thee naked and bare: and the nakedness of thy whoredoms shall be discovered, both thy lewdness and thy whoredoms.



                              Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

                              The amazing aspect of the foregoing verse is that folks are actually looking for this to happen!
                              Last edited by Michael Joseph; 12-04-15, 02:10 AM.
                              The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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                              • walter
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 662

                                #255
                                Originally posted by BLBereans View Post
                                Sorry to say you are mistaken; a "CERTIFICATE" is a certified copy.

                                "In a more particular sense, the written declaration, under the hand or seal or both, of some public officer, to be used as evidence in a court, or to substantiate a fact. A certificate of this kind may be considered as given under the oath of office."

                                source
                                I called Vital Statics Office and had a nice chat with them and that info came right out of the horses mouth.

                                All birth certificates are original. They are not a copy of a document on file.

                                Statement of live birth original is being held by them in trust. When you order one you get a copy of a original record.

                                Big , big differences.
                                One who holds the original holds the liability.

                                Call them up and ask them.

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